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I hope this thread sticks around, I don't want to know what the real Persona 5 thread looks like after that. 
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Miz Kriss posted:I can't wait to see Ryuji flail around like an idiot. I mean if you wanna see that you can just reread this LP!
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Feb 17, 2019 23:09
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I've never completed a new game+ playthrough of a Persona game. I've tried with 3,4, and 5 and I just end up losing interest around the second dungeon. So I'm interested to see what the game has left.
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loving love Fiona Apple posted:I've never completed a new game+ playthrough of a Persona game. I've tried with 3,4, and 5 and I just end up losing interest around the second dungeon. NG+ in P5 is nice because as long as you transfer enough money over you can immediately summon an insanely over leveled persona and smoke the first couple dungeons in a day, and since your skills are all maxed from the start you don't need to waste slots studying/bathing/etc which gives you a lot more leeway to gently caress around while still getting everybody to their max confidant rank. That said all the new free time did make me wish there was more to the date and hang out mechanics - you actually have time to take your waifu on dates in NG+ but they're super unbaked which is disappointing.
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Feb 18, 2019 02:00
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PMush Perfect posted:I hope this thread sticks around, I don't want to know what the real Persona 5 thread looks like after that. The P5 thread is pretty quiet but that is more because the main megami thread is where all this discussion is taking place.
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Feb 18, 2019 03:40
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Sydin posted:NG+ in P5 is nice because as long as you transfer enough money over you can immediately summon an insanely over leveled persona and smoke the first couple dungeons in a day, and since your skills are all maxed from the start you don't need to waste slots studying/bathing/etc which gives you a lot more leeway to gently caress around while still getting everybody to their max confidant rank. That said all the new free time did make me wish there was more to the date and hang out mechanics - you actually have time to take your waifu on dates in NG+ but they're super unbaked which is disappointing. Hey guess who didn't bring much money with him to ng+. This guy....
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Feb 18, 2019 03:56
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Sydin posted:NG+ in P5 is nice because as long as you transfer enough money over you can immediately summon an insanely over leveled persona and smoke the first couple dungeons in a day, and since your skills are all maxed from the start you don't need to waste slots studying/bathing/etc which gives you a lot more leeway to gently caress around while still getting everybody to their max confidant rank. That said all the new free time did make me wish there was more to the date and hang out mechanics - you actually have time to take your waifu on dates in NG+ but they're super unbaked which is disappointing. Not wasting time studying or bathing? Sounds like the goon way.
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Feb 18, 2019 17:02
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Ramos posted:Not wasting time studying or bathing? Sounds like the goon way. He’s changing hearts instead of changing clothes 
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Feb 18, 2019 19:28
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And on NG+ you can break up the mementos/palace trips across several days. As the developers likely intended you to do.
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Feb 18, 2019 19:37
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Manic_Misanthrope posted:And on NG+ you can break up the mementos/palace trips across several days. As the developers likely intended you to do. I mean you can do that. Or, you can spend everyday getting swole as gently caress at the gym! Who needs to summon a Persona when you can just beat the shadows to death with your bare hands.
