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Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


Green Intern posted:

Larger/more established conventions may be able to just pay a severance fee in the form of the guest’s guaranteed minimum, or perhaps less depending on the contract.

No clue what this one’s thinking. Reversals and guest announcements just a couple weeks out kinda scream “no idea what they’re doing.”

That's kind of the default state for a lot of cons, really.

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Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
This is just the latest

https://twitter.com/JoshGrelle/status/1109994133819670529?s=19

And I've seen a couple posts from artists who are only going because of sunk costs on airplanes/hotels and the con refusing to refund the cost of getting a table.

Anyone know if there's a place compiling everyone who's dropped out? At this rate the con is just going to be Vic and a dozen or so artists in the artists alley who can't afford to walk away from money they'd already spent to go there.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Skwirl posted:

And I've seen a couple posts from artists who are only going because of sunk costs on airplanes/hotels and the con refusing to refund the cost of getting a table.

Anyone know if there's a place compiling everyone who's dropped out? At this rate the con is just going to be Vic and a dozen or so artists in the artists alley who can't afford to walk away from money they'd already spent to go there.

Haven't been able to find one.

Blackface Lawyer has been all over it, though.

https://twitter.com/renfamous/status/1110196921082236928

I wonder if "I know SECRETS" works in a court of law.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


That dude comes across like he's even less of a lawyer than Lionel Hutz.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Lurdiak posted:

That dude comes across like he's even less of a lawyer than Lionel Hutz.

I'll have you know he makes twice minimum wage.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Dawgstar posted:

Haven't been able to find one.

Blackface Lawyer has been all over it, though.

https://twitter.com/renfamous/status/1110196921082236928

I wonder if "I know SECRETS" works in a court of law.

So, he realizes only the convention could sue on breach of contract. Random joe schmo can't do sue over that, only the parties of thr contract. If the other party chooses not to pursue action during a breach, then its considered an amendment until a party involved in the contract chooses to sue. And letting it happen before suing can ruin your case, if you were aware of the breach and did nothing.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Covok posted:

So, he realizes only the convention could sue on breach of contract. Random joe schmo can't do sue over that, only the parties of thr contract. If the other party chooses not to pursue action during a breach, then its considered an amendment until a party involved in the contract chooses to sue. And letting it happen before suing can ruin your case, if you were aware of the breach and did nothing.

He isn't planning on initiating any kind of legal action. He's just trying to make some people look bad and reassure the suckers of comicsgate that they're on the righteous side of this culture war. It's also a form of intimidation and harassment, like "oh, if you do this thing that is completely defeating comicsgate, you MIGHT get sued, so you should keep your head down lest I read out your own contracts".

He's basically taking pictures of Lowtax's house.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Wait I'm not following this one, how is his having a copy of two unrelated party's contract a disaster for anyone?

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
One, it's doubtful you could actually sue most of the guests for anything besides whatever advance payment you might have given them, which I assume anyone cancelling would already be planning on returning.

Two, good luck getting anyone to come next year if you start suing guests. Actors aren't going to be put in a position where they might have to turn down a gig because they don't want to get sued for not getting their photo taken with sweaty nerds for 7 hours straight.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Retro Futurist posted:

Wait I'm not following this one, how is his having a copy of two unrelated party's contract a disaster for anyone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFoC3TR5rzI

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:
I don't see how this con exists again next year

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Someone should start CHUDcon and bleed these fuckers dry.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!



That's about what I figured, but I can at least usually see the weird logic behind what these people are trying to say

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Retro Futurist posted:

Wait I'm not following this one, how is his having a copy of two unrelated party's contract a disaster for anyone?

Rekieta's whole thing throughout the entirety of the Mignogna mess is that 'he know secrets.' He's in close contact with Vic's legal team, he has emails about how Monica Rial and Chris Sabat threatened the con, just on and on. BFL's shtick is he can throw around legal words that really dazzle ComicsGate, which is why you'll hear them say 'tortious interference' like a magic spell.

Rhyno posted:

Someone should start CHUDcon and bleed these fuckers dry.

First step - start an IndieGoGo for it.

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


In case anyone's wondering about what actual contractual repercussions there might be, several experienced people chime in for this thread:
https://twitter.com/OkazuYuri/status/1110012146077831169

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Yeah that's head scratchingly dumb. They cant force you to show up, sit in AA and lose money. Guests cancel all the loving time.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Calaveron posted:

I don't see how this con exists again next year

The organizers are dumb as hell. They caved and reinvited a sex predator to their con when probably 95% of the people giving them grief about it were out of state CHUDs who were never planning to go and still aren't, and burnt any good will they had.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Skwirl posted:

The organizers are dumb as hell. They caved and reinvited a sex predator to their con when probably 95% of the people giving them grief about it were out of state CHUDs who were never planning to go and still aren't, and burnt any good will they had.

But, and listen to me here, *ahem* both sides~

Nah, but, really, this was a big boner of a move, in both the old and new sense of the word. You reinvited a child predator, dinguses! To a con about a kid show!

