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canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
https://roboticsortingsolutions.com/

This is pretty neat. My FLGS owner just ordered one after seeing a demo of it at GAMA.

Robotic MTG card sorter. Dump in a pile of 1000 cards, tell it how you want them sorted and inventoried, push the button and go do something else for a while.

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Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

ProfessorCirno posted:

Mearls and WotC both are 100% trying to lay low and hope people forget about this rather then actually do anything or make any sort of statements.

It's weird seeing Satine Phoenix add 'Herald of Compassion' to her Twitter tag while working for WotC.

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

canyoneer posted:

https://roboticsortingsolutions.com/

This is pretty neat. My FLGS owner just ordered one after seeing a demo of it at GAMA.

Robotic MTG card sorter. Dump in a pile of 1000 cards, tell it how you want them sorted and inventoried, push the button and go do something else for a while.

That's really neat!

Finster Dexter
Oct 20, 2014

Beyond is Finster's mad vision of Earth transformed.

canyoneer posted:

https://roboticsortingsolutions.com/

This is pretty neat. My FLGS owner just ordered one after seeing a demo of it at GAMA.

Robotic MTG card sorter. Dump in a pile of 1000 cards, tell it how you want them sorted and inventoried, push the button and go do something else for a while.

I'd be afraid of it chewing up the cards and spitting out mtg-flavored confetti.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

Finster Dexter posted:

I'd be afraid of it chewing up the cards and spitting out mtg-flavored confetti.

I was worried about that too. It doesn't use rubber wheels or chutes like a printer, card shuffler, or mail sorting machine does.

It uses a little silicone suction cup with some vacuum pressure to pick up, move, and set down the card. This is a common interface in robotics used in product manufacturing, from putting things in boxes to moving million dollar silicon semiconductor wafers. It's also used in a number of consumer products :heysexy:

If it's gentle enough to handle a penis, it's gentle enough to handle Magic cards.

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib

canyoneer posted:

If it's gentle enough to handle a penis, it's gentle enough to handle Magic cards.

I'm sure this is too long to be a new thread title which is a crying shame.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Their website says they offer a guarantee where they will pay you for any cards it mangles.

a computing pun
Jan 1, 2013

Leperflesh posted:

Their website says they offer a guarantee where they will pay you for any cards it mangles.

That seems like a good way for unscrupulous people to turn low-quality rare cards into mint condition rare cards, but I guess the guarantee must have limits such that any card expensive enough for it to have a different price mint and non-mint is exempt.

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.
This is a cool article that's talking about how the death of Google+ will impact tabletop RPG communities and where people are looking for alternatives going forward:

https://waypoint.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/gyan3x/google-plus-rpgs

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

Nuns with Guns posted:

This is a cool article that's talking about how the death of Google+ will impact tabletop RPG communities and where people are looking for alternatives going forward:

https://waypoint.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/gyan3x/google-plus-rpgs

Maybe I missed it but I couldn't see even a cursory mention of how G+'s design facilitated harassment that went on for years.

It's fine to write articles celebrating what was good about it, but there should be a paragraph explaining it wasn't all sunshine, instead of just papering over the bad.

Rhandhali
Sep 7, 2003

This is Free Trader Beowulf, calling anyone...
Grimey Drawer

Lemon-Lime posted:

Maybe I missed it but I couldn't see even a cursory mention of how G+'s design facilitated harassment that went on for years.

It's fine to write articles celebrating what was good about it, but there should be a paragraph explaining it wasn't all sunshine, instead of just papering over the bad.

I never used g+ much but I'd be interested to hear what design features you're referring to.

I do have an account though and they are sending out emails about how you can download your data, if anyone is interested in that. It took several hours to generate the archive and that's for someone with minimal contribution and content. If you're going to back up I'd start the process now instead of waiting.

https://support.google.com/plus/answer/1045788

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

Rhandhali posted:

I never used g+ much but I'd be interested to hear what design features you're referring to.

The circles stuff (which G+ pioneered) meant it was very easy to organise harassment using G+, keeping all the coordination chat completely hidden from anyone not in on the harassment. It was actively used this way.

