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babypolis
Nov 4, 2009

Dapper_Swindler posted:



this is what the 5th edition had to say about them. it was written in tandem with bloodlines 2 after paradox bought the IP. i want to pick up the soursebook now along with the old cyberpunk 2020 one.

i found this comment.

this owns

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Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

But Reddit themselves didn't do actual moderation, the jailbait poo poo was like, 2011 or 2012

"Non employee moderators" just means the people who run the subs that's not Reddit moderating their site

Edit r/jailbait shut down october 2011 which means the campaign to shut the rest down was 2012

oh I misunderstood “Reddit moderating” to be like “pie eating contest” not “cat eating mouse”. yeah.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

But Reddit themselves didn't do actual moderation, the jailbait poo poo was like, 2011 or 2012

"Non employee moderators" just means the people who run the subs that's not Reddit moderating their site

Edit r/jailbait shut down october 2011 which means the campaign to shut the rest down was 2012

The reddit Pedocaust was primarily carried out over the course of 2012, and was a sight to see. Pity I haven't saved the thread itself, nor can easily find it archived.

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe

Dapper_Swindler posted:



this is what the 5th edition had to say about them. it was written in tandem with bloodlines 2 after paradox bought the IP. i want to pick up the soursebook now along with the old cyberpunk 2020 one.

i found this comment.

fuuuuck I'm so happy to see good white wolf and VTM back.

One of the coolest fictional settings ever, it made me sad to see it wasted.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Deified Data posted:

fuuuuck I'm so happy to see good white wolf and VTM back.

One of the coolest fictional settings ever, it made me sad to see it wasted.

didnt white wolf have some massive chud problems a year or so ago? i mean it seems like they fixed the poo poo and i can't wait to dig into the setting more.

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe

Dapper_Swindler posted:

didnt white wolf have some massive chud problems a year or so ago? i mean it seems like they fixed the poo poo and i can't wait to dig into the setting more.

Yes, they were run by nazis fairly recently until the paradox buy-out, hence the awesome, overt condemnation there.

e. I think I better understand your question now, and should specify that no, it was not always a chud thing, the chud thing was a relatively recent development in the history of the property.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Captain_Maclaine posted:

The reddit Pedocaust was primarily carried out over the course of 2012, and was a sight to see. Pity I haven't saved the thread itself, nor can easily find it archived.

It's in the gold mine and if you search uh r/3dbabyweiners I think google finds it

The real highlight of it was trolling the free internet act, a communally drafted bill that amounted to "if it's online it ain't a crime" that they put together in a public Google doc

I would come home from working at FedEx and hang out in irc with people and get drunk and edit their stupid bill to be about funk

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Captain_Maclaine posted:

The reddit Pedocaust was primarily carried out over the course of 2012, and was a sight to see. Pity I haven't saved the thread itself, nor can easily find it archived.

Dunno why this thread doesn't show up on google but:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3466025&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1

To Catch a Redditor is a :chefskiss: thread title.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Deified Data posted:

Yes, they were run by nazis fairly recently until the paradox buy-out, hence the awesome, overt condemnation there.

e. I think I better understand your question now, and should specify that no, it was not always a chud thing, the chud thing was a relatively recent development in the history of the property.

The Nazi edition was after paradox bought them though

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Hellsau posted:

Dunno why this thread doesn't show up on google but:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3466025&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1

To Catch a Redditor is a :chefskiss: thread title.


quote:

Yes, and I fear they will turn this effort to enact the next version of SOPA.

Still gently caress child porn and anyone who has anything to do with it.

Inevitable legislative response indeed

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
I don't get VTM's popularity. It seems like whenever people play it, they're just catty and dramatic and edgy. It's like petty high school bullshit.

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

i cannot take a lot of metal seriously because the subject matter is so goofy. the only stuff i've ever really listened to that much is like devin townsend and strapping young lad and bands like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9hXyT3nRa8

you know these guys are like "we want to make music that sounds like dungeons and dragons from the 1970s"

summoning is really good. i like them. they are also explicitly antifascist.

dear friend, ice wizard is a pretty metal bad guy, but he is no Brad and cannot conjure the intense dread of the modern office space

https://youtu.be/KsMKOx6fumc

and if you like Anneke, who’s worked with Townsend, she performed in a duet in one of the best releases last year

https://youtu.be/Jg2VqUTNjsw

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

It's in the gold mine and if you search uh r/3dbabyweiners I think google finds it

Right! I'd forgotten Lowtax renamed it that somewhere along the way, lol.

