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Was it Star Fleet Battles (based on the TOS-era license as it existed in like 1975 or whatever) the one that had an entire line of Federation heavy cruisers named after dictators/war criminals/extremely questionable real-life 20th century people, completely unironically? USS Pol Pot, USS Muammar Gaddafi, USS Saddam Hussein, USS Oliver North... USS Donald J. Trump... etc.
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It's interesting to watch TOS season 1 where they're still kind of working out how the universe works and they have like four different names for the Federation and they're not even clear on whether it's a sovereign state or some kind of space UN and there's an implication that Vulcan was conquered by Earth, etc
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Mar 20, 2019 16:05
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TOS is not canon The only canon episode of Star Trek is Carbon Creek
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HD DAD posted:TOS is not canon ftfy
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Drone posted:Was it Star Fleet Battles (based on the TOS-era license as it existed in like 1975 or whatever) the one that had an entire line of Federation heavy cruisers named after dictators/war criminals/extremely questionable real-life 20th century people, completely unironically? USS Pol Pot, USS Muammar Gaddafi, USS Saddam Hussein, USS Oliver North... USS Donald J. Trump... etc. Not sure about those specific names but I did find a USS Robert Mugabe in a Starfleet Battles name registry PDF. Let's see what else I can find... USS Tony Blair? This list is apparently from 2012 so that makes sense but...oh...oh no...  Ohhhhhh no no no no no  Guess we know the timeline divergence point (EDIT: Also they seriously have a ship named after Bashar Al-Assad?)  Here's a link to the PDF. There's bound to be more war criminals and other ne'er do-wells in there considering I saw Khmer Rouge names in there too.
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Angry_Ed posted:Not sure about those specific names but I did find a USS Robert Mugabe in a Starfleet Battles name registry PDF. Let's see what else I can find... USS Tony Blair? This list is apparently from 2012 so that makes sense but...oh...oh no... I like "Presidents Bush" like "eh just name one ship after both of them"
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Mar 20, 2019 16:25
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You can’t name a ship “Presidents Bush”, wtf. Is it two ships? I’m gonna name my ship “USS The Entire Spanish and Austrian Habsburg Dynasties”
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Mar 20, 2019 16:25
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Is there a USS Brexit
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Mar 20, 2019 16:27
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skasion posted:You can’t name a ship “Presidents Bush”, wtf. Is it two ships? I’m gonna name my ship “USS The Entire Spanish and Austrian Habsburg Dynasties” They literally named one ship after Dan Rather and Connie Chung simultaneously as well. EDIT: Obviously it's a ship with either a saucer separation mode or a Multi-Vector Assault Mode 
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Mar 20, 2019 16:28
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Pakled posted:there's an implication that Vulcan was conquered by Earth, etc To this day I never understood why people took that line by McCoy seriously. He's ribbing Spock about Earth being seat of the Federation when Vulcans were the more advanced race. It's like saying it's canon that Spock is a hobgoblin.
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skasion posted:You can’t name a ship “Presidents Bush”, wtf. Is it two ships? I’m gonna name my ship “USS The Entire Spanish and Austrian Habsburg Dynasties” I'm Captain of the USS All the Popes Except the Avignon Papacy
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Mar 20, 2019 16:36
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bull3964 posted:To this day I never understood why people took that line by McCoy seriously. He's ribbing Spock about Earth being seat of the Federation when Vulcans were the more advanced race. I think it's more likely that a season 1 Star Trek writer thought "okay why is this pointy eared alien guy serving on a human ship? Ah, we must be their colonial overlords, look how benevolent we are letting them be officers" because they hadn't worked out how the Federation worked yet and this was a perfectly reasonable thought in 1966.
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Mar 20, 2019 16:40
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USS Concept of the Divine Right of Kings over here
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I mean...McCoy IS kidding, he doesn’t seriously believe that Earth’s supremacy over Vulcan is the result of Vulcans’ aversion to alcohol, but the joke doesn’t really work if you assume that Earth isn’t supreme over Vulcan, which the rest of the franchise even within TOS does kind of contradict. McCoy doesn’t just imply conquest, he says “Now I know why they were conquered”. You can stretch that to mean “they weren’t conquered and McCoy is just sarcastically exaggerating the human-Vulcan relationship” or “they were conquered, but by someone else”, but these are just that—stretches to maintain continuity with material that didn’t exist when the scene was written.
