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TulliusCicero posted:So is Roger Stone going on trial, and how can he go trial if there was no Russia collusion just what the gently caress roger stone got indicted for lying to investigators about contacts he had with wikileaks. SDNY and whatever else will continue
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TulliusCicero posted:So is Roger Stone going on trial, and how can he go on trial if there was no Russia collusion just what the gently caress there are other state investigations. i have no idea if there are other FBI things. stone is still going to trial i believe.
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Mar 25, 2019 03:48
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Mnoba posted:thanks creepy forums stalker i don't know at all! It's not stalking if you establish a reputation as a pro-Trump dude. You have come here, we did not come to you. That's pretty rare around here because he's a lovely fascist, corrupt narcissist with a broke brain. When you shill for him in a hostile place, it reflects on you and you stand out as the guy who likes these very dumb and bad things. Go to 4chan if you want to praise Trump.
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Mar 25, 2019 03:48
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It's pretty cool to basically be told that an administration that is actively trying to erase your identity as a human being gets to keep on truckin'. Oh wait, this doesn't say cool. It says a swear word.
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Mar 25, 2019 03:53
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So I wonder if this guy was interviewed by mueller? I can’t remember. https://twitter.com/chrisinsilico/status/1109983298397310976?s=20
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goethe.cx posted:roger stone got indicted for lying to investigators about contacts he had with wikileaks. SDNY and whatever else will continue Yeah but you see those don't matter because 
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Ice Phisherman posted:It's not stalking if you establish a reputation as a pro-Trump dude. You have come here, we did not come to you. That's pretty rare around here because he's a lovely fascist, corrupt narcissist with a broke brain. When you shill for him in a hostile place, it reflects on you and you stand out as the guy who likes these very dumb and bad things. Is that guy actually a trump supporter? I didn't think there were any actually on Something Awful. I mean like actual trump supporter, not someone who is branded one because they criticize the left.
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Rectal Death Adept posted:Is that guy actually a trump supporter? I didn't think there were any actually on Something Awful. Mnoba is absolutely a right-wing corporate shill.
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Rectal Death Adept posted:Is that guy actually a trump supporter? I didn't think there were any actually on Something Awful. apparently he is a big gbs poster who said a bunch of pro trump poo poo.
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Mar 25, 2019 03:55
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Angry_Ed posted:Yeah but you see those don't matter because *posts le epic ah well nevertheless meme*
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Rectal Death Adept posted:Is that guy actually a trump supporter? I didn't think there were any actually on Something Awful. There are a number of them. They just don't tend to out themselves because they get yelled at and therefore make no headway in pushing the narrative this way or that. If D&D goes rightward at any point, they'll come out of the woodwork.
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enough about me please, i understand i'm a distraction but lets not make the mods angry I'm an honest man just postin'
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Provided our country survives to future elections, can we please put in a platform of making a change to the Constitution that says "actually the President can be indicted and not put the people in charge of his own investigation, that is mind-blowingly stupid, what the gently caress is wrong with you?" It does make me think if Nixon had just held his ground like a petulant child could he have stuck it out? He didn't have Fox News and the right wing machine to be fair
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Mar 25, 2019 04:00
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TulliusCicero posted:So is Roger Stone going on trial, and how can he go on trial if there was no Russia collusion just what the gently caress Dapper_Swindler posted:there are other state investigations. i have no idea if there are other FBI things. stone is still going to trial i believe. skylined! posted:So I wonder if this guy was interviewed by mueller? I can’t remember. Russiagate is over, let it go.
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Mar 25, 2019 04:02
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TulliusCicero posted:Provided our country survives to future elections, can we please put in a platform of making a change to the Constitution that says "actually the President can be indicted and not put the people in charge of his own investigation, that is mind-blowingly stupid, what the gently caress is wrong with you?" Who bells the cat? quote:It does make me think if Nixon had just held his ground like a petulant child could he have stuck it out? He didn't have Fox News and the right wing machine to be fair The Fox News machine's explicit purpose was to keep another Nixon situation from happening and it's doing pretty well so far at keeping republicans in a bubble which reality largely doesn't penetrate.