Phi230 posted:

I don't get VTM's popularity. It seems like whenever people play it, they're just catty and dramatic and edgy. It's like petty high school bullshit.

If you enjoy roleplaying games, you will at least pass through a period where you want to wallow in angst and there is no one who did that as well as White Wolf back in the late 90s.

fabergay egg
Mar 1, 2012

it's not a rhetorical question, for politely saying 'you are an idiot, you don't know what you are talking about'


Phi230 posted:

I don't get VTM's popularity. It seems like whenever people play it, they're just catty and dramatic and edgy. It's like petty high school bullshit.

that's what goths like

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



Phi230 posted:

I don't get VTM's popularity. It seems like whenever people play it, they're just catty and dramatic and edgy. It's like petty high school bullshit.

I'm pretty sure you just described 90% of workplaces as well. At least 90% of the workplaces I've been have felt like petty high school bullshit all over again, except with people who have worked there for decades.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
the secret to life is petty high school bullshit never really stops

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

Phi230 posted:

I don't get VTM's popularity. It seems like whenever people play it, they're just catty and dramatic and edgy. It's like petty high school bullshit.

it is an uninteresting setting/property but vampires are viscerally interesting and whatever roleplaying game conquered the niche fully was always going to be popular

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

CharlestheHammer posted:

the secret to life is petty high school bullshit never really stops

This is also true.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


cargo cult posted:

steve huffman is a survivalist prepper and hes publicly said stuff like how hell emerge as a leader after the collapse lol. idk if hes actively involved in moderating the site tho

I like to imagine steve huffman emerging from his doomsday cacoon arms spread to embrace his role of messiah of the new world.

Only to be immediately eaten by a mutant.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Snowy posted:

metal is always nerdy, and that’s fine by me :black101:

Indeed

Between Led Zeppelin making Lord of the Rings references and Christopher Lee doing a metal album, it's always been this fission of rock and nerd

Captain_Maclaine posted:

They were everything freaks. I have a hard time thinking of a substance Lemmy didn't abuse at some point.

Strychnine?

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006
Masquerade sucks compared to Requiem hth

Former DILF
Jul 13, 2017

Dark Age is where its at

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

I'm not willing to bet against it.

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:

Masquerade sucks compared to Requiem hth

:getout:

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:

Masquerade sucks compared to Requiem hth

let the grandpas have their 90s nostalgia

Former DILF
Jul 13, 2017

i will never ever ever give up THAC0

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010


Even if they are "just" satanist, that 100% means they're liberals and therefore horrible.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
Everyone knows Lordi is the hardest tensile strength

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Jerry Cotton posted:

Even if they are "just" satanist, that 100% means they're liberals and therefore horrible.

I thought satanists were actually libertarians, thus also horrible

jobson groeth
May 17, 2018

by FactsAreUseless

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I thought satanists were actually libertarians, thus also horrible

Depends on the branch of Satanism. Some are horrible Randians. Others are just in it to gently caress with Christians who put up religious icons in public places.

Ugato
Apr 9, 2009

We're not?

Former DILF posted:

poo poo wee wee doo doo pee pee

Ugato
Apr 9, 2009

We're not?

jobson groeth posted:

Depends on the branch of Satanism. Some are horrible Randians. Others are just in it to gently caress with Christians who put up religious icons in public places.

the last group are usually pretty fun

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog

jobson groeth posted:

Depends on the branch of Satanism. Some are horrible Randians. Others are just in it to gently caress with Christians who put up religious icons in public places.

Church of Satan vs Satanic Temple.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I thought satanists were actually libertarians, thus also horrible

I'm not American or an imbecile so I don't use the word libertarian :tipshat:

e: Why is there no :smughat:?

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

Captain_Maclaine posted:

I'm not willing to bet against it.


:getout:

NuWoD is so much better than the old stuff. Covenants do a way better job of showing you how vampire society works and if you're a Carthian you can literally use the Spirit of Communism to make Capitalists in your city suffer.

