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CelticPredator posted:Guardians of the Galaxy/Star Trek09 were the closest things to a Star Wars before it returned. What is the Alien equivalent of that. The only thing I can think of is Apollo 18, but like, kinda not really?
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s.i.r.e. posted:The only thing I can think of is Apollo 18, but like, kinda not really? I think they were more referring to the staying power that the xeno has had and the success over more than just one or two films. These days you really don't see creatures attain that iconic status where they become the main draw of an ongoing series. Alien is basically a slasher in space so the xeno is like the Jason of the Alien franchise, and it's pretty unique in that way. The Jaws series is another example but obviously a great white shark isn't as interesting and creative as the xeno was, which is one reason why every Jaws sequel is trash.
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Mar 21, 2019 18:58
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We really haven't had an iconic horror icon outside of the new Pennywise since... what, Jigsaw?
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Mar 21, 2019 19:00
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Horror genre is hard, they don’t typically make that much money and they usually have tiny budgets. Hence why they leaned into action more as the sequels came out. I’m so desensitized anymore I don’t know what would actually make a good horror movie with Aliens. Maybe trying to turn it into more torture porn but that’s kinda it’s own thing.
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Mar 21, 2019 19:02
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s.i.r.e. posted:We really haven't had an iconic horror icon outside of the new Pennywise since... what, Jigsaw? The Conjuring my dude. People love that Nun.
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Mar 21, 2019 19:04
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s.i.r.e. posted:We really haven't had an iconic horror icon outside of the new Pennywise since... what, Jigsaw? There have been plenty of successful slasher villains since Alien came out in 1979 but they're people. Creatures are much harder to come by. Critters had a nice little run there with multiple sequels but obviously nothing like the huge mainstream success of the xeno. Maybe the closest thing we have to the xeno is the velociraptors from the Jurassic Park franchise.
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Mar 21, 2019 19:06
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That's true, forgot about her, but I don't see the Nun continuing to get it's own series. At least I hope not, the character isn't interesting enough to warrant more films.
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Mar 21, 2019 19:10
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Is there a particular edition of Aliens: Labyrinth that's worth picking up? It looks like there are a few out there and although I'm not hugely into comics, this thread's discussion has piqued my interest.
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s.i.r.e. posted:That's true, forgot about her, but I don't see the Nun continuing to get it's own series. At least I hope not, the character isn't interesting enough to warrant more films. The whole conjuring series is one big ol thing. Same with Annabelle. Maybe the crooked man. I don’t know. Also I’ll confirm that Life is the closest thing we have to Alien, and is also really good
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Mar 21, 2019 19:12
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I'd say the Red Face Demon is more iconic out of the whole Wan-verse. Life was ok, retreaded too much ground better films already had and was poorly written with characters basically offing themselves because everyone wanted to make stupid decisions. Glad the ending was bleak as hell even if you could see it coming from a mile away.
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Mar 21, 2019 19:27
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Pitch Black meant to be a xeno flick but the action hero it introduced got all the sequels
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SUNKOS posted:Actually Scott just wanted to make a generic Alien movie and the only reason Prometheus was different was because studio execs told him to add new creatures and do something fresh. If the studio hadn't stepped in and instead let Scott make what he wanted to it would have been even worse because he had nothing, just a sense of entitlement regarding ownership of the franchise that he wanted to try and reclaim. The trilobite is an example of the studio telling Scott to be creative because they thought the xeno was cooked. Weird thoughts. Scott was the one who ended up seeking out Damon Lindelof to review and then work to revise Jon Spaihts' original script because he (and the other producers of the film agreed) it was too much of a retread of previous films, with too much focus on the alien. Scott himself did not personally write anything. He works with screenwriters to develop and workshop ideas, which is what most directors at his level do. You have invented this whole spurious narrative in your head because you didn't like a movie. You should ask yourself why that is.