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Mar 25, 2019 04:02
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Angry_Ed posted:Yeah but you see those don't matter because Because what everyone was hoping for was that the president would be taken out of a position where he can continue to hurt the nation and not his ex flunkies going to jail for a handful of years?
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Mar 25, 2019 04:04
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TulliusCicero posted:Provided our country survives to future elections, can we please put in a platform of making a change to the Constitution that says "actually the President can be indicted and not put the people in charge of his own investigation, that is mind-blowingly stupid, what the gently caress is wrong with you?" maybe but the case against Nixon was a ton easier to prove with a lot less wiggle room for him(ordering a loving robbery). with trump its harder because its alot more abstract. just proving obstruction even when its obvious is hard to fully prove, not to mention collusion.
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Mar 25, 2019 04:04
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TulliusCicero posted:Also watching Brexit just continue to go on despite nobody wanting it anymore and the Tories and there's May driving their country off a cliff just to maintain their grip just enforces that these fault lines are everywhere at the moment, not just in our dumbass part of the Northwest continent. What I call "Cooperators" will never under any circumstances pursue any course of action that they believe would jeopardize their personal status quo/their personal control over societies resources. The DNC (and the oldschool RNC establishment) is dominated by the Cooperator mindset. America is presently caught in a recognizable cycle of Cooperators losing social control to Narrativists that I have dubbed "The Devils Minuet". This process has played itself out over and over in human history as follows:
IMO America is in the middle of stage four in this process.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:maybe but the case against Nixon was a ton easier to prove with a lot less wiggle room for him(ordering a loving robbery). with trump its harder because its alot more abstract. just proving obstruction even when its obvious is hard to fully prove, not to mention collusion. Impeaching him and removing him from office is not abstract at all. It's not a legal question, it's a political question. You can impeach a president for high crimes or misdemeanors, which basically means anything. He could jaywalk and that's a potential impeachable offense. The problem is drumming up the republican votes in the senate and that's not going to happen unless he's caught diddling kids on camera or something.
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CubanMissile posted:Because what everyone was hoping for was that the president would be taken out of a position where he can continue to hurt the nation and not his ex flunkies going to jail for a handful of years? To be clear, even if the Mueller investigation's end result was a report saying "yo this dude did all the crimes, here's the evidence, he's guilty as gently caress," it would still require Trump to be impeached by the house and convicted by the senate.
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Kobayashi posted:Russiagate is over, let it go. Nah I'd actually like to see all the facts first Glenn I'm not trying to win non-existent loving Tankie points. At the same time I do agree that leftist dems should keep doing what they are doing and not make it an issue over healthcare and the numerous other crimes, racism, and education issues(which they haven't, but everybody coming in to imitate Glenn Greenwald seems to think that's what they are doing, which didn't win the 2018 election) TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Mar 25, 2019 |
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If Nixon had Fox News everyone would agree that his creepy recordings were confidential and only commies would allow secret US strategy to be aired out in the open for our enemies. 
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Ice Phisherman posted:Impeaching him and removing him from office is not abstract at all. It's not a legal question, it's a political question. You can impeach a president for high crimes or misdemeanors, which basically means anything. He could jaywalk and that's a potential impeachable offense. i just meant the case against them more than impeachment. trumps never gonna get impeached now even if barr lied out his rear end and he never was. nixon was a different time plus they had audio of him doing the crime.
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TulliusCicero posted:Nah I'd actually like to see all the facts first Glenn This is incoherent, you're letting this palace intrigue melt your brain.
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Ice Phisherman posted:Impeaching him and removing him from office is not abstract at all. It's not a legal question, it's a political question. You can impeach a president for high crimes or misdemeanors, which basically means anything. He could jaywalk and that's a potential impeachable offense. The only way it happens is if 20 GOP Senators believe they're more likely to lose their seats if they vote against removal.
