Mechwarrior Online: the so-called "meta"

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Third World Reagan: May 19, 2008; Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

If you have ATMs or LRMs, be agressive, don't try to indirect fire. I am seeing some crazy numbers for damage from aggressive boats.

# ? Mar 20, 2019 00:03

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# ? Jun 10, 2024 08:11

Freakazoid_: Jul 5, 2013; Buglord

Saving LRMs by making them more like MRMs?

# ? Mar 20, 2019 03:54

TjyvTompa: Jun 1, 2001; im gay

Forest Colony Classic sucks and I want it to be removed.
Didn't play the Corsair enough to say if it is good or bad yet but it looks really cool.

Everyone ran massive amounts of AMS yesterday so haven't felt the LRM changes yet.

# ? Mar 20, 2019 11:28

Skippy McPants: Mar 19, 2009

TjyvTompa posted:

Didn't play the Corsair enough to say if it is good or bad yet but it looks really cool.

It's left arm and legs are so loving big and unwieldy. I half expect it to start screaming, "I am not an animal; I am baaaattle meeeech!"

# ? Mar 20, 2019 12:24

peer: Jan 17, 2004; this is not what I wanted

corsair variants with two arms look goofy as hell

edit: but one-armed and armless versions are great :shobon:

peer fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Mar 20, 2019

# ? Mar 20, 2019 13:20

Artificer: Apr 8, 2010; You're going to try ponies and you're. Going. To. LOVE. ME!!

AMS is good. I love not having to deal with lurmageddon. Death to lrmboats.

# ? Mar 20, 2019 16:44

peer: Jan 17, 2004; this is not what I wanted

What the heck do you do with the Corsair 5T, with 6x ballistic in those awful arms?

# ? Mar 20, 2019 21:07

Moleboy: Apr 20, 2011; Looksy
-Hindsight-

Looking Back, I am sure of 2 things:
1. I should have found the thread before it finished
2. Grimper may have actually done one or two things wrong

peer posted:

What the heck do you do with the Corsair 5T, with 6x ballistic in those awful arms?

Speaking of 6x Ballistic slots, how bad of an idea is a 6x UAC2 build on a MaulerMX90? Right now I have it loaded with MG's and MRMs.

# ? Mar 20, 2019 23:15

Zernach: Oct 23, 2012

As a long time King Crab idiot I support all builds that use 6xAC2/UAC2, provided you run some hotkey tool to get a proper chainfire going. UAC2 builds especially can be hilariously hit or miss, sometimes RNGeesus is with you and you just hose down any idiot standing in the open, other times you get a second of dakka until half of your guns jam.

# ? Mar 21, 2019 00:01

Artificer: Apr 8, 2010; You're going to try ponies and you're. Going. To. LOVE. ME!!

The patch yesterday has hosed direct fire missile weapons, as well as LRMs to some degree. ATMs has survived to a greater degree somewhat.

AMS now hits SRMs and MRMs and the missiles' decreased HP means that AMS is now very effective.

1 AMS from 200 meters away will destroy roughly 40% of a MRM40 volley. A clan streak 6 from 200m away will lose 90%+ of its missiles.

Artificer fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Mar 21, 2019

# ? Mar 21, 2019 00:06

Freakazoid_: Jul 5, 2013; Buglord

pgi still being :pgi:

mw5 can't come soon enough

# ? Mar 21, 2019 04:44

EoRaptor: Sep 13, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

Our friendly pilots are ready to meet you!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYkUjTk9De4

# ? Mar 21, 2019 04:52

WhiskeyJuvenile: Feb 15, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo

Artificer posted:

The patch yesterday has hosed direct fire missile weapons, as well as LRMs to some degree. ATMs has survived to a greater degree somewhat.

AMS now hits SRMs and MRMs and the missiles' decreased HP means that AMS is now very effective.

1 AMS from 200 meters away will destroy roughly 40% of a MRM40 volley. A clan streak 6 from 200m away will lose 90%+ of its missiles.

quad ams piranha :q:

# ? Mar 21, 2019 13:42

Third World Reagan: May 19, 2008; Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

I am still really tempted to do this

# ? Mar 21, 2019 20:19

Moleboy: Apr 20, 2011; Looksy
-Hindsight-

Looking Back, I am sure of 2 things:
1. I should have found the thread before it finished
2. Grimper may have actually done one or two things wrong

So apparently since they nerfed my beloved ATM's rather than buffed them, I guess I will have to work on ballistic boating. are 4 AC5's better than 6 ac2s? Been a while since I dove into the full ballistic meta mechanics.