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Well, that was certainly an interesting two-month sabbatical! Without working on this LP as the sole motivator and constant in my life, I fell into a rapid depressive spiral that completely derailed my life and that I only very recently managed to escape! Oh, and Katsura Hashino really stepped in it this time with that Catherine rerelease, and Atlus decided not to dub Persona Q2, so this franchise isn’t exactly doing too hot at the moment either. It seems like maybe Persona 5 is truly over. That doesn’t mean I can’t wring the few remaining drops of life essence in this game and turn them into questionable comedic choices for all of you, though!  Well, let’s head back in.  We could just load our clear data and continue on to New Game+, but I have something I need to take care of before we can go ahead with that.  So, let’s reload from Qliphoth World, the last chance we had to fight.  We’re not actually here to fight, though.  That’s right, it’s time for… Addendum I: Another Goddamn Fusion Episode Your prayers have been answered.  First up, Futsunushi from Mot and Cybele.   I am the god of the swords which once conquered this land. I shall temper the blade of your heart. Futsunushi is the Shinto god of swords, and considered to be the personification of one himself. ‘Nuff said. Futsunushi came with the skill Ali Dance, which doubles evasion against all incoming attacks. That’s a pretty great skill. We replaced it with a later skill it learned, however. That skill is Firm Stance, which is probably even more broken. You can’t dodge… but you take half damage from everything. It’s the inverse of Ali Dance, and it rules as long as you don’t have a glaring weakness to an element the enemy is using.  Next, Okuninushi from Lachesis and Power. It’s far too low to be useful anymore, but we don’t want it to use, but to fuse.   My sword, my bow… These tools which formed this fine land shall now grant you power as a mask. Okuninushi is… this wiki summary is very long, holy poo poo. I’m not reading this. What’s the in-game version? “A Kunitsu deity of Japanese mythology that governs agriculture and medicine. He's said to have built the country of Izumo with Susano-o's daughter, Suseri-Hime." Yeah, that works.  Now, Yatagarasu from Mara and Hell Biker.   Can you sense this noble aura? In that case, I shall become a mask and lead you on… Follow me.  Yatagarasu is a three-legged crow from Japanese mythology that represents divine intervention in human affairs. Also, nobody knows what the gently caress its actual deal is because none of its appearances in the mythology are explained or even consistent. Awesome. Apparently even the “three legs” bit is of debatable veracity and probably just got stolen from a Chinese deity, welp.  Now, this is why we’re here. In Persona 4, Yoshitsune was pretty much the one broken god-tier Persona you used to just clown on everything, to the point where I actively avoided fusing it until the bonus boss of Golden pretty much made me by being so far above everything else in that game challenge-wise. This is because of its unique skill, Hassou Tobi, as well as its lack of weaknesses. That is still the case in Persona 5, you will find. We’ll go into just what Hassou Tobi is later, but let’s just fuse it for now. Yoshitsune is a special five-way fusion from Shiki-Ouji, Futsunushi, Okuninushi, Yatagarasu, and Arahabaki. We pay 61,619 yen to fuse above our level.   I see you know of my ingenious feats. Rejoice, for I shall graciously become your mask…  Yoshitsune was a Japanese general of the Minamoto clan during the late Heian period, and gained renown for his skill. He became emperor before being betrayed and forced to take his own life. The developers anticipated that we’re pretty much just here to make poo poo blow up, and locked Hassou Tobi so deep into Yoshitsune’s skill list you can’t get it even with everything maxed. It seems like we need to grind… but there’s another way around this.  We haven’t used Gallows in forever because there was just no reason to. We didn’t need experience on many specific Personas, and the skill acquisition would be useful if it wasn’t so unreliable. Here, though, it’s perfect. 48000 experience would take at least 15 minutes of running around and grinding, quite possibly more. This simplifies the matter greatly.    We get over 100k for Moloch, and no, I have no idea how that’s determined. I tried Zaou-Gongen, who was 21 levels higher, and got less experience from it. It’s bananas.    Yoshi leveled up twice and got Hassou Tobi out of it. We’ll put it to work in a second.  We’re not done yet. Gabriel from Thor and Nebiros. We pay 84,700 yen to fuse above our level.   I am Gabriel. As your mask, I now declare the birth of your newfound power... Gabriel is "one of the four major archangels. She is also the only female angel at this rank. Her name comes from the Sumerian word for ‘governor.’ She is the angel who told Mary of her pregnancy." She’s a high-ranking messenger angel in the Abrahamic religions, and in Islam is the highest-ranking angel, who revealed the Qur’an to Muhammad. Depictions of her as female are hotly debated amongst scholars.  Now, we fuse Michael, our final goal for today, in a special fusion from Gabriel, Raphael, and Uriel. We pay 109,619 yen to fuse above our level. We are also running dangerously low on funds! I only have 300k left in my massive pockets from the 1.2 million I had near the end of the game due to my boneheaded decision to resummon some of the Personas I fused away here.   I am Michael. In the name of the light within you, I shall become your mask.  Michael is the fourth and final archangel, viewed as the field commander of the army of God. But we also didn’t fuse Michael to use him in battle. At least, not yet. We’ll get to that in a minute.  Talking to Lavenza again at this point will give us this message.  