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I still find it incredible that calling for a second referendum would be a travesty of democracy but voting three times for the same thing against 400 year old parliamentary rules is the only way lmao
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May invited TIG not because they're legitimate, but because she lost the only vote that can save her career by 150 votes, and she needs literally everyone who isn't an insane hard Brexiteer to vote for her deal. It's not a legitimacy thing it's a desperation thing. Soubry and Wollaston have done everything short of call her a oval office in public, I'm sure she's not happy about putting up with them either, but their votes could make a difference so they get to be in the tent.
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pathetic little tramp posted:Life crime!
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Dark Judge Brexit
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if no one votes for mays deal, I can see the country blaming her for a no deal brexit, however if she gets the extension and it goes down I can see it tarnishing everyone
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Mar 21, 2019 13:53
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I've been suprised by how much the public are willing to blame her and not the EU, given the amount of effort the government has put in to blaming the EU.
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tarbrush posted:I've been suprised by how much the public are willing to blame her and not the EU, given the amount of effort the government has put in to blaming the EU. i imagine all the postponements and the obviousness of her loss of control of the process and party as well as her obstinate refusal to countenance any alternatives seeps down even to the british public
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Mar 21, 2019 13:58
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Yeah I think it was only 7% in the last poll who blamed the EU in a rare example of the British public not being wrong.
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She's caved to the ERG every time. Better hope those "moderate" conservatives have a spine In unrelated news, they don't and we're utterly hosed.
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Mar 21, 2019 14:15
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she probably doesn't care because the press are already blaming corbyn for it
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Jose posted:she probably doesn't care because the press are already blaming corbyn for it It's an amazing rationale that the press are saying "Corbyn can meet with Hamas, a terrorist organization but not Chuka???" and then rehashing the wreath laying thing for five paragraphs, leaving the implication that the TIG are terrorists and Corbyn is a hypocrite for not meeting with them lol
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Mar 21, 2019 14:28
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Is she still asking for a June 30th extension? And hasn't Marcon said that he's going to veto regardless?
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Mar 21, 2019 14:33
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Yes and yes.
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Mar 21, 2019 14:37
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alnilam posted:I still find it incredible that calling for a second referendum would be a travesty of democracy but voting three times for the same thing against 400 year old parliamentary rules is the only way lmao Why does she not want a second referendum? If it passes for remain, that would give them the cover to get out of this whole mess. Does TM actually want to do Brexit?
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Mar 21, 2019 14:43
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lol what extension
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Raccooon posted:Why does she not want a second referendum? If it passes for remain, that would give them the cover to get out of this whole mess. Does TM actually want to do Brexit? Of course she does. Have you not been paying attention this past few centuries of the Brexit process? What could possibly have given you the idea she wanted to get out of this mess?
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Raccooon posted:Why does she not want a second referendum? If it passes for remain, that would give them the cover to get out of this whole mess. Does TM actually want to do Brexit? On top of actually wanting it, there's the whole problem of a second referendum meaning you can just do-over a democratic vote that "doesn't go your way" until you get the results you want, and how that would mean the first referendum was meaningless and not democracy working. Of course, then there's the whole argument about the validity of that first referendum in the first place with the lies etc. so it's all a giant clusterfuck.
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univbee posted:On top of actually wanting it, there's the whole problem of a second referendum meaning you can just do-over a democratic vote that "doesn't go your way" until you get the results you want, and how that would mean the first referendum was meaningless and not democracy working. Of course, then there's the whole argument about the validity of that first referendum in the first place with the lies etc. so it's all a giant clusterfuck. Yes, May is very much against holding votes again and again until she gets the result she wants.
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marktheando posted:Yes, May is very much against holding votes again and again until she gets the result she wants. Correct, emphasis on that last part.
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Raccooon posted:Why does she not want a second referendum? If it passes for remain, that would give them the cover to get out of this whole mess. Does TM actually want to do Brexit? She wants to do her Brexit, and if she doesn't get her way, she wants to set the whole country on fire out of spite. That's it. That's all it is.
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Mar 21, 2019 14:52
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Leavers will literally murder MP's while Remainers will just cry quietly at work.
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Mar 21, 2019 14:55
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BioMe posted:lol what extension long Brexit and long egg with a side of long pig 
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Mar 21, 2019 14:57
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Just blows my mind that a UK politician wants the destruction of the UK to be their legacy
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univbee posted:On top of actually wanting it, there's the whole problem of a second referendum meaning you can just do-over a democratic vote that "doesn't go your way" until you get the results you want, and how that would mean the first referendum was meaningless and not democracy working. Of course, then there's the whole argument about the validity of that first referendum in the first place with the lies etc. so it's all a giant clusterfuck. Wouldn't a second referendum be more like given that their is more information about how this is going to go do you still want to do it? Not just a redo.
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Raccooon posted:Just blows my mind that a UK politician wants the destruction of the UK to be their legacy Her legacy is hosed regardless so why not
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Raccooon posted:Wouldn't a second referendum be more like given that their is more information about how this is going to go do you still want to do it? Not just a redo. Yes, but lol if you think the chuds will see it that way.
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Raccooon posted:Just blows my mind that a UK politician wants the destruction of the UK to be their legacy yes i like nicola sturgeon too
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Mar 21, 2019 15:15
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A second referendum would split the conversative party. She values the Conservative party above Great Britain and everyone in it.
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She has no friends outside of the party
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Mar 21, 2019 15:20
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cant wait for troubles 2 electric boogaloo to start!!!!
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Jose posted:She has no friends outside of the party She has friends inside the party?
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BioMe posted:She has friends inside the party? I assume her husband is a Conservative? Other than that, no.
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haha I’m remembering an article that said May is popular with her local party because she always attends their events. imagine having a social life that’s just Tory party functions in loving Maidenhead lmao
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Mar 21, 2019 15:26
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tarbrush posted:I assume her husband is a Conservative? Other than that, no. well he’s an arms dealer so probably
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Mar 21, 2019 15:26
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lol my wife's old friend (who's British but currently lives in Canada) posted this on Facebook
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marktheando posted:haha I’m remembering an article that said May is popular with her local party because she always attends their events. imagine having a social life that’s just Tory party functions in loving Maidenhead lmao Siri what is hell?
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univbee posted:lol my wife's old friend (who's British but currently lives in Canada) posted this on Facebook we demand to be taken seriously
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Top City Homo posted:PRIME MINIIIISTER! Say what you will about JRM, but that's a dope hook.
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Barry Foster posted:She wants to do her Brexit, and if she doesn't get her way, she wants to set the whole country on fire out of spite. But her Brexit isn't Brexit. Her deal is just an extension period where Britain is still kinda in the EU so they can figure out what to do later
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