# ? Mar 21, 2019 21:14

TjyvTompa: Jun 1, 2001; im gay

Moleboy posted:

So apparently since they nerfed my beloved ATM's rather than buffed them, I guess I will have to work on ballistic boating. are 4 AC5's better than 6 ac2s? Been a while since I dove into the full ballistic meta mechanics.

But they did buff them, at least the velocity.

For autocannons it depends on the mech you want to play. The CP-S with 4xuAC/5s is hard to beat. MX90 with 5xAC/5s is a classic. WHM-BW with 2x/AC5, 2xuAC/5 VEry Nice. 2xAC/20 jaeger is deadly. AC/2s are kinda meh in my homo opinion, maybe if you want to run a king crab or direwolf but why would you want to do that.

With all the lurm assaults and corsairs running around I've been playing mostly my CGR-1A5 brawler.

# ? Mar 22, 2019 09:03

TjyvTompa: Jun 1, 2001; im gay

New mech variants announced as pre-order bonuses for MW5. Pretty cool stuff: https://mwomercs.com/news/2019/03/2255-mw5-community-preorder-bonus-mwo-mech-loadouts

CPLT-C2

code:

Head	
Left Arm	2 Missile (Actuators: Upper)
Left Torso	1 Ballistic
Center Torso	
Right Torso	1 Ballistic, 1 AMS
Right Arm	2 Missile (Actuators: Upper)

WHM-9D

code:

Head	
Left Arm	2 Energy (Actuators: Upper, Lower)
Left Torso	2 Energy
Center Torso	1 AMS
Right Torso	2 Energy
Right Arm	1 Energy (Actuators: Upper, Lower)

MAD-9M

code:

Head	1 Energy
Left Arm	2 Energy (Actuators: Upper, Lower)
Left Torso	1 Missile, 1 AMS
Center Torso	1 ECM
Right Torso	1 Missile
Right Arm	2 Energy (Actuators: Upper, Lower)

KGC-001

code:

Head	
Left Arm	2 Ballistic (Actuators: Upper)
Left Torso	3 Missile
Center Torso	1 AMS
Right Torso	2 Energy, 1 Missile
Right Arm	2 Ballistic (Actuators: Upper)

The Catapult and Warhammer can mount JJs and the Marauder can have ECM.
The most interesting to me is the WHM and MAD variants, might be good.

# ? Mar 22, 2019 10:48

smooth jazz: May 13, 2010

So if we've already preordered we get all those mechs and mechbays?

# ? Mar 22, 2019 11:01

TjyvTompa: Jun 1, 2001; im gay

smooth jazz posted:

So if we've already preordered we get all those mechs and mechbays?

Yes. If you want all of them you need to pre-order the game before the 9th of April.

# ? Mar 22, 2019 11:59

Surprise Giraffe: Apr 30, 2007; 1 Lunar Road
Moon crater
The Moon

Moleboy posted:

So apparently since they nerfed my beloved ATM's rather than buffed them, I guess I will have to work on ballistic boating. are 4 AC5's better than 6 ac2s? Been a while since I dove into the full ballistic meta mechanics.

4 x UAC 5 on a Mauler 1P can be excellent, especially if you get some mouse macros going

# ? Mar 22, 2019 12:40

TjyvTompa: Jun 1, 2001; im gay

Surprise Giraffe posted:

4 x UAC 5 on a Mauler 1P can be excellent, especially if you get some mouse macros going

You don't need a macro for uAC/5's. Just bind all weapons to both mouse buttons and mash. Mashing also works for uAC/2s in the DRG-5N but if you are planning on bringing out the DWF-UV then I would say that a macro would improve your damage output, but really macros are for losers :smug:

# ? Mar 22, 2019 14:15

Surprise Giraffe: Apr 30, 2007; 1 Lunar Road
Moon crater
The Moon

TjyvTompa posted:

You don't need a macro for uAC/5's. Just bind all weapons to both mouse buttons and mash. Mashing also works for uAC/2s in the DRG-5N but if you are planning on bringing out the DWF-UV then I would say that a macro would improve your damage output, but really macros are for losers

My feeble accuracy evaporates when I have to both mash buttons and aim

# ? Mar 23, 2019 00:14

EoRaptor: Sep 13, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

Had a weird issue on Rubellite Oasis, anybody ever seen anything similar?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTz3RyCB8zI

Match ID for reference

# ? Mar 23, 2019 02:28

sebmojo: Oct 23, 2010; Legit Cyberpunk

God help me I just preordered plz :pgi:

don't make me sad

# ? Mar 23, 2019 02:32

Hexenritter: May 20, 2001

sebmojo posted:

God help me I just preordered plz don't make me sad

fellow good financial decision buddy

# ? Mar 23, 2019 02:32

sebmojo: Oct 23, 2010; Legit Cyberpunk

Hexenritter posted:

fellow good financial decision buddy

Heyyyyyyy

# ? Mar 23, 2019 02:39

Pornographic Memory: Dec 17, 2008

honestly have super low expectations of mw5 being basically a random mission generator giving my robot (and up to 3 friends) a shooting gallery to grind for new robots. but i just wanna stomp around in cool robots and not have to deal with pubbies and play all the bracket/lore builds i want so hey thats fine by me

# ? Mar 23, 2019 17:53

peer: Jan 17, 2004; this is not what I wanted

yeah, don't have high expectations but "MWO quality, but single player" is better than no mechwarrior v :shobon:

# ? Mar 23, 2019 18:47

aniviron: Sep 11, 2014

Pornographic Memory posted:

honestly have super low expectations of mw5 being basically a random mission generator giving my robot (and up to 3 friends) a shooting gallery to grind for new robots. but i just wanna stomp around in cool robots and not have to deal with pubbies and play all the bracket/lore builds i want so hey thats fine by me

We know the main campaign missions are going to be "handcrafted" but I assume like MW2 Mercs there will be some critical path missions that were really nicely made and then the rest of the optional contracts are procedural.

# ? Mar 24, 2019 08:17

smooth jazz: May 13, 2010

Can't wait for AI squadmates who run into buildings and shoot SRM straight up into the air.

# ? Mar 24, 2019 08:22

Hexenritter: May 20, 2001

aniviron posted:

We know the main campaign missions are going to be "handcrafted" but I assume like MW2 Mercs there will be some critical path missions that were really nicely made and then the rest of the optional contracts are procedural.

There'd better be endless procgenned contracts

# ? Mar 24, 2019 08:45

Q_res: Oct 29, 2005; We're fucking built for this shit!

aniviron posted:

We know the main campaign missions are going to be "handcrafted" but I assume like MW2 Mercs there will be some critical path missions that were really nicely made and then the rest of the optional contracts are procedural.

This would track with how much of this game seems to be taking ideas from HBS Battletech they thought were cool and applying it to a MW title.

# ? Mar 24, 2019 19:15

EoRaptor: Sep 13, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

Am I posting too many videos?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9hHiEkjnp8

# ? Mar 25, 2019 01:26

Artificer: Apr 8, 2010; You're going to try ponies and you're. Going. To. LOVE. ME!!

That is the slowest firestarter I've ever seen in my life.

# ? Mar 25, 2019 01:27

TjyvTompa: Jun 1, 2001; im gay

Artificer posted:

That is the slowest firestarter I've ever seen in my life.

Another person whos brain has been ruined by the LFE's.
I am guessing the Firestarter build looks something like this: FS9-H
Dont just stick LFEs on all your mechs, they have their place but just like you dont go and stick XLs on everything you dont put LFEs on everything.

For anyone that is wondering you put XLs on all your lights because speed is armor and there is no point in running around with a single torso in a light. Mediums also get XLs in my homo opinion but heavies do not unless they are super cool like the WHM-6D and WHM-BW. The only assault with an XL I know about is the BLR-2C with 5xLPL, I've switched the VTR-9S and CP-S over to LFE's.

EoRaptor posted:

Am I posting too many videos?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9hHiEkjnp8

I don't mind but maybe you got some hot clips of a certain someone showing off his sweet moves, just a suggestion.

