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Frog Act posted:it's extremely unlikely the Japanese population would have gone along with that, towards the end of the war there were several near-coups from the various generals who had been down with the conquest and establishment of fiefdoms throughout China but were concerned about waging an eternal existential war against the Americans. there probably wouldn't have ever been a conditional surrender but there were definitely factions who hoped for that. that being said, Japanese nationalists and right-wing hawks genuinely believed that the citizens of Japan would be willing to die en masse and propagandized the poo poo out of a glorious death, but there were plenty of people around who remembered a pre-insane nationalist era in Japanese and wouldn't go along with it The idea was that if the Americans suffered massive casualties in the invasion of Japan then they'd get too war weary to go on with the invasion and settle for a conditional surrender. The atomic bombs made the Japanese think that the Americans could destroy all of Japan with very little effort.
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Mar 22, 2019 21:43
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Outrail posted:This makes Australia's callously lazy defence plan for Japanese invasion even better. 'She'll be right mate. Retreat to the south of the country and wait for the Japanese supply lines to experience the welcoming bosom of thousands of kilometers of hostile desert devoid of food or water while we fire up the barbie.' . What if the Japanese just sailed around the country to the south?
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Mar 22, 2019 22:13
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imo, the narrative there is heavily colored by the same sort of orientalist racism that led Americans to attribute Chinese successes in Korea to "human wave attacks" on the one hand, yeah, the Japanese were arming civilians, gearing up suicide-attack training, and spreading propaganda calling for the civilian populace to sacrifice their lives to slow the enemy advance on the other hand, the British did essentially the same thing, but it's mostly remembered as an instance of heroic Churchillian pluck, rather than the "insane nationalists declaring a glorious national suicide" narrative that tends to dominate the talk of Japanese civilian defense plans it's doubtful how much either group would have lived up to the fanciful expectations of politicians. the effectiveness of Japanese propaganda on the Home Islands dropped a lot once the US had burned the country to the ground and sunk the navy
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Mar 22, 2019 22:17
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Main Paineframe posted:imo, the narrative there is heavily colored by the same sort of orientalist racism that led Americans to attribute Chinese successes in Korea to "human wave attacks" I guess the one difference is hadn’t the Japanese military run the public schools for a generation?
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Mar 22, 2019 22:20
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As I unloaded round after round of 2mm ProSHOT Airsoft ammo into the back of that pinko commie socialist teachers skull, I shidded and farded and camed in my department issued tactical SWAT-Wear camo pants.
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Mar 22, 2019 22:34
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Easy Diff posted:What if the Japanese just sailed around the country to the south? Through the American Navy dominated Pacific or British dominated South East Asia and Indian ocean? E: I honestly don't know the answer and just made that up but I'm 60% sure that's probably the answer.
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Mar 22, 2019 22:34
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Outrail posted:Through the American Navy dominated Pacific or British dominated South East Asia and Indian ocean? Depends on which part of the war you're talking about, the British forces in the area were hurting after Singapore fell.
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Mar 22, 2019 22:36
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https://twitter.com/NJTRANSIT/status/1108702325693124608
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Mar 22, 2019 22:56
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Outrail posted:Through the American Navy dominated Pacific or British dominated South East Asia and Indian ocean? I assume a scenario where Japan is invading Australia is a scenario where they have already won naval dominance in the region.
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Mar 22, 2019 23:13
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wait what the gently caress
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Mar 22, 2019 23:18
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qkkl posted:The idea was that if the Americans suffered massive casualties in the invasion of Japan then they'd get too war weary to go on with the invasion and settle for a conditional surrender. The atomic bombs made the Japanese think that the Americans could destroy all of Japan with very little effort. Even if an occult hand prevented the Americans from dropping bombs on all of Honshu, America could have starved them out. Sinking merchant shipping and in particular mining the harbours were very effective and some of the earliest criticism of the atomic bombings came from the guys who were doing just that and didn’t like being upstaged.
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Mar 22, 2019 23:20
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Taintrunner posted:wait what the gently caress https://twitter.com/NJTRANSIT/status/1108707460997619712
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Mar 22, 2019 23:26
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I don't know that it's dystopic, but lol at New Jersey for being so cheap as to farm out opening a train station to the minimum wage slaves working in the dunkin donuts stand.
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Mar 22, 2019 23:28
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Outsourcing essential government functions to unaccountable private businesses employing minimum wage slaves is very dystopic.
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Mar 22, 2019 23:31
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Nothus posted:I don't know that it's dystopic, but lol at New Jersey for being so cheap as to farm out opening a train station to the minimum wage slaves working in the dunkin donuts stand. It's exactly the sort of thing you'd see in Idiocracy. Public transport access controlled by a lovely fast food chain is pretty dystopic.