It seems there are only a few blank pages left in the Persona Compendium. To show our respect for your extraordinary efforts, allow me to grant you a small reward. I will apply an even bigger discount to the cost of summoning Personas from the Compendium. You may have what it takes to fill this Compendium completely one day. Your enemy is that evil god… Train your Personas as you desire. One cannot be over-prepared. Please bear that in mind.Thanks, Lavenza. That discount increases the savings from 15% to 25% whenever we pull a Persona from the Compendium. But back to Michael.  We’re not here for his frankly absurd stats and skills. No, we’re here for something even better… stupid bullshit that breaks the game.  If you go over to the Electric Chair screen to itemize a Persona, you’ll see this next to Michael’s name. Now, most people probably wouldn’t dare throwing away the Persona they just dropped 100k just to fuse, but if we take a closer look.  Jesus loving christ. So, yeah. +10 to all stats. For the character we already never took out of our party due to sheer unfailing usefulness. What the poo poo.  Bye, Michael!  And hellooooooooo, gun!  This is so duuuuuuuuuuuumb, I love it!  So let’s do the ending sequence again. This is with Matarukaja, by the way. I also think the Grail takes more damage than normal enemies (Yaldy takes less, for the record), so factor that in.  So, this is Hassou Tobi. Eight Light Physical strikes to all targets. A lotta buildup for something that maybe doesn’t seem immediately broken, but I assure you…  It is.  That Hassou Tobi was Matarukaja’d and Charged. So was this God’s Hand from Ryuji. The latter dealt 1632 damage, while the former dealt… *crunches numbers* …3067. That’s an 88% increase.  Granted, Ryuji’s Strength is lower… by seven. Not enough to explain that poo poo!So yeah. we clown this dude. Now we just get to go through the entire ending again, which takes about forty-five minutes, hooraaaaaaaaaay!          Let’s just cut to the end.    And now we’re finally ready for New Game+. I can just relax and take my time with these, not like there’s any more of this poo poo coming, heh.  GOD DAMMIT
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Mar 23, 2019 13:06
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygyz3Mqjh0k Female Joker means yuri and you know I'm all about that. Also for the millions who wanted to date Yusuke, your prayers have been answered.
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Mar 23, 2019 13:07
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Arist posted:Without working on this LP as the sole motivator and constant in my life, I fell into a rapid depressive spiral that completely derailed my life and that I only very recently managed to escape! This may be a joke but if it's not please get some help and stay healthy 
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SoundwaveAU posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygyz3Mqjh0k This doesnt seem to be a female Main character tho. Or at least not a stand-in for Joker? Also... what? DeafNote fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Mar 23, 2019 |
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Mar 23, 2019 15:20
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sudonim posted:This may be a joke but if it's not please get some help and stay healthy I'm all right, I've been seeing someone, I really just included that sentence to give some resolution to my post from a month ago where I mentioned it. Anyway, I'm gonna try to keep any bonus stuff semi-regularly updated, but I'm still figuring some of that stuff out and have not even started recording into New Game+ yet! Updates won't be nearly as quick as they were for the main game is what I'm saying, I wanna get back into the swing of things and I'm also busy next week.
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Mar 23, 2019 16:13
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Apparently the Red Girl doesn't like the Phantom Thieves. So Royal might be a sidequel. Or Golden with multiple MCs.
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Mar 23, 2019 18:15
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Or she might just be the new Marie.
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Mar 23, 2019 18:21
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She's the final boss beyond God.
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Mar 23, 2019 18:24
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Arist posted:
I don't think there's a single religious work that identifies Gabriel as a lady, and many that use masculine pronouns. (That said, Angels are genderless and sexless in Judaism, at least, they just show up as dudes on earth because their real appearances are loving wild. In Judaism, Michael is also identified as the angel responsible for watching over the Jews, which obviously plays poorly with the supersessionists.) I don't think any scholars contend otherwise, it's mostly just that having 4 dude archangels is boring. Also yeah someone translated what the girl was saying, she doesn't like the thieves. Jen X fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Mar 23, 2019 |
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Mar 23, 2019 19:01
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GeneX posted:I don't think there's a single religious work that identifies Gabriel as a lady, and many that use masculine pronouns. (That said, Angels are genderless and sexless in Judaism, at least, they just show up as dudes on earth because their real appearances are loving wild. In Judaism, Michael is also identified as the angel responsible for watching over the Jews, which obviously plays poorly with the supersessionists.) I'm just going off the wiki and the in-game descriptions, sounds like someone was editorializing a bit
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loving love Fiona Apple posted:Or she might just be the new Marie. Dear god no. Characterwise no. Bosswise NO
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DeafNote posted:Dear god no. I liked Marie. Eden Riegel did a great job as her, and some of her poems are so over the top, it's intended to be funny-and I did find them funny! Also, while I understand why people didn't like the Hollow Forest, I found it kind of interesting.
