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Givin
Jan 24, 2008
Givin of the Internet Hates You
Amazing how much Franbunny there was inside so many people all along. Except for boy bunnies and femmecattes.

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Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters

Jose Valasquez posted:

Why is this something he should shut the gently caress up about?

Because it demonstrates they were making a wildly dumb decision from the get go, basically.

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!

Eej posted:

people are upset or mad that we're getting two half-assed races and the square enix defenders logged in to blog about Lore Reasons for why Bunny Bois don't exist when it turns out that Viera weren't even part of the original plan and they cut their original race in half for fan service

Just generally, what makes them "half-assed"? Do you mean that in that we only get one gender? Or because of the headgear issue?



Also - Someone needs to create a Hrothgar Gunbreaker and name the character Maybe'i'am A'lion

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


Mordiceius posted:

Just generally, what makes them "half-assed"? Do you mean that in that we only get one gender? Or because of the headgear issue?

Both things? IMO the former a bit more so, but the knowing about the headgear thing helps nothing and only makes it all look worse.

Vitamean
May 31, 2012

it's actually to prevent viera from wearing bunny ears and tearing open a hole to the 12th shard

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


Vitamean posted:

it's actually to prevent viera from wearing bunny ears and tearing open a hole to the 12th shard

but why cant Hrothgar wear bunny ears then?

Bolow
Feb 27, 2007

Dryzen
Jul 23, 2011

edward crystalhands

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!

Oxyclean posted:

Both things? IMO the former a bit more so, but the knowing about the headgear thing helps nothing and only makes it all look worse.

Beast race head gear has never looked good in any MMO. This one is not going to be the one to crack the code on that. If anything, they did us a favor wrt headgear.

isk
Oct 3, 2007

You don't want me owing you

Funnier than it should be

Veev
Oct 21, 2010

K is for kid.
A guy or gal just like you.
Dont be in such a hurry to grow up, since there's nothin' a kid can't do.
Actually it's good that you don't have the option for helmets is a big brain take.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS

Mordiceius posted:

Just generally, what makes them "half-assed"? Do you mean that in that we only get one gender? Or because of the headgear issue?



Also - Someone needs to create a Hrothgar Gunbreaker and name the character Maybe'i'am A'lion

If you look at the six current races with both gender options, equipment models modified to fit in them and not just a head swap of one another and then think "yes, they put exactly as much effort into making the new races fully realized additions to the game" I don't think you'll get it

Bolow
Feb 27, 2007

Veev posted:

Actually it's good that you don't have the option for helmets is a big brain take.

Not just helmets, it's everything that goes in the head item slot that isn't a hat or goes on top of your head. So Visors, Glasses, Tiaras, Bandanas, Face Masks, all of that poo poo.

That's more or less a deal breaker for me on fantasia'ing to either one of them

Vitamean
May 31, 2012

did I read right somewhere that full-face helmets will still be visible?

the dream of hrothgar and viera in heavy iron can't die

Failboattootoot
Feb 6, 2011

Enough of this nonsense. You are an important mayor and this absurd contraption has wasted enough of your time.

Vitamean posted:

did I read right somewhere that full-face helmets will still be visible?

the dream of hrothgar and viera in heavy iron can't die

Helmets that replace the head model will work. So the fat chocobo hat and moogle suit will work. Maybe the tin can sets too.

Thundarr
Dec 24, 2002


Mordiceius posted:

Just generally, what makes them "half-assed"? Do you mean that in that we only get one gender? Or because of the headgear issue?



Also - Someone needs to create a Hrothgar Gunbreaker and name the character Maybe'i'am A'lion

Two gender locked races with no helmet basically makes them two 40% complete races instead of there being one 100% complete race. I don't give a poo poo because I won't Fantasia to either anyway but it still seems like a silly way to spend resources.

Also yes there will probably be several ~xXxGriever666xXx~ in Squall outfits.

Bleu
Jul 19, 2006

It's appropriate to entomb every ugly Khajit in iron, preventing me from having to see their PS2-lookin' rear end.

Hogama
Sep 3, 2011

Red Alert 2 Yuris Revenge
May 8, 2006

"My brain is amazing! It's full of wrinkles, and... Uh... Wait... What am I trying to say?"
Can't wait to aggressively wear Amon's hat at every viera and hrothgar

An Actual Princess
Dec 23, 2006

Mordiceius posted:

Beast race head gear has never looked good in any MMO. This one is not going to be the one to crack the code on that. If anything, they did us a favor wrt headgear.

it's astonishing how much of a dumbass you are lmao

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Eej posted:

people are upset or mad that we're getting two half-assed races and the square enix defenders logged in to blog about Lore Reasons for why Bunny Bois don't exist when it turns out that Viera weren't even part of the original plan and they cut their original race in half for fan service

Have a link to this, out of curiosity?