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

How does that differ from other communication tools that let you have private groups, private conversations, invite-only chat channels, etc.? Discord is pretty popular and it's ultra-trivial to set up a "server" (not really a server since it's all hosted on their end) to coordinate harassment that could not possibly be seen or found out about by the target.

The real difference as I see it is that other platforms tend to be better moderated than cavalier Silicon Valley techbro poo poo.

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

BattleMaster posted:

How does that differ from other communication tools that let you have private groups, private conversations, invite-only chat channels, etc.? Discord is pretty popular and it's ultra-trivial to set up a "server" (not really a server since it's all hosted on their end) to coordinate harassment that could not possibly be seen or found out about by the target.

The real difference as I see it is that other platforms tend to be better moderated than cavalier Silicon Valley techbro poo poo.

G+, and G+'s heyday, predates all of these things. Features like Facebook letting you share posts with friends/friends of friends/etc. are things that were added long after G+ was made publicly available.

The fact that similar features exist as part of other services now doesn't change the fact that the G+ circles feature contributed significantly to harassment in this industry, either.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Lemon-Lime posted:

G+, and G+'s heyday, predates all of these things. Features like Facebook letting you share posts with friends/friends of friends/etc. are things that were added long after G+ was made publicly available.

The fact that similar features exist as part of other services now doesn't change the fact that the G+ circles feature contributed significantly to harassment in this industry, either.

if you want something old there is always IRC

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
Circles were just a reimplementation of how LiveJournal filters worked, allowing for extremely fine-grained control over what you share with whom. They hired Brad Fitzpatrick for a reason.

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

Google+ launched in mid 2011, but Facebook added privacy settings a bit after they added the newsfeed in 2006 and I know it had private chat and groups before 2011 anyway since I was using that poo poo for activism in 2011.

Google+ sucked but don't pretend it really did anything special, it was always something that no one wanted

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

BattleMaster posted:

Google+ launched in mid 2011, but Facebook added privacy settings a bit after they added the newsfeed in 2006 and I know it had private chat and groups before 2011 anyway since I was using that poo poo for activism in 2011.

I definitely remember them adding stuff that was just copied from the G+ circles concept a year or two after G+ launched, but I can't find a list of Facebook features with release dates to see what features I'm remembering exactly.

BattleMaster posted:

Google+ sucked but don't pretend it really did anything special, it was always something that no one wanted

The special thing it did is get actively used to harass people by Zak S and friends, more so than other platforms or social networks.

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

Zak is poo poo but he'd have used any other platform that existed at the time if Google+ wasn't a thing

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



The other platforms of the era wouldn't have facilitated it quite as smoothly, and he'd almost certainly needed to creat a dedicated- purpose harassment secondary account.

G+ was special in that you could remain in the same waters as your target, then "submerge" to do secret stuff in a private group, all while maintaining your cover as a good community member.

If you're obsessed with people's perception of you but also a worthless evil gently caress, that's basically catnip.

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

FATAL & Friends
Walls of Text
#1 Builder
2014-2018

So apparently, Keystone LARP, a game that appears to take a ton of inspiration from Deadlands and Wild Wild West, is...surprise, racist as loving hell!

CW: Racist language and violence.


Meinberg
Oct 9, 2011

inspired by but legally distinct from CATS (2019)

Mors Rattus posted:

So apparently, Keystone LARP, a game that appears to take a ton of inspiration from Deadlands and Wild Wild West, is...surprise, racist as loving hell!

CW: Racist language and violence.




One of the people involved is Derek Herrera, a person known widely to the Boston larp community as a serial abuser, sexual harasser, and groomer of younger female players. He has been kicked out of multiple organizations for his behavior, but also has a small but passionate cult of personality around him.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Where are the General Sherman LARPers, they are needed here most of all.

neaden
Nov 4, 2012

A changer of ways

Lemon-Lime posted:

Maybe I missed it but I couldn't see even a cursory mention of how G+'s design facilitated harassment that went on for years.

