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Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

tarbrush posted:

You’re right, but they are also the fourth biggest grouping of MPs, and the meeting is about a vote that will pass by single figure votes if it passes. Doing it without him would be counterproductive, however objectionable May and Corbyn find TIG

TIG have purposefully constituted their "group" so as to not be a party and exempt themselves from the oversight that entails. Rewarding them for this by allowing them to effectively act as one when it matters (or could plausibly matter, this meeting was apparently just May yet again restating the same exact case she's been making for months) would be a terrible idea.

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Juliet Whisky
Jan 14, 2017

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

TIGgers are still respective members of their original parties. There's no reason to invite any of them because they're not a real opposition group.

If you wanted to win a vote in parliament on anything then it would probably be a good idea to speak with the various factions, although, confusingly, most of them are contained within the Conservative Party. The odd thing is that May is representing all of them now, despite a political career of never being for anything except herself.

Juliet Whisky has issued a correction as of 01:22 on Mar 21, 2019

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

Juliet Whisky posted:

If you wanted to win a vote in parliament on anything then it would probably be a good idea to speak with the various factions, although, confusingly, most of them are contained within the Conservative Party.

Well yeah, exactly. If Mogg isn't there, there's no reason Umunna should be.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Juliet Whisky posted:

If you wanted to win a vote in parliament on anything then it would probably be a good idea to speak with the various factions, although, confusingly, most of them are contained within the Conservative Party.

No doubt, but one after the other would be the way to do it.
Hello pope Francis and anti-pope Crowley. Care for some tea?

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1108512070226591745

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
BREXIT!

Itzena
Aug 2, 2006

Nothing will improve the way things currently are.
Slime TrainerS

Wonder how many people reported this as threatening physical violence? :v:

Heavy_D
Feb 16, 2002

"rararararara" contains the meaning of everything, kept in simple rectangular structures
been catching up on the cartoons thread, and this one from a few months spoke to me after today's events

Juliet Whisky
Jan 14, 2017


BREXIT

BRUXET

BRUXELLES?

Raccooon
Dec 5, 2009

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

Petition to remain in EU over 300k now. Hitting refresh watching it tick up.

Yuli Ban
Nov 22, 2016

Bot
(This following post was absolutely not stolen from Reddit)

It's one thing to belligerently ignore the breadth of feeling across the entire spectrum of the UK's representative democracy, but to claim that she is on the people's side, while claiming parliament is corrupt with arcane games makes parliament seem like the enemy of the people. Is that where she crossed the line from being incompetent to being authoritarian?

Was tonight the dawn of Arsefire?

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004


Amazing! Toe-man thumbs nose at May; "limb from limb" if Brexit delayed

Raccooon
Dec 5, 2009

Gonna plan a vacation to UK next year. Just gonna bring a sack of canned beans to barter with.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008


don't test him, he's lost 9 elections

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

tarbrush posted:

You’re right, but they are also the fourth biggest grouping of MPs, and the meeting is about a vote that will pass by single figure votes if it passes. Doing it without him would be counterproductive, however objectionable May and Corbyn find TIG

Yeah corbyn's petty pissbaby tantrum is a chilling reminder of just how deeply in trouble britain is.

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Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

tarbrush posted:

You’re right, but they are also the fourth biggest grouping of MPs, and the meeting is about a vote that will pass by single figure votes if it passes. Doing it without him would be counterproductive, however objectionable May and Corbyn find TIG


hakimashou posted:

Yeah corbyn's petty pissbaby tantrum is a chilling reminder of just how deeply in trouble britain is.

uh you guys do know TIG are just tories right

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

which way is corbyn and labor voting on these last bills? pls explain for a dumb american who lost track

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

Raccooon posted:

Gonna plan a vacation to UK next year. Just gonna bring a sack of canned beans to barter with.

we're gonna loving kill and eat you, AND your beans

alnilam
Nov 10, 2009

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Brexit plan!

Lisa needs assurances

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010

tarbrush posted:

You’re right, but they are also the fourth biggest grouping of MPs, and the meeting is about a vote that will pass by single figure votes if it passes. Doing it without him would be counterproductive, however objectionable May and Corbyn find TIG

Isn't the TIG made up of 8 crybaby neoliberals that quit Labour over "antisemitism" then immediately made racist comments on launch day?

Why should they be invited to a discussion with party leaders when it's TIG, which is NOT EVEN A PARTY

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded
Death to Macron, death to TIGs.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

HiHo ChiRho posted:

Isn't the TIG made up of 8 crybaby neoliberals that quit Labour over "antisemitism" then immediately made racist comments on launch day?

galax brain chuka umunna got into bed with people who want those that have a "funny tinge" to gently caress off

shirts and skins
Jun 25, 2007

Good morning!
Pretty funny that Umunna has wrecked his political career to be a BIG BOY KINGMAKER only for Corbyn to tell him to gently caress off the instant he sees him

Puntification
Nov 4, 2009

Black Orthodontromancy
The most British Magic

Fun Shoe

Juliet Whisky posted:

If you wanted to win a vote in parliament on anything then it would probably be a good idea to speak with the various factions, although, confusingly, most of them are contained within the Conservative Party. The odd thing is that May is representing all of them now, despite a political career of never being for anything except herself.

Actually her track record clearly demonstrates she's fiercely pro-racism.

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

HiHo ChiRho posted:

Isn't the TIG made up of 8 crybaby neoliberals that quit Labour over "antisemitism" then immediately made racist comments on launch day?

Why should they be invited to a discussion with party leaders when it's TIG, which is NOT EVEN A PARTY

There are also three former Tories in TIG and to be fair, Umunna can't accurately be described as a neoliberal. That would imply he has some sincerely held beliefs.