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Mar 21, 2019 21:47
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Iconic slashers are a specific cultural phenomenon from around the 1980s, just like Sam Spade and Mike Hammer are among the iconic noir detectives of the 1940s. And then: iconic of what? The Alien alien is an iconic image of an astronaut twisted by Space Madness into literally a different species. It’s an image with a very narrow range of applications. That’s why “iconic” is not always the goal. Prometheus, Covenant, Last Days On Mars, Europa Report, etc. (plus Earth-set films like Splinter, The Thing 2011, The Ruins, Chernobyl Diaries...) deal largely in abstract threats like nanomachines, fungal spores - even radiation. Even when the threat takes on a specific form and characterization, as in movies like Life and Kill Command, it’s more abstract - non-anthropomorphic. Where you do get that relative anthropomorphism nowadays is in Kaiju films, like the MUTO in Godzilla 2014.
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brocked posted:Pitch Black meant to be a xeno flick but the action hero it introduced got all the sequels David Twohy, creator of Riddick, wrote one of the script drafts for Alien3 and actively solicited FOX to let him make an AvP movie prior to the Anderson movie being made. ‘The Chronicles of Riddick’s prison bit cribs some stuff from his Alien3 draft, as well. Ersatz posted:Is there a particular edition of Aliens: Labyrinth that's worth picking up? It looks like there are a few out there and although I'm not hugely into comics, this thread's discussion has piqued my interest. This is the one I personally had: Aliens: Labyrinth https://www.amazon.com/dp/1569711100/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_OVfLCbBP6E0Q8 It’s got the Backsplash prequel as well. The old 90s stuff hasn’t been reprinted in a while, the most recent compilation that has it is this: Aliens Omnibus Volume 3 (v. 3) https://www.amazon.com/dp/1593078722/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_RYfLCbAFY13RV This seller on eBay is offering, uh, 10 copies of the trade paperback for about $24 shipped, I’m almost tempted to buy up the lot and then offer them up to goons for the price of shipping or something: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F232132147597 If you’re okay with digital comics, it looks like Dark Horse offers a digital version but I’m not sure if it includes Backsplash. https://digital.darkhorse.com/books/f414a6a456764612a055cb965c2da198/aliens-labyrinth
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:That’s why “iconic” is not always the goal. Prometheus, Covenant, Last Days On Mars, Europa Report, etc. (plus Earth-set films like Splinter, The Thing 2011, The Ruins, Chernobyl Diaries...) deal largely in abstract threats like nanomachines, fungal spores - even radiation. Splinter was a cool movie.
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Xenomrph posted:David Twohy, creator of Riddick, wrote one of the script drafts for Alien3 and actively solicited FOX to let him make an AvP movie prior to the Anderson movie being made. ‘The Chronicles of Riddick’s prison bit cribs some stuff from his Alien3 draft, as well. https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Ali...&s=books&sr=1-3 Any reason not to pick this one up instead? Also does the omnibus version have the Backsplash prequel too?
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AFewBricksShy posted:https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Ali...&s=books&sr=1-3 The omnibus I linked does, yes. The one you linked is the novelization of the comic, by S.D. Perry. It'll get the job done if you can't get ahold of the comic, but I much prefer the comic over the novel. The novel changes up the pacing and the order of events a bit, and you obviously miss out on the awesome artwork of the comic.
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Xenomrph posted:The omnibus I linked does, yes. I didn't even realize that wasn't the comic, I just thought it was a different reprint. Thanks, I ordered the tpb.
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Holy poo poo, the omnibus trade paperback prices have gone up since I last looked (it has been a long time) I only have Vol1 and was planning to get some others at some point, but now I see they're all out of print and going for $40+ on Amazon. So which of them are worth it?