It's fine to write articles celebrating what was good about it, but there should be a paragraph explaining it wasn't all sunshine, instead of just papering over the bad.

Vice published a Zak article on D&D at least once, so not super surprising they wouldn't mention his harassment.

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.
One of the big advantages for harassing on G+ was how easy it was to tag larger (or more sympathetic) groups of people into a private conversation. You can do similar things on Twitter with quote replies or Facebook with screenshots but that takes more effort and reads more like a call out. Tagging in wider cricles looks way more innocuous and people who aren't proficient with G+ often won't even understand why that's a big deal.

Cessna
Feb 20, 2013

KHABAHBLOOOM

Hostile V posted:

Where are the General Sherman LARPers, they are needed here most of all.

Maybe ask some Civil War reenactors to participate?

Ego Trip
Aug 28, 2012

A tenacious little mouse!


Meinberg posted:

Boston larp community

We have a LARP community?

Razorwired
Dec 7, 2008

It's about to start!

Dawgstar posted:

It's weird seeing Satine Phoenix add 'Herald of Compassion' to her Twitter tag while working for WotC.

Yeah lately most of the wotc tweets are "Join the stream with Satine the Woke Queen*"



*please don't look into who Satine's friends are.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Lemon-Lime posted:

Features like Facebook letting you share posts with friends/friends of friends/etc. are things that were added long after G+ was made publicly available.

Are you sure about that?

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

The main thing is that while Facebook has share options of Public/Friends/Friends Except.../Specific Friends.../Only Me/Custom and then if you've clicked "more" a couple of times you can access friends lists you've set up (or it's set up that it thinks you want) the way it's displayed encourages and makes easiest sharing either public or all friends. Google+ put circles front and center.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
The way I heard G+ circles were usually used is one for 'Mom' and one for 'can see porn'.

Elector_Nerdlingen
Sep 27, 2004



Ghost Leviathan posted:

The way I heard G+ circles were usually used is one for 'Mom' and one for 'can see porn'.

"Posts that can be seen by everyone"

"Posts that can be seen by everyone except that one relative who throws a tantrum if they're unfriended but also if they're personally mocked and derided by pictures of things that they violently oppose on political, moral, and ethical grounds, for example, windmills".

Thanlis
Mar 17, 2011

Did Sean Patrick Fannon ever produce an actual apology for his harassment, or were there other developments I missed? Dude is all over the Prowlers & Paragons Kickstarter.

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Thanlis posted:

Did Sean Patrick Fannon ever produce an actual apology for his harassment, or were there other developments I missed? Dude is all over the Prowlers & Paragons Kickstarter.
IIRC, he never even produced a fake apology - just a wall of text screed doxxing his accusers and putting it all on them.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках
Anyone seen an update on the Green Ronin Timeline?

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.

Thanlis posted:

Did Sean Patrick Fannon ever produce an actual apology for his harassment, or were there other developments I missed? Dude is all over the Prowlers & Paragons Kickstarter.

God dammit, someone's been advertising that on a Facebook group I'm in and now I have to say something.

Thanks, I'd forgotten about him.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Lemniscate Blue posted:

God dammit, someone's been advertising that on a Facebook group I'm in and now I have to say something.

Thanks, I'd forgotten about him.

Yeah, some KS campaign I'd backed some time ago popped up with 'hey, you liked this product why not try the new Prowlers and Paragons!' and I knew that name was familiar.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

The Chinese government burned an entire shipment of a CoC kickstarted book. Could that mean that there will be future crackdowns on the hobby there?

Haystack
Jan 23, 2005





Given that that book was set in historical China, probably not. I mean, the censors also just burned a whole bunch of world maps that didn't show disputed territories as part of China, so it's probably just a general shift in policy that may or may not last.

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LashLightning
Feb 20, 2010

You know you didn't have to go post that, right?
But it's fine, I guess...

You just keep being you!

Plutonis posted:

The Chinese government burned an entire shipment of a CoC kickstarted book. Could that mean that there will be future crackdowns on the hobby there?

Going in, or going out?!

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