Juliet Whisky
Jan 14, 2017

Puntification posted:

Actually her track record clearly demonstrates she's fiercely pro-racism.

Consistent racism, £3,000 trousers, and not helping anyone else ever is the kind of cross-sectional appeal which makes a 21st-century Prime Minister in this sad, sad world.

She did learn the racism from coming in as a tough Home Secretary after a couple of Labour governments had done their best to fend off refugees from wars they'd started but that's hardly in her defence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDG4P8KPUSk

Juliet Whisky has issued a correction as of 03:06 on Mar 21, 2019

byob historian
Nov 5, 2008

I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!

but what does it mean ?! :thunk:

bird.
Jun 20, 2010

I don't mean to laugh at your misfortune but the way this all has been playing out has been peak British comedy gold rolling down the mountain into a comedy avalanche

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
The US congress is not going to pass a trade deal with Britain in the event of a hard Brexit, which would inevitably “blow up” the Northern Ireland peace process, a visiting American senator warned, as he spoke of “deep concern” in Washington about the chaotic state of the political process in this country.

...

“I think we have got to put the EU first and Britain second, not because we don’t love Britain, but because we have got to do some important work to restore American relations with multilateral institutions like Europe,” said the Connecticut senator.

Mr Murphy was speaking in London as the US president’s son, Donald Trump Jr, declared in an op-ed in The Telegraph that democracy was “all but dead” in UK because Theresa May had failed to deliver Brexit.

...

“The Irish American lobby, of which I am a member, is pretty powerful in the US. Unless there is certainty about how you’re going to put off a hard border between Ireland and Northern Ireland, there isn’t going to be a lot of interest in congress in the US getting into a trade deal with Britain.

“The head of the Committee on Overseas Trade in the House is Richie Neill, who is the most prominent member of the Irish American caucus and he [will] be asking lots of questions, you can be sure, about the peace process before anything happens.”

Mr Murphy advised caution over Mr Trump’s tweets promising a quick trade agreement with Britain: “We’ve learnt not to pay too much attention to the president’s Twitter feed. There is not a lot of connection between what he tweets and what he does.

“So just because the president’s tweeting that he’s going to go gangbusters into a US-Britain trade deal doesn’t mean that he’s going to, nor does it mean congress will follow.”

The senator also warned that London should not expect an easy ride in a Trump deal. The US will have great leverage in negotiations and use it to demand market access for farm products like chlorinated chicken now barred from Europe, he warned.

“Trump wants to negotiate with Britain because he can get stuff from Britain that he can’t get from the EU. The administration believes it can get Britain to drop agricultural protections that it can’t get Brussels to drop,” he said.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-us-eu-trade-deal-uk-senator-chris-murphy-a8832541.html

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

JFairfax posted:

The US congress is not going to pass a trade deal with Britain in the event of a hard Brexit, which would inevitably “blow up” the Northern Ireland peace process, a visiting American senator warned, as he spoke of “deep concern” in Washington about the chaotic state of the political process in this country.

...

“I think we have got to put the EU first and Britain second, not because we don’t love Britain, but because we have got to do some important work to restore American relations with multilateral institutions like Europe,” said the Connecticut senator.

Mr Murphy was speaking in London as the US president’s son, Donald Trump Jr, declared in an op-ed in The Telegraph that democracy was “all but dead” in UK because Theresa May had failed to deliver Brexit.

...

“The Irish American lobby, of which I am a member, is pretty powerful in the US. Unless there is certainty about how you’re going to put off a hard border between Ireland and Northern Ireland, there isn’t going to be a lot of interest in congress in the US getting into a trade deal with Britain.

“The head of the Committee on Overseas Trade in the House is Richie Neill, who is the most prominent member of the Irish American caucus and he [will] be asking lots of questions, you can be sure, about the peace process before anything happens.”

Mr Murphy advised caution over Mr Trump’s tweets promising a quick trade agreement with Britain: “We’ve learnt not to pay too much attention to the president’s Twitter feed. There is not a lot of connection between what he tweets and what he does.

“So just because the president’s tweeting that he’s going to go gangbusters into a US-Britain trade deal doesn’t mean that he’s going to, nor does it mean congress will follow.”

The senator also warned that London should not expect an easy ride in a Trump deal. The US will have great leverage in negotiations and use it to demand market access for farm products like chlorinated chicken now barred from Europe, he warned.

“Trump wants to negotiate with Britain because he can get stuff from Britain that he can’t get from the EU. The administration believes it can get Britain to drop agricultural protections that it can’t get Brussels to drop,” he said.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-us-eu-trade-deal-uk-senator-chris-murphy-a8832541.html

Does providing weapons and training to the IRA count as a trade deal?

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

hobbesmaster posted:

Does providing weapons and training to the IRA count as a trade deal?

yeah, but for the Republic of Ireland obviously - not the UK

Ayn Randi
Mar 12, 2009


Grimey Drawer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi0uX2sZuFg

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme
PRIME MINIIIISTER!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9uj2GY1MHQ

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

May must be playing Suicide is Painless on repeat now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODV6mxVVRZk

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/OwenPaterson/status/1108452179705298944

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010

hobbesmaster posted:

Does providing weapons and training to the IRA count as a trade deal?

Yeah, but that's a deal with a member state in the EU

bitmap
Aug 8, 2006

paddypower dropped the no deal odds again :yum:

alnilam
Nov 10, 2009

What fresh new lmaos await us today, EU rejection? May trying to get her deal up for a vote by changing to papyrus font?



ty manifisto

bitmap
Aug 8, 2006

ah, well, allow me: her deal will be rejected again and we will crash out with no deal

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Yuli Ban
Nov 22, 2016

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It's the Brexingularity! Maybot is failing at a geometric rate!

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