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Squidster posted:The issue isn't that people dislike the archetype of the dumb sweet friend, it's that the character reached the end of his arc in season 1. His punchlines might vary a little, but there's no uncertainty with him, no chance of growth. Chidi and Eleanor are simply defined by their core struggles of Indecision and Selfishness, but they're both trying to overcome their nature. What's Jason working to overcome? Yeah, this. I don't dislike Jason or think he has zero depth, nor do I not understand the gags. I'm just mostly over the schtick because it's been three seasons and he has very little growth compared to, say, Tahani. Which is fine because Jason is in a good place as a person to not have much personal growth to do other than how dumb as a rock he is-- he's already a good person who seems to have always meant well, but always goofed it up. But that doesn't mean I can't be kinda bored by it lately.
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The only real problem with Jason is that they showed us his home and he actually seems to come from a cartoon world. All the other characters seem to have grown up in our world, where as Jason literally comes from a place with monster truck taxis.
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Senor Tron posted:The only real problem with Jason is that they showed us his home and he actually seems to come from a cartoon world. All the other characters seem to have grown up in our world, where as Jason literally comes from a place with monster truck taxis. Yeah, Florida. You've never been?
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Senor Tron posted:The only real problem with Jason is that they showed us his home and he actually seems to come from a cartoon world. All the other characters seem to have grown up in our world, where as Jason literally comes from a place with monster truck taxis. lol at this goon who has never lived in Real America
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Mar 22, 2019 05:48
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my last post might have sounded dismissive. but I legitimately know multiple dudes irl who have driven around at one point or another in trucks not too dissimilar to that taxi truck from the show. this is my lived experience as a former rural gas station attendant don't erase me
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also apologies for double post but i went out to the bar tonight (I don't usually) and encountered not zero, not one, but at the very minimum THREE Jasons one of them was an extremely solid guy who talked wif me at length about how smart his kids are and how he hopes they turn out smarter and more successful than him. good dude. america
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Cartoon Florida is almost certainly a glitch caused by Janet/Michael's presence on earth. It was a short journey.
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chidi's boot friend is also a cartoon man
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luxury handset posted:chidi's boot friend is also a cartoon man BOOT BUDDIES
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Florida is merely a parody of reality and TGP Florida its merely a parody of that. A parody of a parody if you will.
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Xelkelvos posted:Florida is merely a parody of reality and TGP Florida its merely a parody of that. A parody of a parody if you will. Well, America is a parody of itself for a while now.
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cant cook creole bream posted:Well, America is a parody of itself for a while now. not yet. When overlord Commissar Bernimir Sandropov finalizes full communism now, then america will be a parody of its former self.
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Senor Tron posted:The only real problem with Jason is that they showed us his home and he actually seems to come from a cartoon world. All the other characters seem to have grown up in our world, where as Jason literally comes from a place with monster truck taxis. I've done my time in Florida. If you told me somewhere in Florida was some kind of fledgling monster truck taxi service I wouldn't think twice. And if there isn't then someone should start it and make all the cash. I like Jason because he's sorta like Michael Scott, where he's a fool, but occasionally you see it's more blind spots and obliviousness then stupidity.
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Tristesse posted:Also we still don't know who the bad place is going to send to gently caress with him. An old guy that Pillboi ODed? The DJ with the speedboat? Burt Reynolds? They'll send him a love interest to mess with Janet.
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Sokani posted:They'll send him a love interest to mess with Janet. With her newly formed abilities to throw shade and hate things I would be happy to see that go down.
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Yeah while it might be somewhat redundant with Simone, an ex-girlfriend or even someone who just has immediate chemistry with Jason would be great because it would also screw with Janet which would throw a maaaajjjjorrr wrench in their plans, especially if she starts glitching
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I'd like if the mail room lady from the Good Place was a recurring character, and every time she showed up she got better at being angry because in her first episode it had just never happened before, and as the series goes on she gets practice. An angel-type character breaking her programming the same way Michael did but in the opposite direction.
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BioEnchanted posted:I'd like if the mail room lady from the Good Place was a recurring character, and every time she showed up she got better at being angry because in her first episode it had just never happened before, and as the series goes on she gets practice. An angel-type character breaking her programming the same way Michael did but in the opposite direction. She eventually turns into Trudy Judy and we get the Good Place/B99 crossover episode.
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BioEnchanted posted:I'd like if the mail room lady from the Good Place was a recurring character, and every time she showed up she got better at being angry because in her first episode it had just never happened before, and as the series goes on she gets practice. An angel-type character breaking her programming the same way Michael did but in the opposite direction.
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I'm amazed Jason gets so much stick for being shallow in a show with Chidi, who is just tv-neurosis.txt with people occasionally stopping to point out how attractive he is.
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I feel like Chidi was way more uptight in season 1 and 2 personally, but yeah he hasn't had much more growth than Jason. Chidi is also not one of my favourites along w Jason tbh. Tho they are both still great! Like I'm mostly splitting hairs when I complain about this show, b/c even the stuff I am not as hype on any more is still quality.