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Covok posted:

But, and listen to me here, *ahem* both sides~

Nah, but, really, this was a big boner of a move, in both the old and new sense of the word. You reinvited a child predator, dinguses! To a con about a kid show!

He's a child predator too? I'm not surprised but I'd only read a couple of the accusations from adults.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Even Shatner is now dunking on Vic.

https://twitter.com/Zenrotto/status/1110183402936913925

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


Skwirl posted:

He's a child predator too? I'm not surprised but I'd only read a couple of the accusations from adults.

IIRC he's not been especially worried about determining a target's age. So, not like kiddy diddler, just regular old indiscriminate creeper on ladies what have had a puberty.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Puppy Time posted:

IIRC he's not been especially worried about determining a target's age. So, not like kiddy diddler, just regular old indiscriminate creeper on ladies what have had a puberty.

Yeah he will hit on anyone and apparently is one of those people that makes con workers miserable. Just a lovely dude overall.

Abroham Lincoln
Sep 19, 2011

Note to self: This one's the good one




That's a pretty old tweet, but the real highlight is that it features Vic replying claiming that Shatner's account is run by someone else and that he's totally friends with the REAL Shatner.

fritz
Jul 26, 2003

Rhyno posted:

Someone should start CHUDcon and bleed these fuckers dry.

Dragonball pit.

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

Abroham Lincoln posted:

the real highlight is that it features Vic replying claiming that Shatner's account is run by someone else

Well he's not wrong about that.

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



Renfamous is a way stronger person than I could ever be.

https://twitter.com/HoosierHiWay/status/1110371897676578816

I cannot imagine dealing with the amount of disgusting assholes, chuds, and incels that she deals with on a daily basis. :stare:

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Vandar posted:

Renfamous is a way stronger person than I could ever be.

https://twitter.com/HoosierHiWay/status/1110371897676578816

I cannot imagine dealing with the amount of disgusting assholes, chuds, and incels that she deals with on a daily basis. :stare:

https://twitter.com/vonbrucken/status/1110409529072734210
Finally a kinda reasonable guy?
https://twitter.com/vonbrucken/status/1110410400854626304
Never mind..

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Vandar posted:

Renfamous is a way stronger person than I could ever be.

https://twitter.com/HoosierHiWay/status/1110371897676578816

I cannot imagine dealing with the amount of disgusting assholes, chuds, and incels that she deals with on a daily basis. :stare:

That tweet is very much an epic self-own. He's basically just admitted that his porn collection is full of interracial gangbangs and "tiny girls". The far right never change.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Jedit posted:

That tweet is very much an epic self-own. He's basically just admitted that his porn collection is full of interracial gangbangs and "tiny girls". The far right never change.

That's a famous meme image in chan circles, it doesn't mean much other than they hang out on disgusting message boards.

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib

Lurdiak posted:

That's a famous meme image in chan circles, it doesn't mean much other than they hang out on disgusting message boards.

Of course there's also this:

https://twitter.com/DrWifeQuotes/status/1110391154892328960

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Lurdiak posted:

That's a famous meme image in chan circles, it doesn't mean much other than they hang out on disgusting message boards.

Oh, right. Thankfully I was unaware.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.



:eyepoop:

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Jedit posted:

Oh, right. Thankfully I was unaware.

Given his other tweets you're probably still onto something. He does quote that line from Dazed and Confused about high school girls.

Dawgstar fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Mar 26, 2019

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Internet libertarians are very familiar with age of consent laws. I wonder why that is.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Skwirl posted:

He's a child predator too? I'm not surprised but I'd only read a couple of the accusations from adults.

Heard he went after a 16 year old, but that could just be an idel rumour.

Endless Mike posted:

Internet libertarians are very familiar with age of consent laws. I wonder why that is.

Remember Transformer 3 and how the MC kept Texas' Romeo-And-Juliet law in his wallet? (I think, at least. Never saw the movie but a comedian made fun of the movie for it).

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Covok posted:

Heard he went after a 16 year old, but that could just be an idel rumour.


Remember Transformer 3 and how the MC kept Texas' Romeo-And-Juliet law in his wallet? (I think, at least. Never saw the movie but a comedian made fun of the movie for it).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz9OgW4JAJ8

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


I love how these guys are always like "Yeah no we TOTALLY evolved to gently caress children!" when everything about historical human biology says "No, you idiot, young teens are terrible childbearers and mothers!"

Like, poo poo, early human 14 year olds probably didn't even have the capacity to bear children because of nutritional factors.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Covok posted:

Remember Transformer 3 and how the MC kept Texas' Romeo-And-Juliet law in his wallet? (I think, at least. Never saw the movie but a comedian made fun of the movie for it).

Which also says a lot about Michael Bay.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Dawgstar posted:

Which also says a lot about Michael Bay.

He made Megan Fox audition by putting on a bikini and washing his car.

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Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

she was also like 15 in Bad Boys 2

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