C2C - 2.0
May 14, 2006

Dubs In The Key Of Life


Lipstick Apathy
I always dug Werewolf: The Apocalypse, at least insofar as I never played any White Wolf games but did enjoy reading the source books.

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

C2C - 2.0 posted:

I always dug Werewolf: The Apocalypse, at least insofar as I never played any White Wolf games but did enjoy reading the source books.

One of the werewolf tribes had the power to turn a cardboard box into a perfectly comfortable living space, to pull magically intact food and drink out any garbage can, and to summon the car from the Dukes of Hazard as a totemic spirit.

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog
WtA never really felt like a "proper" werewolf game to me, but as its own thing it's dumb fun with some interesting setting elements despite the omnipresent hippie stereotypes.

Professor Bling
Nov 12, 2008

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Screaming Idiot posted:

One of the werewolf tribes had the power to turn a cardboard box into a perfectly comfortable living space, to pull magically intact food and drink out any garbage can, and to summon the car from the Dukes of Hazard as a totemic spirit.

wait, WHAT?

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Their top-tier totem is a manifestation of the ideal of the American Dream.

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Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

Bone Gnawers Sourcebook posted:

General Lee

Background Cost: 5

While Civil Wars heroes are certainly very interesting, this great spirit has nothing to do with the War between the States. The General Lee is actually an automotive totem, deriving its name from one of the most famous white trash vehicles ever: the orange muscle car featured on the Dukes of Hazzard. Followers of this totem quest for the car of their dreams, one that they can worship far more than any animal spirit or urban Incarna.

After dedicating themselves to “the General,” the pack hunts to find a neglected, rusting hulk of a car. Typically, a Bone Gnawer in the pack begins slaving over this monumental gift to at least get the deathtrap running. Some Bone Gnawers transform these cars into shrines to the totem, often by propping them up on cement blocks in their front yards. With the help of their pack totem, it’s gradually transformed into a paragon of automotive excellence. There’s a reason for this: the car serves as a temperamental totem-spirit, one that can’t enter the spirit world, but can still serve as reliable transportation.

As the pack’s Theurge advances in rank, the lemon is gradually transformed. A fostern can actually drive his “totem car” around, although it’s still a sputtering heap held together by spit and bailing wire. Adren drive masterworks of automotive engineering with whisper quiet engines; reduce all Driving rolls for the car by 1. An athro’s car never runs out of gasoline, while an elder can actually drive her car into the Umbra. If the car is actually destroyed, its spirit “slumbers in the Umbra” for a full cycle of the moon, then returns to a new set of wheels (and the rusting chassis attached to them) chosen by the pack.

Most worshippers of the General can be identified by the wrenches in their back pockets, oil stains on their clothing, or the thunderous sound of their stock cars tearing through the streets. Yee-haw!

Traits

Once accepted by the General, everyone in the pack gets two dots of Drive and two dots of Crafts (if this would grant them a specialty, they automatically get the specialty: Repair). All pack members have the difficulty of any Drive rolls related to tricky or dangerous maneuvers reduced by 2. The pack alpha gains an intuitive knowledge of all of America’s highways, along with many back roads in the Deep South. Ban: Worshippers of the General endlessly tinker with their cars. As part of this, at least one member of the pack must have mechanic’s tools ready at all times. There’s a good reason for this: the pack’s totem spirit lives in the car they care for. Tinkering with the pack’s chosen car gives spiritual strength to the totem spirit. For all practical intents and purposes, the totem spirit is bound to the car, and it can only go where the car goes.

Ban

Each day, a member of the pack must spend at least an hour making repairs, improvements, and modifications to this shrine. If the pack skips a day, the car begins to degrade, gaining one temporary fault. Each day, someone in the pack can attempt a Wits + Repair roll (difficulty 6) to fix this.

This is a sizeable ban, but it has its benefits as well. After years of reverent worship, these vehicles can reach a peak performance of mythical proportions. With a capable driver behind the wheel, some are capable of performing stunts rarely seen outside of 70’s car chases. As part of this, when the driver is Rank Three or higher, any time he fails a driving check, the totem spirit can then attempt a second roll using its Willpower as a Dex + Driving dice pool.

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