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King of Solomon posted:To be clear, even if the Mueller investigation's end result was a report saying "yo this dude did all the crimes, here's the evidence, he's guilty as gently caress," it would still require Trump to be impeached by the house and convicted by the senate. Well then I guess people shouldn't be disappointed since it wouldn't matter anyways. Glad you were clear on that.
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Kobayashi posted:This is incoherent, you're letting this palace intrigue melt your brain. It's called typing on a phone and autocorrect happens; it's why I edited it. Anyway, what is "palace intrigue"? The President knowingly takes money and bribes through his hotels from the Saudis, Russians, Israelis, and Chinese on the reg. He's gotten almost open bribes from several major companies. His Cabinet continues to be a complete and utter mess, where only the most loyal and stupid of cronies go, and he continues to devolve by the day. If that is "palace intrigue" to you, you should really read about Byzantine Courts for some perspective.
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One irony is that for all the endless fear of "This time Trump's gonna fire Mueller" we've had the past two years, that actually would've probably been a much better outcome for his opposition
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Charlz Guybon posted:Coach or buggy. sexpig by night posted:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-12-16/there-s-no-stopping-the-russian-baby-boom-in-miami
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TulliusCicero posted:Provided our country survives to future elections, can we please put in a platform of making a change to the Constitution that says "actually the President can be indicted and not put the people in charge of his own investigation, that is mind-blowingly stupid, what the gently caress is wrong with you?" I absolutely 100% believe that had Fox News existed in 1972, Nixon would have finished his second term.
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GyroNinja posted:I absolutely 100% believe that had Fox News existed in 1972, Nixon would have finished his second term.
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Z. Autobahn posted:One irony is that for all the endless fear of "This time Trump's gonna fire Mueller" we've had the past two years, that actually would've probably been a much better outcome for his opposition 
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Kobayashi posted:This is incoherent, you're letting this palace intrigue melt your brain. You've literally never advocated for a position in this thread, only attacked the notion of Trump being connected to Russia/Putin in any way. Do you have any actual opinions or is that it? What is it you actually believe
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GyroNinja posted:I absolutely 100% believe that had Fox News existed in 1972, Nixon would have finished his second term. that's literally why Fox News exists
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Z. Autobahn posted:One irony is that for all the endless fear of "This time Trump's gonna fire Mueller" we've had the past two years, that actually would've probably been a much better outcome for his opposition This is a totally reasonable take on a report we know next to nothing about. Totally. Your brain is whole and unbroken
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sexpig by night posted:that's literally why Fox News exists Meh, Ronny got through Iran Contra without a scratch without Fox News. But I don't disagree in general.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Meh, Ronny got through Iran Contra without a scratch without Fox News. But I don't disagree in general. By then, picking on a senior that didn't know what year it was wouldn't have ended well heh
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Z. Autobahn posted:One irony is that for all the endless fear of "This time Trump's gonna fire Mueller" we've had the past two years, that actually would've probably been a much better outcome for his opposition Trump firing Mueller would have been so much better of an outcome than what just happened. (Basically the worst-case scenario occurred today.) I am genuinely kind of struggling to come up with a worse realistic scenario than what actually just took place. At this point the first thing a massive blue wave in 2020 is gonna accomplish is to force us all to find out exactly what happens when Trump refuses to abdicate and a significant portion of our population* supports him. At this point I would expect a 2020 blue wave to result in a pretty significant outbreak of (violent) civil unrest. *this will include most law enforcement+ a sizable portion of the military
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Meh, Ronny got through Iran Contra without a scratch without Fox News. But I don't disagree in general. I mean that literally, Ailes was literally a Nixonite who explicitly said over and over if there was a 'conservative voice' to counter the mainstream it would prevent any other Republican being held accountable.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Meh, Ronny got through Iran Contra without a scratch without Fox News. But I don't disagree in general. I mean, gosh golly, Ronny went on the TV and told us all he had nothing at all to do with it, but as soon as he found out, he had a duty to the American people to tell them, by gosh!  In a twisted way we are blessed that Trump's sheer bombastic spazz hardline personality will never allow him to be able to bullshit as hard as Saint Ronny
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