# ? Mar 25, 2019 08:36

EoRaptor: Sep 13, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

TjyvTompa posted:

Another person whos brain has been ruined by the LFE's.
I am guessing the Firestarter build looks something like this: FS9-H
Dont just stick LFEs on all your mechs, they have their place but just like you dont go and stick XLs on everything you dont put LFEs on everything.

For anyone that is wondering you put XLs on all your lights because speed is armor and there is no point in running around with a single torso in a light. Mediums also get XLs in my homo opinion but heavies do not unless they are super cool like the WHM-6D and WHM-BW. The only assault with an XL I know about is the BLR-2C with 5xLPL, I've switched the VTR-9S and CP-S over to LFE's.

I switched my CP-S to a standard engine for the UAC/5 build. After losing a side torso and instantly overheating three times in two days, I decided going a little slower was acceptable. That doesn't include the time I was shut down, lost my side torso, and powered up only to instantly overheat and shut down again (I died).

TjyvTompa posted:

I don't mind but maybe you got some hot clips of a certain someone showing off his sweet moves, just a suggestion.

Peacelock got his DVR software working, so he can post his own videos.

Despite 'Lurmpocalypse III - The LRMening' fears, the recent missile changes actually make AMS more worthwhile. Normally this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPs_X6bL6Yg

would have been fatal. With just a few teammates worth of AMS, it became very survivable. I don't even have any of the AMS skills.

# ? Mar 25, 2019 18:51

Artificer: Apr 8, 2010; You're going to try ponies and you're. Going. To. LOVE. ME!!

Keep in mind that my frames and graphics settings are trash and the quality only drops further upon upload to youtube.

My laptop is Not Good.

Weird little fight where a quarter of the enemy team goes for a long flank and leaves the rest of their team to die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O35-Ci0a0s

Two back to back fights demonstrating both how to play on HPG manifold....and how not to play on HPG manifold.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWiUa5XRSc4

And why an unchallenged Clan Assault is Bad News. Also: Artificer is bad at reading damage readouts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C-4Cs_t9Nk

Artificer fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Mar 25, 2019

# ? Mar 25, 2019 19:46

TjyvTompa: Jun 1, 2001; im gay

New sale "Nice lance bro": https://mwomercs.com/news/2019/03/2258-nice-lance-bro-mech-sale

4 IS Chassis (1 of each Weigh Class)
Flea
Vulcan
Thanatos
Fafnir

4 Clan Chassis (1 of each Weigh Class)
Incubus
Black Lanner
Hellfire
Blood Asp

Dates:
Sale Starts: March 29th 00:00 UTC
Sale Ends: April 3rd 00:00 UTC

Pretty fun mechs, at least the Vulcan and Hellfire.

VL-5T: 5xMPL, JJs, its like a bigger WLF-2 but with JJs, very good, a real sleeper mech, get this.
VL-2T: 2xuAC/10 pretty fun, good mounts.
BLOODLUST: 2xSRM4, 2xSRM6, it's very similar to the assassin.

HLF-A: https://mech.nav-alpha.com/#38fb3411_HLF-A One of my favourite mechs, it packs a big punch, goes fast with MASC and it looks cool. Get this.

BAS-D: Pop the popcorn in style with 3xuAC/5, 1xuAC10, super high mounts, pretty cool. Omnimech so you can do it with any chassis but the -D comes with everything you need, just like in real life.

Thanatos...I've seen people do ridiculous things with the stealth dual gauss one. One guy kept hiding "inside" dead mechs, loving impossible to get him, very impressed.

Fafnir can also be good, dual heavy gauss, quad uAC/5s, there are better mechs for both those builds though.

Do not get the Incubus or Black Lanner, you will regret this, or not, maybe you like them, in which case go for it, you weirdo.

TjyvTompa fucked around with this message at 09:21 on Mar 29, 2019

# ? Mar 29, 2019 08:58

peer: Jan 17, 2004; this is not what I wanted

pyf heavy gauss or dual heavy gauss carriers

fafnir, corsair, annihilator, what else

(champion is pretty good with hgauss and 6x ml)

edit: or even just regular dual gauss. I'll take em all

# ? Mar 29, 2019 13:36

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# ? Jun 10, 2024 08:11

WhiskeyJuvenile: Feb 15, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo

I like the cataphract

# ? Mar 29, 2019 14:26

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