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Mar 23, 2019 20:13
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I'd love this sudden image to be a clue for a female playthrough in the making, but it would mean a lot more voice acting and screenwriting to make it happen. Looking at Kamoshida in particular since his arc in this playthrough means she (read: you) are likely to be subject to his advances, at least.
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Mar 23, 2019 20:44
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Arist posted:I'm just going off the wiki and the in-game descriptions, sounds like someone was editorializing a bit oh probably, Gabriel as a lady in japanese works that crib from gnosticism and sort of hazily abrahamic mythology (islam, judaism, christianity, baha'i) is a Thing also renaissance painters loved androgyny so that might be part of the reason for it anyway maybe p5r will get rid of the human gay jokes and make morgana less horny for ann, here's hoping
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Mar 23, 2019 21:20
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I don't know what to think about all these subgames just getting a single letter difference. It's a very stylish, modern feel to it, at least.
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Mar 23, 2019 21:20
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Good to hear from you Arist! Sorry to hear about the down-spiral, they take a lot out of you.
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Mar 23, 2019 21:25
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I just played DMCV, and I completely forgot that "Qlipoth" showed up here too.
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Mar 23, 2019 21:27
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That is a nice looking R.
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Mar 23, 2019 21:51
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I'd be very surprised if it was a Female Protagonist option, considering the sheer amount of dialogue and scenes that would need to be completely altered. At that point you might as well just start on P6 and have a female protag from the start. My "big" hope for P5R is that Akechi stays loving dead, or at least ambiguously dead. If Atlus caves to fans and has him give in to the ~power of friendship~ and the PT's actually forgive him for all his atrocities, then I will be extremely mad.
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Sydin posted:I'd be very surprised if it was a Female Protagonist option, considering the sheer amount of dialogue and scenes that would need to be completely altered. At that point you might as well just start on P6 and have a female protag from the start. I think her design's too generic to not be an MC, but maybe she'll star in a shorter mini-story like the Answer from Persona 3 FES.
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Grouchio posted:Apparently the Red Girl doesn't like the Phantom Thieves. So Royal might be a sidequel. Or Golden with multiple MCs. Royal is actually the adventure of Akechi’s good girl crime stopper squad.
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I can't believe Arist is gonna spend the rest of his life LPing P5-related stuff.
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I do wish there could be a FemPC edition of this game, but it's true that that's too much to expect. I would happily settle for well-handled gay romances, which wouldn't take nearly as much rewriting or voice-acting and SHOULD have been in the vanilla version. But I'm not sure I could trust the dev team that wrote those travesties in Shinjuku to write compelling gay romances that don't resort to hurtful stereotypes or queerbaiting. I'd be delighted to be proven wrong, though.
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Clarste posted:I think her design's too generic to not be an MC, but maybe she'll star in a shorter mini-story like the Answer from Persona 3 FES. She’s def not the female equivalent of Maaku, since the pin on the collar of her Shujin uniform in the trailer shows that she’s a first year, and Maaku was a 2nd year. I doubt they’d rewrite all of the school and class sections to make that change just for a FeMC (they’d have to change Kawakami as your homeroom teacher and possibly the others, plus Ann wouldn’t be in your class as she’s also a second year, among other things, and Ryuji isn’t in your grade anymore either). Way too much work there for that.
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Mar 24, 2019 09:44
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I want to hope it's a FeMC, but yeah, given Atlus's recent track record, Marie: Back 2 the Sueture seems a lot more likely.
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GhostStalker posted:She’s def not the female equivalent of Maaku, since the pin on the collar of her Shujin uniform in the trailer shows that she’s a first year, and Maaku was a 2nd year. Yea, that's exactly why I said she might star in a mini-story, as opposed to replacing Joker. I still think having her be another Marie is unlikely because her design is boring as gently caress and gives you no hints to her personality.
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Mar 24, 2019 14:46
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Clarste posted:Marie is unlikely Clarste posted:boring as gently caress 
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Mar 24, 2019 17:39
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Whatever else you think about Marie, her design is not boring, and that's what he was specifying.
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Mar 24, 2019 17:56
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DanielCross posted:Whatever else you think about Marie, her design is not boring, and that's what he was specifying. 
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Watch as instead of female MC, we'll get female Akechi
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