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Mar 20, 2019 06:11
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Uh I ship anomander and raest
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Mar 20, 2019 08:17
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I think you'll find Anomander has a girlfriend and she is real and powerful and a dragon.
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Mar 20, 2019 08:39
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Aranict and Brys Fiddler and his Lobber Spax and everyone
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Mar 20, 2019 11:54
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Antsy and Blend and Picker (in his dreams). Always found it a little weird that while there were a handful of gay or bi characters there were all these really intense tear-filled bromances that went way above the brothers-in-arms relationship of say Kalam and Quick Ben, that dialled the emotional aspect of the relationship up to eleven but always stopped short of any kind of romance (Trull and Onrack, Toc and Tool, Mappo and Icarum for example). Beyond that, for men, we have Yedan who is gay, but far too busy being a badass to think about other dudes and maybe Skulldeath (can't remember if he was explicitly bi or people just assumed he was because he was so pretty). Were there any other major gay male characters (where it isn't just throwaway innuendo)? Obviously a lot more gay/bi women, including some major characters. Not even thinking in terms of representation or anything, there were just multiple times in the series it felt like he was setting up these relationships then they never reach that point or they just turn out to be straight and their romantic relationships were like a pale shadow of their bromance. Edit: Went back and spoilered a chunk of that because I guess where certain relationships do or don't go is technical a spoiler. Theres no real story/plot stuff in there though. Gravy Jones fucked around with this message at 13:23 on Mar 20, 2019 |
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Mar 20, 2019 12:54
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Skulldeath is a bottom canonically because of his tribes customs.
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Mar 20, 2019 15:12
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Gravy Jones posted:Edit: Went back and spoilered a chunk of that because I guess where certain relationships do or don't go is technical a spoiler. Theres no real story/plot stuff in there though. I think the it's good to have strong male relationshiops that aren't toxic in fantasy, giving how hetoronormative and toxic most of the genre can be. On the other hand, you get the problem of straight(presumably I think SE is) people writing gay folks as aromantic/asexual, whether it's out of respect of not being able to write something they don't know about, which I think is bullshit, or because they want the representation but that's it. It's a step above Dumbledoring.
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Mar 20, 2019 17:52
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My reread is at the finale of The Bonehunters. That whole sequence of Claw ambushes is probably my favorite action scene in the whole series.
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Mar 21, 2019 20:07
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Jaxyon posted:I think the it's good to have strong male relationshiops that aren't toxic in fantasy, giving how hetoronormative and toxic most of the genre can be. I can't remember his exact words, but Erikson seemed pretty receptive when he got called on it, and stuck a couple of gay guys in Kharkanas - there's that Bordersword guy who gets completely overwhelmed by the horror of what's going on, and starts seeing the face of his long lost lover in all the dudes he's killing (either metaphorically or full on hallucinations) and shanks one of Hunn Raal's lovely cousins. It's one of my favourite sequences in the series (PYF nightmarish battle scene) Relationship chat: Who's the best wingman in the series? Tavore gets my vote: quote:
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Mar 21, 2019 21:56
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It’s a bit sad that Karsa might not show up for a long time but it was the same break from expectations that so awesomely introduced him and I have faith Erikson would hold off on the big boy only if something great was in store.
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Mar 22, 2019 09:54
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He won't show up because he's busy sucking me off.
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Mar 22, 2019 18:54
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I'm trying to think of other stories where the main character is mostly offscreen and all I'm coming up with is the Christian bible and I'm.not sure if that's gonna be an apt comparison
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Mar 22, 2019 19:21
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Sounds like he's gonna be the combination antagonist/John Galt that everyone in the actual story lives in the shadow of but doesn't need to be on-camera to influence events. Obviously there are going to be new main characters that interact with Karsa (or did in the past) that hundreds of pages will be devoted to.
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Mar 22, 2019 19:35
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pile of brown posted:I'm trying to think of other stories where the main character is mostly offscreen and all I'm coming up with is the Christian bible and I'm.not sure if that's gonna be an apt comparison The Lord of the Rings. 
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Mar 22, 2019 19:55
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pile of brown posted:I'm trying to think of other stories where the main character is mostly offscreen and all I'm coming up with is the Christian bible and I'm.not sure if that's gonna be an apt comparison the shittiest of the sword of truth books
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Mar 23, 2019 03:28
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pile of brown posted:I'm trying to think of other stories where the main character is mostly offscreen and all I'm coming up with is the Christian bible and I'm.not sure if that's gonna be an apt comparison
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Mar 24, 2019 21:46
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MBotF did it with the main character, Nefarias Bredd, staying offscreen until the final act.
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Mar 24, 2019 23:44
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dwarf74 posted:MBotF did it with the main character, Nefarias Bredd, staying offscreen until the final act.
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Mar 25, 2019 00:04
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I hope the whole trilogy is two guys sitting around by the side of the road, waiting to meet Karsa, who never arrives.
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Mar 25, 2019 04:45
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The God is Not Willing to write a straightforward narrative
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Mar 25, 2019 04:46
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Leospeare posted:I hope the whole trilogy is two guys sitting around by the side of the road, waiting to meet a guy Karsa killed a month ago, who never arrives.
