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To be fair it’s written by noted horny weirdo Frank Herbert
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Dune is on sale for $2 today if you want the kindle version. https://smile.amazon.com/Dune-Frank-Herbert-ebook/dp/B00B7NPRY8
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Mar 25, 2019 18:49
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Gurney Halleck is posting from the set: https://www.instagram.com/p/BvU3Qlxg2TV/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1ffgjox41y6n4
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Mar 25, 2019 19:30
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Pham Nuwen posted:The "Ah-h-h" thing was a kind of weird style thing in Dune that always catches me a little bit when I see it after a while https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvxwf1jxdaM&t=24s Vlex posted:Gurney Halleck is posting from the set: I thought they didn't use guns in the Dune universe. 
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Mar 25, 2019 19:39
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Vlex posted:Gurney Halleck is posting from the set: Tremendously rigid rn
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Mar 25, 2019 19:40
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Vlex posted:Gurney Halleck is posting from the set: I don't remember the part where Gurney gets bitten by a cat.
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Mar 25, 2019 19:59
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it was actually a six legged shat
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Mar 25, 2019 20:01
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hawowanlawow posted:it was actually a six legged shat Ah the ol Salusa Secundus Battle Shat. I hear you can't graduate from elementary school there unless you kill one wearing nothing but a thong.
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Mar 25, 2019 20:08
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How did Gurney and Duncan get freed from Harkonnen bondage? Did the Atreides just sometimes attack Geidi Prime to free slaves? And was stuff like that, and blowing up their secret spice cache, deemed acceptably minor to count as “assassination actions” to gain Guild consent for transport? Honestly I wouldn’t mind seeing that scene played out. It would let us have another look at Geidi Prime at least.
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Mar 25, 2019 21:43
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Liquid Dinosaur posted:How did Gurney and Duncan get freed from Harkonnen bondage? Did the Atreides just sometimes attack Geidi Prime to free slaves? And was stuff like that, and blowing up their secret spice cache, deemed acceptably minor to count as “assassination actions” to gain Guild consent for transport?
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Mar 25, 2019 21:58
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Nessus posted:I had always parsed it as Gurney and Duncan being freed from an off-planet Harkonnen site. The Guild seems OK with shuttling raid squads around, the Atreides even teamed up with the Fremen to go gently caress up some spice hoard or other before the Duke went down. I thought that was on Arrakis itself, Harkonnen remnants/saboteurs?
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Mar 25, 2019 22:08
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Vlex posted:I thought that was on Arrakis itself, Harkonnen remnants/saboteurs? They actually went offworld and did it, the madmen: "Use some of Idaho’s men. And perhaps some of the Fremen would enjoy a trip off planet. A raid on Giedi Prime – there are tactical advantages to such a diversion, Thufir." "..." "The Baron chewed at his lower lip, consoling himself that the Emperor, at least, had not learned of the Atreides raid on Giedi Prime, the destruction of the Harkonnen spice stores there."
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Mar 25, 2019 22:19
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Yeah, the Guild'll transport your ship wherever you want to go, you just can't fight on board a heighliner. Probably learned that one the hard way, knowing people. But then you get there and you can touch down and start cracking heads.
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Mar 26, 2019 19:09
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phasmid posted:Yeah, the Guild'll transport your ship wherever you want to go, you just can't fight on board a heighliner. Probably learned that one the hard way, knowing people. But then you get there and you can touch down and start cracking heads. Navigator "Huh, suddenly none of these trajectories get us to Ix. Why is that?" *minutes later* -- ATTENTION: HULL BREACH < ALL DECKS > --
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Mar 26, 2019 19:15
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There’s definitely a bit about the Guild charging exorbitant fees to transport large numbers of troops, so large invasion forces are pretty much impossible for anyone to afford.
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Mar 26, 2019 19:15
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Testikles posted:Navigator "Huh, suddenly none of these trajectories get us to Ix. Why is that?" lol yeah, that's what I was thinking. Trigger discipline is very important if you're using a laser gun.
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Mar 26, 2019 19:20
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The baron quotes the cost of his and the emperor's action against duke Leto as roughly equal to the total profit from spice export from arrakis for forty years I think
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Mar 26, 2019 19:35
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Which kind of makes you wonder what the space dwelling fish people spend all their money on. Like what are they buying that is so pricey and in such large quantities? spice
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Mar 26, 2019 19:45
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Testikles posted:Which kind of makes you wonder what the space dwelling fish people spend all their money on. Like what are they buying that is so pricey and in such large quantities?
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Mar 26, 2019 20:07
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Testikles posted:Which kind of makes you wonder what the space dwelling fish people spend all their money on. Like what are they buying that is so pricey and in such large quantities? They eat it.
