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Mantis42: Jul 26, 2010

SirPablo posted:

Season ten was complete trash.

Max Power tho

# ? Mar 22, 2019 10:02

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# ? May 24, 2024 16:42

Brofessor Slayton: Jan 1, 2012

super sweet best pal posted:

I hope the moment he dies the Simpsons writers start having Lisa eat meat again.

There's apparently an episode where Lunchlady Doris convinces Lisa to add bugs to her diet.

I looked it up and the description cut off at a point where I thought it might also be the Fit Tony one. It's not, but that wouldn't have been a surprise at this point.

I miss when we could have "which of these awful Simspons episodes is fake?" without them all turning out to be real.

# ? Mar 22, 2019 10:42

bitterandtwisted: Sep 4, 2006

P&tP was a funny episode, but it was where the characters became props to hang jokes on instead of people the audience is expected to care about. And you can still have a decent show by doing that so long as the jokes are good, but those also turned to poo poo soon after.

# ? Mar 22, 2019 11:18

Iron Crowned: May 6, 2003; by Hand Knit

bitterandtwisted posted:

P&tP was a funny episode, but it was where the characters became props to hang jokes on instead of people the audience is expected to care about. And you can still have a decent show by doing that so long as the jokes are good, but those also turned to poo poo soon after.

It really is an all around good episode, but it's the moment when someone set the show to evil.

# ? Mar 22, 2019 12:31

LouisF: Mar 16, 2019; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

CodfishCartographer posted:

Up yours, children.

DUNDUNDUNDUN-DUN-DUN-DUNDUNDUN

# ? Mar 22, 2019 14:43

LouisF: Mar 16, 2019; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

had a shot of bourbon. lets get back to comedy.

principal artamaran catches nelson smosking meth in his locker.

meanwhile, lou becomes chief for the day while babysitting ralph

# ? Mar 22, 2019 15:28

dads_work_files: May 14, 2008; important_document.avi

I wonder, if they found a "lost" script from the 90s and produced it today, if it would stand out as a particularly good episode, or if we're all so soured on the modern Simpsons that it would go unnoticed

# ? Mar 22, 2019 17:06

Iron Crowned: May 6, 2003; by Hand Knit

dads_work_files posted:

I wonder, if they found a "lost" script from the 90s and produced it today, if it would stand out as a particularly good episode, or if we're all so soured on the modern Simpsons that it would go unnoticed

Maybe it was "lost" for a reason

# ? Mar 22, 2019 17:15

Pawg From Produce: Feb 11, 2019; by FactsAreUseless

They kind of did that with a Judd Apatow spec script written during the earliest seasons, but unfortunately they didn't leave well enough alone and produce it as-is.

# ? Mar 22, 2019 17:30

Farmer Crack-Ass: Jan 2, 2001; this is me posting irl

what's the episode where moe thinks he's got aids, and instead it turns out he's just got mesothelioma from all the asbestos in his bar

# ? Mar 22, 2019 17:51

A Fancy Hat: Nov 18, 2016; Always remember that the former President was dumber than the dumbest person you've ever met by a wide margin

dads_work_files posted:

I wonder, if they found a "lost" script from the 90s and produced it today, if it would stand out as a particularly good episode, or if we're all so soured on the modern Simpsons that it would go unnoticed

They'd have to get rid of Lionel Hutz and/or Troy McClure so we'd potentially be missing a lot of good jokes.

And it would still have the really lifeless animation of the modern episodes so a lot of good visual gags would fall flat.

# ? Mar 22, 2019 17:56

LouisF: Mar 16, 2019; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

what's the episode where moe thinks he's got aids, and instead it turns out he's just got mesothelioma from all the asbestos in his bar

# ? Mar 22, 2019 18:02

SeANMcBAY: Jun 28, 2006; Look on the bright side.

A Fancy Hat posted:

They'd have to get rid of Lionel Hutz and/or Troy McClure so we'd potentially be missing a lot of good jokes.

And it would still have the really lifeless animation of the modern episodes so a lot of good visual gags would fall flat.

Also the voice acting isn�t as good and the modern staff would �punch up� the script with poo poo.

# ? Mar 22, 2019 18:19

Riptor: Apr 13, 2003; here's to feelin' good all the time

A Fancy Hat posted:

They'd have to get rid of Lionel Hutz and/or Troy McClure so we'd potentially be missing a lot of good jokes.

I still think you guys are way overestimating how big of a part these characters were back in the day. Part of what made them so great, beyond Hartman being incredible, was how sparingly and smartly they were used

# ? Mar 22, 2019 18:33

SeANMcBAY: Jun 28, 2006; Look on the bright side.

Riptor posted:

I still think you guys are way overestimating how big of a part these characters were back in the day. Part of what made them so great, beyond Hartman being incredible, was how sparingly and smartly they were used

It felt like they were trying to expand Hutz near the end with him having a real estate job. I think I remember reading that the plan was to have him show up with different jobs going forward.

# ? Mar 22, 2019 18:36

Iron Crowned: May 6, 2003; by Hand Knit

SeANMcBAY posted:

It felt like they were trying to expand Hutz near the end with him having a real estate job. I think I remember reading that the plan was to have him show up with different jobs going forward.

So, he was replaced with Gil?

# ? Mar 22, 2019 18:50

SeANMcBAY: Jun 28, 2006; Look on the bright side.

Iron Crowned posted:

So, he was replaced with Gil?

Pretty much. It�s interesting how Gil debuts in Hutz�s last episode in hindsight.

# ? Mar 22, 2019 18:55

Razorwired: Dec 7, 2008; It's about to start!

They do a similar gag in Futurama. The same sketchy guy runs the robot fights, butterfly brawls, etc.