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Angry_Ed posted:Not sure about those specific names but I did find a USS Robert Mugabe in a Starfleet Battles name registry PDF. Let's see what else I can find... USS Tony Blair? This list is apparently from 2012 so that makes sense but...oh...oh no... Was this list generated by Microsoft's Tay bot or something?
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bull3964 posted:To this day I never understood why people took that line by McCoy seriously. He's ribbing Spock about Earth being seat of the Federation when Vulcans were the more advanced race. And Surek is the Green Goblin
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skasion posted:You can’t name a ship “Presidents Bush”, wtf. Is it two ships? I’m gonna name my ship “USS The Entire Spanish and Austrian Habsburg Dynasties”
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Mar 20, 2019 16:55
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The USS Keith Lockhart and the Boston Pops Orchestra EDIT: USS Crosby, Stils, Nash & Young
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USS All Sapient Species That Have Ever Existed (Except the Tellarites, They Know What They Did)
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Mar 20, 2019 16:58
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Ships of the Federation Judge Advoctate General's office: USS United States v. Forty-three Gallons of Whiskey USS United States v. Forty Barrels and Twenty Kegs of Coca-Cola USS The California Coalition of Undressed Performers v. Spearmint Rhino USS United States v. Article Consisting of 50,000 Cardboard Boxes More or Less, Each Containing One Pair of Clacker Balls USS One 1958 Plymouth Sedan v. Pennsylvania USS United States v. 12 200-Foot Reels of Super 8MM Film USS Nebraska v. One 1970 2-Door Sedan Rambler (Gremlin) USS Juicy Whip v. Orange Bang
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Angry_Ed posted:EDIT: Obviously it's a ship with either a saucer separation mode or a Multi-Vector Assault Mode Hahaha But which bit is the W
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skasion posted:I mean...McCoy IS kidding, he doesn’t seriously believe that Earth’s supremacy over Vulcan is the result of Vulcans’ aversion to alcohol, but the joke doesn’t really work if you assume that Earth isn’t supreme over Vulcan Yeah, it does. Alcohol is the lubricant of negotiation and Vulcan never managed to get a bunch of races together to lead a federation while Earth did and Vulcan joined. You can say it's a stretch, but the intent of whoever wrote the line is probably resting in a grave somewhere and even contemporary lines in the same series have never even hinted that Earth conquered worlds. Call it a retcon, but the line isn't out of place at all with what we know of McCoy and the federation.
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bull3964 posted:To this day I never understood why people took that line by McCoy seriously. He's ribbing Spock about Earth being seat of the Federation when Vulcans were the more advanced race. Then why is his blood green? Hobgoblin makes blood red!
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USS Plessy v. Ferguson USS Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
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Let me say something If you have children And you love Star Trek Seek out and watch Octonauts. It's basically the fourth best trek. It's pretty much a trek series in every conceivable way except it is underwater instead of in space and it is a bunch of animals exploring the ocean. But it is much more like Trek than SeaQuest. Your kids will love it and you will be pleased surprised.
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Mar 20, 2019 18:19
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Let me say something Yeah my nephew was obsessed with it and by brother was very excited that the show was actually....good
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What's the intended age group? USS Fetty Wap
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Brawnfire posted:What's the intended age group? 3-5 also 30-50
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Sodomy Hussein posted:Even worse than pre-Empire Strikes Back Star Wars fiction (in which no one knew any real setting details, especially surrounding the Force, so the books/comics went a little bugfuck). And the slightly-later Glove Of Darth Vader series was amazing tho
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Tunicate posted:And the slightly-later Glove Of Darth Vader series was amazing tho “I bid you dark greetings!” was the absolute peak of the old EU. Also that one Moff’s blaster earrings.
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Mar 20, 2019 18:40
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poo poo now I need to figure out what to name my Moffship
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Just as long as you aren’t late to the Mofference.
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https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/TheGloveOfDarthVaderquote:The bizarre reveal that after Jabba the Hutt died, the Tatooine government converted Jabba's palace to a retirement home.
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Sash! posted:poo poo now I need to figure out what to name my Moffship Moff Diver
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Sash! posted:poo poo now I need to figure out what to name my Moffship Hardcore Moff
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Unless there is a Star Wars/Marvel crossover*, it's definitely true that both franchises offer unique literature for the discriminating reader of fiction. *who am I kidding, without looking I'm going to say of course there is
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The best one is the angsty Quark novel co authored by Shimerman.
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The SFB guys are the sort of Tom Clancy-reading weirdo conservatives who will excuse anything America did, ever. The Federation in their setting is literally just Space America staring down Space USSR and Space China. I was always a little surprised they didn't invent a Space Middle East.
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