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Mar 22, 2019 23:34
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Main Paineframe posted:imo, the narrative there is heavily colored by the same sort of orientalist racism that led Americans to attribute Chinese successes in Korea to "human wave attacks" I think there's a difference between a civilian population RESISTING fascism and another FIGHTING FOR IT.
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Mar 22, 2019 23:36
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WrightOfWay posted:I assume a scenario where Japan is invading Australia is a scenario where they have already won naval dominance in the region. Why bother invading really? Australia never had an effective air force. If they had naval dominance then the correct strategy would to go someplace else and smile smugly as they surpassed Britain's efforts to turn Australia into an inescapable penal colony.
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Mar 22, 2019 23:53
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EasternBronze posted:I think there's a difference between a civilian population RESISTING fascism and another FIGHTING FOR IT. Not especially, when there’s a foreign power invading (no matter how justified it is) the politics kind of fall by the wayside.
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Mar 22, 2019 23:55
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General Dog posted:Not especially, when there’s a foreign power invading (no matter how justified it is) the politics kind of fall by the wayside. Do you love your country more than you hate the invading country?
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Mar 23, 2019 00:01
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VR and AR are such amazing and exciting technologies. Now you can add Childish Gambino dancing to "this is America" to your videos!
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Mar 23, 2019 18:54
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does he also kill your family members?
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Mar 23, 2019 23:04
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Rhesus Pieces posted:https://twitter.com/istamembers/status/1108461641400807424?s=21 This is one of the most wtf things I've seen lately. Searching for a silver lining, I'mma go with lol these fuckers are so goddamn dumb that they're gonna radicalize the white suburbs.
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Mar 23, 2019 23:26
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couple of pages late but lol at this smooth-brained retard
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Mar 24, 2019 01:09
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In lieu of any real legislation, accountability, or anything that would make sense for a reasonable form of government, police forces are beginning to be reined in by their insurance providers. https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2019/03/22/705914833/episode-901-bad-cops-are-expensive Because the more they're sued, the higher their insurance rates will be raised.
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Mar 24, 2019 06:07
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This really is the stupidest possible cyberpunk distopia.
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Mar 24, 2019 17:31
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The kicker on this is that the dude posting this is a brokebrained gamergate spin off who's only pointing it out to minimize his own harassment of Kelly Marie Tran
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Mar 24, 2019 17:54
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That is so incredibly hosed up. Someone approved of a donut chain to manage a portion of public transit and wasn't reprimanded for it?!?
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Mar 24, 2019 21:49
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Entorwellian posted:That is so incredibly hosed up. Someone approved of a donut chain to manage a portion of public transit and wasn't reprimanded for it?!? you’re thinking of this backwards, they were able to cut labor by making dunkin open the doors instead of paying a transit employee to do it. Winning!
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Mar 24, 2019 21:52
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i would bet money that the contract that says dunkin donuts has to open the subway station has no penalties if they fail to open it
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Mar 24, 2019 22:54
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It's not even some tiny roadside station, either.
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Mar 25, 2019 01:30
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SlothfulCobra posted:In lieu of any real legislation, accountability, or anything that would make sense for a reasonable form of government, police forces are beginning to be reined in by their insurance providers. accountability 2.0
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Mar 25, 2019 06:09
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SlothfulCobra posted:In lieu of any real legislation, accountability, or anything that would make sense for a reasonable form of government, police forces are beginning to be reined in by their insurance providers. finally, capitalism does something good
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Mar 25, 2019 07:26
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Entorwellian posted:That is so incredibly hosed up. Someone approved of a donut chain to manage a portion of public transit and wasn't reprimanded for it?!? even more hosed up: they own the place, instead of renting it from the city
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Mar 25, 2019 07:50
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https://twitter.com/nick_kapur/status/1110061889495674880
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Mar 25, 2019 07:54
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what a legend
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Mar 25, 2019 08:56
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He didn't steal money. He sent them bills and they paid them. This is completely on FB / Google.
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Mar 25, 2019 09:00
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Socks4Hands posted:what a legend
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Mar 25, 2019 09:00
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quote:He's agreed to forfeit about $50m. It's not clear what's happened to the other $73m, Sentenced to 30 years, I wonder how much he'll do.
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Mar 25, 2019 09:21
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jobson groeth posted:He didn't steal money. He sent them bills and they paid them. This is completely on FB / Google. I don’t think that’s how fraud works.
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Mar 25, 2019 10:49
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yeah the lightest charge he could have gotten was mail fraud. putting the money in a bank is wire fraud. transferring the money is laundering, which is just another wire fraud charge but under RICO statutes.
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