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Mar 25, 2019 04:57
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Infinite Karma posted:You say that, but Tavore gets like 8 minutes of screen time in the whole series, and never a POV scene/chapter, and she's probably got a similar role to Karsa in the new series.
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Mar 25, 2019 14:33
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Truf
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Mar 25, 2019 20:44
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Episodes 14-24 "Anamander Rake sighed as he unsheathed his katana... So I finally had the time to finish the book hence the big chapter spread. I enjoyed it quite a bit although for all the moving parts it still didn't manage to reach the same clusterfuck levels of a Peter F Hamilton novel. Anamander Rake was by far my least favourite character. Yes, he is actually a Drow edgelord with a big edgelord sword, and he can even turn into a dragon. In a story full of powerful wizards and monsters he still managed to feel like a fan-fiction character. The core of the story ended up being the group in Darujhistan oddly enough given that we don't meet them until a third of the way into the book. And my favourite characters were Tattersail and Whiskeyjack even though one of them dies half way through and the other one gets sidelined at the end of the book by all the wizard action. It felt unfortunate that Sorry's character was extracted in time to turn her into a passive waifu for Crokus. The creepy plant house reminded me of a creepy pasta about an evil house that eats people. I guess one of the hazards of the internet era is that fan-fiction and copy pasta has become part of the general cultural milieu and genre fiction suffers from comparison and association as a result. Overall the book was entertaining if a bit unfocused at times and I'll definitely continue on with the sequel.
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Mar 27, 2019 09:21
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:Episodes 14-24 "Anamander Rake sighed as he unsheathed his katana...
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Mar 27, 2019 09:45
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I don't want to quote anything specifically to avoid clues, but I am laughing and hope you'll come back to that post after reading a few more books. GotM is one of the weakest in the series. I enjoyed it a lot more when I read it again after finishing the series.
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Mar 27, 2019 09:46
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:
Anomander Rake is Eriksons version of Elric.
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Mar 27, 2019 13:39
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Rake never really stops being a tragic doomed Elric Sephiroth lovechild but he gets way better, I like him a lot despite his inherent silliness
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Mar 27, 2019 13:46
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Part of me wants to think that Rake is a deliberate parody. He's introduced as the most over the top badass (thousands of years old, his very presence gives Baruk a magical headache, silver hair, his eyes loving changes colour) and then we slowly peel back the layers to see what actually makes him tick. But the other part of me knows that Erikson unironically loves that campy melodrama. Like when Rake clears the streets by whirling his sword screaming "FLEE IF YOU VALUE YOUR SOULS" and is clearly having the time of his life.
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Mar 27, 2019 13:50
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Rake was his first d&d character right?
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Mar 27, 2019 14:09
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Gurps I think
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Mar 27, 2019 14:18
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:Rake never really stops being a tragic doomed Elric Sephiroth lovechild but he gets way better, I like him a lot despite his inherent silliness Elric predates Sephiroth (FF7?) by like 2-3 decades. Also, just because the inspiration is obvious, they don’t have to be the same. Other inspirations are for example Mocker from Dread empire, whose version in BoF is Kruppe.
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Mar 27, 2019 19:59
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 Looking nice
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Mar 27, 2019 20:00
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:I enjoyed it quite a bit although for all the moving parts it still didn't manage to reach the same clusterfuck levels of a Peter F Hamilton novel. Anamander Rake was by far my least favourite character. Yes, he is actually a Drow edgelord with a big edgelord sword, and he can even turn into a dragon. In a story full of powerful wizards and monsters he still managed to feel like a fan-fiction character. Um that's a 300,000 year old drow edgelord dragon with a floating castle, sir. Yeah he's 100% fanfic and doesn't get hugely better, but he's not really a main character in the series. And he does get more interesting. But GotM is pulp.
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Mar 27, 2019 20:06
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Cardiac posted:Elric predates Sephiroth (FF7?) by like 2-3 decades.
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Mar 27, 2019 20:42
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Jaxyon posted:Yeah he's 100% fanfic and doesn't get hugely better, but he's not really a main character in the series. And he does get more interesting. But GotM is pulp. Please get some better associations than D&D. Tia. In a way, rake is the main character of the story along with the crippled god. Both are characters at the center of the story, but they don’t need to play such a large active role for this.
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Mar 27, 2019 22:17
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indeed - plus, it is NOT a katana. in gurps, katanas are covered in the martial arts supplement - dragnipur would almost certainly be an ordinary two-handed sword
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Mar 27, 2019 22:26
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Cardiac posted:Please get some better associations than D&D. Tia. Rake is a central figure, but not a main character. He's not on screen very much. The Crippled God is not a main character either. One of the reasons I like Erickson is that he takes ridiculous genre tropes and make's them interesting. It's not a knock on him. Jaghut are trolls/orcs that are mostly pacifist anarchists. Rake is a classic brooding darkelf but his actions are much subtler and oblique and his motivaiton is literally to stop dark elfs from brooding. There's zombie velociraptors with sword-arms and yet they're still an interesting and somewhat tragic story. That's what he does. He dresses up GURPS.
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Mar 27, 2019 23:53
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i've always been curious about how much of what's portrayed in the books originally happened at a GURPS game
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My god, how can y'all talk about the cool poo poo a new reader should stumble across for themselves so openly? What makes drizzt do'rake good is having him unfold over time.
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