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Mar 26, 2019 21:27
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D. Ebdrup posted:At the start of Dune, the Spacing Guild has a complete monopoly on space travel, and it's even implied that simply getting into space involves their ships, since it's mentioned in the first book that the Fremen spend a lot of bribes to keep weather control out of Low-Arrakis-Orbit. I think it's also implied that they keep the smugglers quiet with bribes, I think? I wanna say the smugglers are more or less in business with the Fremen but I could be remembering wrong. If that's true though I doubt much bribery is necessary since screwing the Fremen would screw themselves out of good business.
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Mar 26, 2019 21:47
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I always imagined that folding space required a heroic dose of spice to achieve. Multiply those needs over a galaxy and there's your overhead.
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Mar 26, 2019 23:08
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That, plus they have to finance the construction of their ships and stations somehow, though they could easily do that by just accepting construction projects as payments against future transport needs of the builders, etc. the infrastructure and culture of the guild would be a really interesting subject but dune just isn't that kind of book.
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Mar 27, 2019 00:49
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many machines on ix
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Mar 27, 2019 01:15
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Nude machines
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Mar 27, 2019 01:37
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Butter on toast with fresh eggs
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Mar 27, 2019 01:38
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Atreides battle language works the same way.
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Mar 27, 2019 01:52
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Mar 27, 2019 01:52
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Prolonged Priapism posted:Atreides battle language works the same way. So weird head canons right I always imagined it being like , drummed onto a desk/table/thigh sort of like between a visual Morse code and a signed language. I currently work as a sign language interpreter now, and am eager to see how it is portrayed on screen
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Mar 27, 2019 02:04
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Testikles posted:Which kind of makes you wonder what the space dwelling fish people spend all their money on. Like what are they buying that is so pricey and in such large quantities? 
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Mar 27, 2019 02:44
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Jestery posted:So weird head canons right Battle Language is a code, where words are used to replace other words over radio and other comms. The dinner scene has that bit where words are used to provide a subtext to an apparently innocuous conversation, which is not the same thing, I think. Edit: the talk with hands thing was a BG thing.
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Mar 27, 2019 02:51
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The dinner scene definitely has some code words in it, IIRC it's Jessica who recognizes Leto using them before he takes off to deal with something.
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Mar 27, 2019 02:55
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exmachina posted:Battle Language is a code, where words are used to replace other words over radio and other comms. When Paul meets Gurney later in the first book, Gurney warns Paul of untrustworthy people among the smugglers using a subtle movement of the hand, so I think it's a mix of code words, body language and other signals. "‘Little enough profit in our venture,’ Paul said, and he noted the subtle finger signal flashed to him by Gurney’s right hand – the old hand code out of their past. There were men to fear and distrust in the smuggler crew. Paul pulled at his lip to indicate he understood, looked up at the men standing guard above them on the rocks."
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Mar 27, 2019 03:02
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exmachina posted:Battle Language is a code, where words are used to replace other words over radio and other comms. Oh yeah, this is entirely a , my 14 year old head thought dumb things,.
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Mar 27, 2019 03:04
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And Hawat has some system to indicate that he's checked a place out and it's clean, like in spy tradecraft. It's flexible enough that it works when the viewer hasn't been in that space before - Jessica knows that Hawat has checked the conservatory. Basically they've got every sort of secret code and signal possible, which is part of what made reading it at 15 rad.
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Mar 27, 2019 03:14
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Jestery posted:Oh yeah, this is entirely a , my 14 year old head thought dumb things,. Nah it's both. Gurney wasn't BG yet he used "sign language".
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Mar 27, 2019 03:24
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It's like special forces/diving hand signals I think, designed to be discreet. With the Guild charging huge fees for invasion forces I imagine that encouraged every Great House with a brain to spend centuries developing their own brands of special forces on crack.
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Mar 27, 2019 03:41
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The Bene Gesserit skill was to hold one innocuous and boring conversation spoken aloud to fool listeners while simultaneously having the true and secret communication occur with concealed sign language without either suffering losses of fidelity or telltale delays etc. I believe it comes up in Messiah first but I don't remember.
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Mar 27, 2019 03:41
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andrew smash posted:The Bene Gesserit skill was to hold one innocuous and boring conversation spoken aloud to fool listeners while simultaneously having the true and secret communication occur with concealed sign language without either suffering losses of fidelity or telltale delays etc. I believe it comes up in Messiah first but I don't remember. Hmmmm. Aaaaaaaaaaah, hmm. Ummm.
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sebmojo posted:Hmmmm. Aaaaaaaaaaah, hmm. Ummm. Count Fenring and his wife have something similar as you point out but it doesn't involve signing, it's a private code language. It seems to be entirely between the two of them also, not something other BGs use.
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