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BioEnchanted posted:From what I saw of the character, mostly from compilation clips, he is partially falling into toxic masculinity but doesn't go all the way, for example there are lots of people he genuinely cares about like April and Andy, April because she has an attitude he respects and Andy because he's like a big stupid son to him. Also he doesn't hide his emotions well, he tries, but we all know his adorable giggle when the tiny horse shows up or when playing football with Andy after enjoying a Meat Tornado (a mexican food truck item he is initially sceptical abut but ends up loving the name so much he's like "OK, you got me."). Basically he tries for Toxic Manhood, but actually kind of fails at sticking the landing. He also tolerates dissent and doesn't push his world view on anyone. Plus he encourages academic learning and thinks women are equal to men. He's this weirdly contradictory character that works because he can be whatever the writers need him to be at that moment.
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Mar 24, 2019 16:23
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Mooseontheloose posted:he can be whatever the writers need him to be at that moment.
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Mar 24, 2019 16:55
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Wait what? Ron shows signs of fragile masculinity, not toxic masculinity.
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Mar 24, 2019 18:44
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:Wait what? Ron shows signs of fragile masculinity, not toxic masculinity. lol if you think the two are different
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Mar 24, 2019 19:40
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Torquemada posted:She’s not bad in that Dogme 95 thing where she jerks off in her bathroom either. What's this now?
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Queen Combat posted:lol if you think the two are different Fragile masculinity is being afraid of not being seen as masculine. IE driving a huge truck that you don’t use for it’s intended purpose. Toxic masculinity is being a chauvinistic abusive rear end in a top hat under the guise of “boys will be boys.” All men who exhibit toxic masculinity have fragile masculinity but a guy can be insecure about the perception of his masculinity without also being a dick to others. Is Ron ever abusive toward women? (Tbh I don’t know because I’ve only seen each episode once and it’s been a while.)
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Mar 24, 2019 20:42
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:Is Ron ever abusive toward women? (Tbh I don’t know because I’ve only seen each episode once and it’s been a while.)
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Mar 24, 2019 20:47
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:What's this now? She would have been 10-18 in the Dogme95 era. I don’t get it either. All those Dogme movies are boring as hell.
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Mar 24, 2019 20:52
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Mooseontheloose posted:He also tolerates dissent and doesn't push his world view on anyone. Plus he encourages academic learning and thinks women are equal to men. He's this weirdly contradictory character that works because he can be whatever the writers need him to be at that moment. I largely credit this to Nick Offerman being an extremely likable man.
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Mar 24, 2019 21:00
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:The least funny would definitely be April and Ann. April because Aubrey Plaza can't act or come across as anything other than lolrandom, and Ann because she never was given any defining character traits or reason to be in the show beyond season 2 or 3. The whole Ann character was odd. Everyone, Leslie in particular, kept on about how wonderful, amazing, incredible Ann is despite her lack of any distinct characteristics. "beautiful" was another oft-used word and while Rashida Jones is certainly good looking, I started to wonder if it was just to keep someone happy behind the scenes.
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Mar 24, 2019 22:11
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Crimpolioni posted:Also in Ingrid goes West Aubrey Plaza had the best episode of Harmonquest too because she just bowls through it like crazy and doesn’t give a poo poo while the DM frantically tries to keep up
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Mar 24, 2019 22:12
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nonathlon posted:The whole Ann character was odd. Everyone, Leslie in particular, kept on about how wonderful, amazing, incredible Ann is despite her lack of any distinct characteristics. "beautiful" was another oft-used word and while Rashida Jones is certainly good looking, I started to wonder if it was just to keep someone happy behind the scenes.
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I honestly forget the character of Ann altogether when thinking about the show. Her primary function seems to be the straight man but then Ben shows up and takes the same role.
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nonathlon posted:The whole Ann character was odd. Everyone, Leslie in particular, kept on about how wonderful, amazing, incredible Ann is despite her lack of any distinct characteristics. "beautiful" was another oft-used word and while Rashida Jones is certainly good looking, I started to wonder if it was just to keep someone happy behind the scenes. The problem with her character is she’s supposed to be the normal one out of a group of weirdos but they never really play up the contrast so she just ends up not really having much of a character. Hence the need for other characters to literally describe the characteristics she’s supposed to have. I loved parks and rec and aside from her scenes with Leslie and Andy I can’t really remember a lot of Ann scenes
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Mar 24, 2019 22:18
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Aesop Poprock posted:The problem with her character is she’s supposed to be the normal one out of a group of weirdos but they never really play up the contrast so she just ends up not really having much of a character. Hence the need for other characters to literally describe the characteristics she’s supposed to have. The Good Place is full of this. Just characters talking about how great each other is. How hot they are. How their friendship is special and meaningful.