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AFewBricksShy posted:I didn't even realize that wasn't the comic, I just thought it was a different reprint. Thanks, I ordered the tpb. Edit-- MrMojok posted:Holy poo poo, the omnibus trade paperback prices have gone up since I last looked (it has been a long time) This page has a list of what each volume contains. As for which ones are worth it? It kind of depends on what you're looking for, and what your threshold for silly/stupid is. I'd say Vol 3 is very worth it (the most "schlock" story in the volume is arguably "Rogue", but it's still fun; everything else is worthwhile). Volumes 2 and 4 are chock full 'o dumb, but hey that might be your thing. "Colonial Marines" is an especially wild trainwreck, but it's a trainwreck that it's hard to look away from once you get started. The ending "twist" doesn't make sense if you haven't read "Rogue", though. Volumes 5 and 6 are pretty much everything else, including almost all of the one-shots and short stories. The stories are of varying quality, but there's definitely more good than bad. Standouts in vol 5 include "Survival", "Alien", "Incubation", and "Alchemy", standouts in vol 6 include "Apocalypse", "45 Seconds", "Elder Gods", "Glass Corridor", and "Stalker". Xenomrph fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Mar 22, 2019 |
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Xenomrph posted:The novelizations generally expanded on the plots and characters of their comic counterparts since they didn't have the page limitations that a comic book has, and occasionally resolved some plot holes or retconned things. They also added a lot of sex scenes.
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https://deadline.com/2019/03/fox-film-disney-paul-feig-universal-fox-layoffs-1202579443/ Please give me this. i could really use it thanks. quote:Ridley Scott’s Scott Free seems also a good bet to stay: beyond the next Aliens installment that he’s working on, Scott is expected to next direct Merlin, a live-action movie on the formative years of the wizard, for Disney.
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Highly on topic for this thread https://twitter.com/oh_pollo/status/1109375825089040385 Apparently all recycled materials? Good for them! It looks great!
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https://twitter.com/oh_pollo/status/1109375825089040385 https://twitter.com/bhsdrew/status/1109508555701436416 https://twitter.com/oh_pollo/status/1109376274173181953 Davros1 fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Mar 23, 2019 |
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https://twitter.com/oh_pollo/status/1109375825089040385?s=19
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Mar 24, 2019 04:34
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They’re coming outta the goddamn walls!
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Mar 24, 2019 04:37
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This is amazing. Mad props to those kids.
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Apparently someone is going to film one of the performances, so that’s something to look forward to.
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Mar 24, 2019 05:06
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Why isn't this in the OP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgXd6Npj4ZY
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Gnome de plume posted:Why isn't this in the OP Holy poo poo I had totally forgotten about this. That same band did a Die Hard song that was pretty great, too.
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Mar 24, 2019 11:36
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The ending to Life was so dumb and cheesy it made me retroactively hate the whole movie
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Life owns, ending was perfect
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The_Doctor posted:Apparently someone is going to film one of the performances, so that’s something to look forward to. Hell yeah, I'd pay to watch it.
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I bought Alien: Cold Forge and finished it. It was a bit cliche but I liked it. As I doubt I'll re-read it, I'm sending it to whoever posts in this thread that they want it.
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AFewBricksShy posted:I bought Alien: Cold Forge and finished it. It was a bit cliche but I liked it. As I doubt I'll re-read it, I'm sending it to whoever posts in this thread that they want it. Oh hello, yes please.
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The_Doctor posted:Oh hello, yes please. done pm me your address, then do the same for someone else when you're done. Edit: VVV you putz, you're a week too late. AFewBricksShy fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Mar 26, 2019 |
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Goons are the best.  gently caress it, if there’s, like, 9 people reading this thread who’d be interested in cheap copies of ‘Labyrinth’, I’ll buy up one of the bulk lots on eBay and send them out to whoever wants one for the cost of shipping plus like $1 or something. I don’t want to do this if there’s only like 2 people interested, but if there’s more than 10 people I can grab up a second bulk lot. I guess post here and/or shoot me a PM if you’re interested.
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Xenomrph posted:Goons are the best. I've already read it, but if you haven't, definitely get in on this.
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The_Doctor posted:Oh hello, yes please. I got your info, it will be in the mail tomorrow. I’m also including a random card I had as a novelty book mark so enjoy that and when you’re done pass the book on to another goon.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Iconic slashers are a specific cultural phenomenon from around the 1980s, just like Sam Spade and Mike Hammer are among the iconic noir detectives of the 1940s. "Iconic" creatures are less likely to be created by film these days than things like, I dunno, message boards. Creepypasta in particular cuts right past things like copyright, fanfiction, and cannon and allows people to create and participate in folklore relatively directly.
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