Bolow
Feb 27, 2007

Cythereal posted:

Have a link to this, out of curiosity?

quote:

Q: When did you decide to implement the female-only Viera and male-only Hrothgar?

A: It was during Return to Ivalice, around 3 months after 4.0. Viera was confirmed then, and Hrothgar came about at the same time when we were discussing plans with Matsuno-san. We were deciding whether to make a Hrothgar female or a Viera female, and after selecting Viera, work began right away, because otherwise we wouldn't make it in time. As mentioned before, the face parts are special and Hrothgar has big differences between its faces, like a lion face, wolf face, leopard face. It became a fixed model relatively recently. Viera was done right before Paris Fan Fest, and Hrothgar was done recently.

https://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/interview/1176157.html
https://www.gamer.ne.jp/news/201903240006/

Translation Here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/b51e3k/tokyo_fan_fest_day_1_media_interview_with_yoship/

wizardofloneliness
Dec 30, 2008

Well, that makes them being all coy about male viera even stupider, considering they were apparently never even on the table in the first place.

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!

Overwatch Porn posted:

it's astonishing how much of a dumbass you are lmao

Still funny coming from someone who got probated for wanting Squid Kid porn.

Mordiceius fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Mar 25, 2019

kojei
Feb 12, 2008
please shut up

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?
If the quest that launches us into 5.0 isn't called "First World Problems" I will be about as disappointed as I was when the quest immediately following "Under the Moonlight" was not called "The Serious Moonlight."

Thundarr
Dec 24, 2002


Leofish posted:

If the quest that launches us into 5.0 isn't called "First World Problems" I will be about as disappointed as I was when the quest immediately following "Under the Moonlight" was not called "The Serious Moonlight."

In the same vein, either the quest to unlock DNC must either be named "Let's Dance" or else that will be the level cap achievement name.

Thumbtacks
Apr 3, 2013
I just hope we can make hrothgar with awful faces like this classic

LITERALLY MY FETISH
Nov 11, 2010


Raise Chris Coons' taxes so that we can have Medicare for All.

Overwatch Porn posted:

it's astonishing how much of a dumbass you are lmao

shitposting persona only works when you aren't personally mad at other people for having different opinions

Hogama
Sep 3, 2011

Thundarr posted:

In the same vein, either the quest to unlock DNC must either be named "Let's Dance" or else that will be the level cap achievement name.
<-Dancing King/Queen->
Warrior of Light

Thundarr
Dec 24, 2002


Hogama posted:

<-Dancing King/Queen->
Warrior of Light

This should also be the level cap title yes.

Rainuwastaken
Oct 30, 2012

Another blue ribbon for Hecarim.
Would the both of you just shut up and let me be upset about how I won't be able to put pretty bows in my giant cat man's hair, jesus christ

Thundarr
Dec 24, 2002


Rainuwastaken posted:

Would the both of you just shut up and let me be upset about how I won't be able to put pretty bows in my giant cat man's hair, jesus christ

They didn't say that bara lion boys can't wear necklaces which means you can give him a pretty pink MogEx ribbon collar.

Orcs and Ostriches
Aug 26, 2010


The Great Twist
The reason catmen can't wear helmets, is because dwarves always wear helmets. Balance must be preserved, and as usual, the lalafells are the villians.

Rainuwastaken
Oct 30, 2012

Another blue ribbon for Hecarim.

Thundarr posted:

They didn't say that bara lion boys can't wear necklaces which means you can give him a pretty pink MogEx ribbon collar.

That does make things a bit better. :kimchi:

Poops Mcgoots
Jul 12, 2010

I'm sure once shadowbringers drops, I'll be able to wade through the countless titty mods to find the ones that restore helmets to viera and hrothgar.

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?

Hogama posted:

<-Dancing King/Queen->
Warrior of Light

Achievement Unlocked "Having the Time of Your Life II"

Fat and Useless
Sep 3, 2011

Not Thin and Useful

Poops Mcgoots posted:

I'm sure once shadowbringers drops, I'll be able to wade through the countless titty mods to find the ones that restore helmets to viera and hrothgar.

You know thats a good point you might be able to mod in fem cats and male buns. Also it's not like they will never happen officially if its something people want they'll get around to it.

edit: Like how they got around to the male bunny suit! ha ha ha....

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014

by sebmojo



I figured out why Hrothgar faces bug me.


quote:

Q: Do Dwarfs say Rally-ho?

A: Let's not go there.

loving riot.

SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Mar 25, 2019

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Jose Valasquez
Apr 8, 2005

SwissArmyDruid posted:



I figured out why Hrothgar faces bug me.
I didn't know that goon face blindness went this far

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