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Ann is a side-character after Ben filled the straight(ish) role, and they failed to develop her in other ways to create subplots, so it's mainly her spinning the wheels. Jones did good with material she got tho.
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Mar 24, 2019 22:28
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Ann is Leslies best friend who she cares about a lot. The only really useless character was the guy who left at the end of the second season. They set him up to be like Jim from the office but then realized Jim sucked so they wrote him out.
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Mar 24, 2019 22:33
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Gaunab posted:Ann is Leslies best friend who she cares about a lot. The only really useless character was the guy who left at the end of the second season. They set him up to be like Jim from the office but then realized Jim sucked so they wrote him out. You mean Mark Brendanaquits.
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Mar 24, 2019 22:36
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Harris Wittles was a goddamn treasure
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Mar 24, 2019 22:55
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:What's this now? I was trying to be funny. She got caught out with that Fappening thing a few years back. e: My first red text and av change! A moment to treasure 
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Mar 24, 2019 22:57
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Mar 24, 2019 23:03
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dramatically more competent than reality, it's true
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Mar 25, 2019 00:20
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What's up? I'm Harris, I'm 33 years young, I have my cousin Jason's truck for two more weeks. I have one testicle (whack-a-mole accident) and I'm down to clown.
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pentyne posted:You mean Mark Brendanaquits. I read somewhere that he asked to be written out because he didn’t think his character added anything to the show. Insightful if true
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Mar 25, 2019 02:01
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jim sucks so bad. so bad, you guys
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Mar 25, 2019 03:06
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I will dance on the grave of the terrible Jim.
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Fumaofthelake posted:I read somewhere that he asked to be written out because he didn’t think his character added anything to the show. Insightful if true Was it this? https://screencrush.com/paul-schneider-interview/
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:
Women is actually abusive towards Ron. His relationship with Lawless's character is basically the only healthy relationship he has ever had.
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Fumaofthelake posted:I read somewhere that he asked to be written out because he didn’t think his character added anything to the show. Insightful if true
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Mar 25, 2019 21:08
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bad posts ahead!!! posted:jim sucks so bad. so bad, you guys
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Mar 25, 2019 21:09
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Fumaofthelake posted:I read somewhere that he asked to be written out because he didn’t think his character added anything to the show. Insightful if true I also read that the showrunners wanted to bring him back at some point, but they never ended up doing it, which seems like a testament to the fact that they didn't really know what to do with the character. He's also apparently the only guy Ann dated whose personality didn't totally override hers, since he's not mentioned at all in that episode. Or maybe they just purposely left him out since they had no real handle on his character.
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Mar 25, 2019 21:13
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FactsAreUseless posted:I have never enjoyed the Office. I just don't get the appeal at all. 
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Mar 25, 2019 21:14
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FactsAreUseless posted:I have never enjoyed the Office. I just don't get the appeal at all. I mean, I get it, but embarrassment humor doesn't work for me.
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Mar 25, 2019 21:18
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The Bloop posted:I mean, I get it, but embarrassment humor doesn't work for me. Different strokes for different folks. 
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Mar 25, 2019 21:23
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Alhazred posted:Women is actually abusive towards Ron. His relationship with Lawless's character is basically the only healthy relationship he has ever had. To clarify, I meant, did Ron ever insinuate that women are inferior than men at ______, or make typical toxic masculinity comments, not full on mental abuse. In conclusion, it does seem really silly to associate Ron with toxic masculinity.
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FactsAreUseless posted:I have never enjoyed the Office. I just don't get the appeal at all. You've probably seen more by now, but just in case: skip the first season entirely before judging it. Also, episodes have more weight when viewed in sequence than popping in randomly, where you don't get the full context of everything going on.
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Mar 25, 2019 21:40
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:To clarify, I meant, did Ron ever insinuate that women are inferior than men at ______, or make typical toxic masculinity comments, not full on mental abuse. They're probably referring to things like the Ron Swanson Pyramid of Greatness: 
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Mar 25, 2019 21:43
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:You've probably seen more by now, but just in case: skip the first season entirely before judging it. Also, episodes have more weight when viewed in sequence than popping in randomly, where you don't get the full context of everything going on. I think Season 2 through Jim's & Pam's Wedding is a good stretch to start and stop watching.
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Bogus Adventure posted:I think Season 2 through Jim's & Pam's Wedding is a good stretch to start and stop watching. You miss out on a couple greats though, like Scott's Tots. I think for most people, "Goodbye, Michael" is a good stopping point. But I also think that there are enough good moments in the remaining seasons that if you've gone that far, you might as well plow through them. Things do get pretty dire at times, but the final two episodes are actually very good.
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