# ? Mar 22, 2019 19:09

Data Graham: Dec 28, 2009; 📈📊🍪😋

And Ken Adelberg in Home Movies

# ? Mar 22, 2019 19:20

Harold Stassen: Jan 24, 2016

Data Graham posted:

And Ken Adelberg in Home Movies

Hm, I must have missed that Simpsons episode

# ? Mar 22, 2019 22:54

LouisF: Mar 16, 2019; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

that time bob oblong sued homer for waste dumping nuclear material into the towns "
local watering hole"

# ? Mar 22, 2019 22:57

PostNouveau: Sep 3, 2011; VY till I die; Grimey Drawer

SeANMcBAY posted:

Pretty much. It’s interesting how Gil debuts in Hutz’s last episode in hindsight.

Not his last, but it's very close.

Gil is a good character. He just suffers from the comparison.

Edit: oh I misread that I thought you were talking Hartman's last episode

# ? Mar 23, 2019 04:08

SeANMcBAY: Jun 28, 2006; Look on the bright side.

PostNouveau posted:

Not his last, but it's very close.

Gil is a good character. He just suffers from the comparison.

Edit: oh I misread that I thought you were talking Hartman's last episode

Yeah, I meant Hutz�s last speaking role. I know Troy McClure shows up in a later one.

# ? Mar 23, 2019 06:44

Filthy Haiku: Oct 22, 2010; i am shattering like glass

but at least
i have

springy ride

It's weird that people get down on Principal and the Pauper for being an episode where they got a little bit fast and loose with their established characters when Hurricane Ned did the exact same thing.

I guess it's just because Skinner is a more beloved side character; but I feel like Hurricane Ned started the change from "so much better than you that you hate him" Ned to "Crazed zealot" Ned Flanders. Seymour kept his established traits; Ned slowly morphed into something completely different.

Excellent episode though.

# ? Mar 23, 2019 08:20

spaceblancmange: Apr 19, 2018; #essereFerrari

The Vegas episode hosed with the character of Flanders more.

# ? Mar 23, 2019 08:25

Harold Stassen: Jan 24, 2016

White wine spritzer!

I didn't think Hurricane Neddy or Viva Ned Flanders were inconsistent- in Vegas, the whole episode is based around Homer coercing Ned to act against his own instincts, so the "change" (which doesn't last) isn't coming from internally.

With Ned's freak-out after the hurricane, we saw a little bit of that frustration in Homer Loves Flanders (one of my all time favs) where he loses his poo poo in church- it just gave a little more backstory and was something that neither needed to be walked back or mentioned again. Also, his beatnik parents are from an earlier episode so there's really nothing in this episode that goes against anything already established.

:goonsay:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oicDiFsW1_s

e: meant to add also the zealous tendency shows up in the episode where the Simpsons kids are put in foster care of the Flandereseses

it's not wrong, but overall all the best side characters have been boiled down to their own tropes and stereotypes and Ned is no exception

Harold Stassen fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Mar 23, 2019

# ? Mar 23, 2019 08:48

Nonviolent J: Jul 20, 2006; by FactsAreUseless; Soiled Meat

# ? Mar 23, 2019 10:15

SeANMcBAY: Jun 28, 2006; Look on the bright side.

Nonviolent J posted:

I�m 60.

# ? Mar 23, 2019 10:44

Milo and POTUS: Sep 3, 2017; I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Nonviolent J posted:

talk about a low point

# ? Mar 23, 2019 11:39

Mr Interweb: Aug 25, 2004

Filthy Haiku posted:

It's weird that people get down on Principal and the Pauper for being an episode where they got a little bit fast and loose with their established characters when Hurricane Ned did the exact same thing.

I guess it's just because Skinner is a more beloved side character; but I feel like Hurricane Ned started the change from "so much better than you that you hate him" Ned to "Crazed zealot" Ned Flanders. Seymour kept his established traits; Ned slowly morphed into something completely different.

Excellent episode though.

Uh...I like both episodes but those two plots are not remotely similar at all, lol. One was providing a sensible backstory to why a character acts the way he does, while the other tried to tell the audience that a beloved character never truly existed and was actually a farce this entire time.

No, the real problem with Hurricane Ned was that the spanking program explains his lack of anger, but it doesn't explain why that necessarily caused him to be a Bible thumper.

# ? Mar 23, 2019 11:44

sinnesloeschen: Jun 4, 2011; fiiiiiiinnnne

SeANMcBAY posted:

It�s a good podcast. One of the hosts is longtime front page writer Bob Mackey.

Wow! A Bob Mackey!

# ? Mar 23, 2019 13:56

sinnesloeschen: Jun 4, 2011; fiiiiiiinnnne

Skrill.exe posted:

Wow! A Bob Mackey.

drat it

# ? Mar 23, 2019 13:57

Phlegmish: Jul 2, 2011

Cubone posted:

milhouse's parents getting divorced and staying divorced at the end of the episode was hilarious exactly because by sitcom logic it shouldn't have happened

"can I borrow a feeling" was perfect set-up and pay-off for getting them back together and luann was just like EW NO.

You know, now that I'm older the 'X days without a suicide' joke is kind of messed up

# ? Mar 23, 2019 14:28

Last Chance: Dec 31, 2004

Phlegmish posted:

You know, now that I'm older the 'X days without a suicide' joke is kind of messed up

Yeah that's the point

# ? Mar 23, 2019 14:43

Applewhite: Aug 16, 2014; by vyelkin; Nap Ghost

Phlegmish posted:

You know, now that I'm older the 'X days without a suicide' joke is kind of messed up

Had occasion to visit an acquaintance who was living in a divorced mens' colony. They're every bit as depressing as they're portrayed in that ep and a little worse. All the cleaning supplies were kept locked up so the residents couldn't drink the bleach and poo poo.

# ? Mar 23, 2019 15:03