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Jason's challenge is some kinda Finance/Tech Bro that uses big and expensive words and is actually a real piece of poo poo, and it's up to the simple-ish but well meaning Jason to deal with it.
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Lutha Mahtin posted:yeah, i think the reason i have a soft spot for him is that have known a lot of Jasons during my life. i have known many dudes who weren't born into any privilege, and maybe they weren't the most educated or most talented, but deep down they were kind people who believed in trying to do the right thing, even if they messed up a lot I'm not even american and this holds true for me as well. There are jasons all around us
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I think the main problem with Jason as a character is that the show hasn't done anything to show that he has developed beyond his "initial sin". At the end of season 2 The Judge gives each character a test designed to test their main flaw. For Eleanor, it was selfishness. For Chidi, it was indecisiveness. For Tahani, it was caring too much what people (especially her family) think about her. For Jason we are specifically told that his main "sin" is poor impulse control. For his test he was more excited to play Madden than to even finish listening to the rules. Throughout season 3 we saw the other 3 main characters improve: Eleanor learns to embrace being part of a team and becomes less selfish; Tahani learns that fame and fortune isn't everything and repairs the relationship with her sister; and Chidi learns to relax and not be so indecisive due to his romance and exposure to Eleanor. But Jason is still the only one that the show hasn't really done much to show him overcome his impulsiveness. I think the show runners still think they are getting mileage out of keeping Jason as the lovable buffoon with a heart of gold but from a storytelling perspective he's still a pretty weak character compared to the growth the others have demonstrated.
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King of Foolians posted:I think the main problem with Jason as a character is that the show hasn't done anything to show that he has developed beyond his "initial sin". At the end of season 2 The Judge gives each character a test designed to test their main flaw. For Eleanor, it was selfishness. For Chidi, it was indecisiveness. For Tahani, it was caring too much what people (especially her family) think about her. For Jason we are specifically told that his main "sin" is poor impulse control. For his test he was more excited to play Madden than to even finish listening to the rules.
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tarlibone posted:Yeah, Florida. You've never been? I literally go to Sarasota almost every year and have gone to Orlando a few times, and... while the stereotypes are somewhat true, TGP takes them way, way, way farther than in reality as far as his impulsivity, I think Whalley nailed it: his impulsivity isn't actually his problem, so much as what he uses it towards, and his real change has been from selfishness to altruism
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:I literally go to Sarasota almost every year and have gone to Orlando a few times, and... while the stereotypes are somewhat true, TGP takes them way, way, way farther than in reality Going to Sarasota for the Florida experience is like going to The Hamptons for the New York experience (source: I grew up in Sarasota)
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:I literally go to Sarasota almost every year and have gone to Orlando a few times, and... while the stereotypes are somewhat true, TGP takes them way, way, way farther than in reality If you haven't been to the panhandle, you haven't been to Florida. You went to the rich people city and the tourist city. That's it.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:I literally go to Sarasota almost every year and have gone to Orlando a few times, and... while the stereotypes are somewhat true, TGP takes them way, way, way farther than in reality Mordiceius posted:If you haven't been to the panhandle, you haven't been to Florida. You went to the rich people city and the tourist city. That's it. Yea, remember that Jason is from Jacksonville specifically. If you go to Tampa/Orlando/Miami, you're not really getting the true Florida Man experience. And as Mordicelius and kumba said, Sarasota is for retired well off people, it's the least Florida Man environment ever, Florida Man thrives in poverty and youth. Also, it is a comedy show, of course it's exaggerating reality. E: VVV Yea if you go 5 minutes east of Orlando you're in Bithlo and hooo boy are you gonna have a time. WampaLord fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Mar 25, 2019 |
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You don't even have to go very far from Sarasota, Myakka City is like 20 minutes east and perfectly encapsulates rural Florida
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kumba posted:You don't even have to go very far from Sarasota, Myakka City is like 20 minutes east and perfectly encapsulates rural Florida basically twenty miles inland from literally any city on a coast (except maybe miami) will take you into Real Florida
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I mean the chunk around Siesta Key seems like it's mostly young potheads and Russians 
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I watched season 1 and 2 and started watching 3 last year, but then got busy with school, and now I just rewatched the whole show over two weeks. Can't wait for season 4 
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For anyone needing a fix, D'Arcy Carden is part of a pretty good skit on Last Week Tonight this week.
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There's also a new episode of the official Good Place podcast with Busy Philipps and Marc Evan Jackson talking about the show.
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Senor Tron posted:For anyone needing a fix, D'Arcy Carden is part of a pretty good skit on Last Week Tonight this week. "Not a homeowner."
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Senor Tron posted:For anyone needing a fix, D'Arcy Carden is part of a pretty good skit on Last Week Tonight this week. The outtakes at the end were pretty good.
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Senor Tron posted:For anyone needing a fix, D'Arcy Carden is part of a pretty good skit on Last Week Tonight this week. And Barry is airing again.
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