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baquerd posted:Unless we're about to wreak havoc on the economy and populace of the majority of other industrialized nations in some manner, taking on debt today is not like taking on debt in WWII. Steph here is technically correct from a certain point of view, but apparently either ignored the context of WWII or the context was not in your quote. "Historical context matters" claims guy who immediately invoked the Weimar Republic when he saw a mention of printing money
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crazypeltast52 posted:Adam Smith’s use of landlord is the same that Henry George used, as far as the right to use a particular parcel. Georgist land taxes rest on the principle that the improvements represent productive investment and the marginal product of the land itself should be the property of the state. A landlord renting out an apartment unit and a groundlord with a 100 year ground lease have very different profiles. I greatly appreciate the history and context you're providing. I agree that there is a difference on holding land and maintaining a property on said land. I am unfamiliar with the works of George and want to spend some time learning more about your argument. Bryter posted:"Historical context matters" claims guy who immediately invoked the Weimar Republic when he saw a mention of printing money Nope, check again, not me who brought that up.
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Adam Smith’s use of landlord is a hereditary aristocrat who will never be subject to estate or property taxes extracting rents from tenant farmers or sharecroppers, depending on the level of exploitation. A modern landlord as the term is used is much more of a capital player instead of a land player as one of the four factors of production in economics.
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baquerd posted:Nope, check again, not me who brought that up. baquerd posted:Yeah, inflation and particularly hyper inflation is pretty much just a conspiracy and has never triggered things such as the actual birth of the Nazi party or the collapse of multiple nations, that would be crazy talk. It must have been someone else logged on to your account I guess, apologies
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crazypeltast52 posted:Adam Smith’s use of landlord is a hereditary aristocrat who will never be subject to estate or property taxes extracting rents from tenant farmers or sharecroppers, depending on the level of exploitation. inherited wealth in the us isnt real, it is impossible for rented properties to be passed down to relatives, and property taes exist in every state. the property taxes that do exist always offset the wealth gained from rent seeking, these are all completly true Agean90 fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Mar 27, 2019 |
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Bryter posted:It must have been someone else logged on to your account I guess, apologies Please do not apologize and please accept my apology. It seems I was the first to bring up this relation against my faulty memory.
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Man this subforum is so polite, even if you are all bourgeois dogs.
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baquerd posted:Somewhat pertinent video on the cost of rent versus wages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_for_Economic_Education#Funding_details Wikipedia posted:The Foundation for Economic Education (FEE) is a libertarian economic think-tank dedicated to the "economic, ethical and legal principles of a free society." https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/global-warming/climate-deniers/front-groups/foundation-for-economic-education-fee/ Greenpeace posted:$353,167 from Koch foundations, 2000-2017. 
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This thread is getting a ton of reports and is in danger of being moved to D&D
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crazypeltast52 posted:Adam Smith’s use of landlord is a hereditary aristocrat who will never be subject to estate or property taxes extracting rents from tenant farmers or sharecroppers, depending on the level of exploitation. If taxes do not eliminate the gains from charging rent, then it's nothing more than a fee for the right to charge rent. And what estate tax?
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Simpsons Reference posted:This thread is getting a ton of reports and is in danger of being moved to D&D Send it to CSPAM
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Simpsons Reference posted:This thread is getting a ton of reports and is in danger of being moved to D&D Please send it to C-SPAM.
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This thread absolutely belongs in CSPAM. Thank you and god bless.
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Maybe actually send the brigaders talking about executing landlords back to CSPAM and leave the thread here?
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Long time thread participant here. Fourthing sending it to C-SPAM. If we can't defend our life choices without crying for the mods, the discomfort is pointing to some unexamined ideas that need some introspection.
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hello landlord thread, just popping in to let you all know that i look forward to the day when your kind are washed from the earth by the white hot rage of the proletariat, and i hope in my lifetime to hear the pathetic pleading as blood boils and the eyes melt out of your very skulls. well, have a good one catch you later!
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BEHOLD: MY CAPE posted:Maybe actually send the brigaders talking about executing landlords back to CSPAM and leave the thread here? It's pretty funny that you're calling the forums cops to evict us from your landlord thread
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poopinmymouth posted:Long time thread participant here. Fourthing sending it to C-SPAM. If we can't defend our life choices without crying for the mods, the discomfort is pointing to some unexamined ideas that need some introspection. As an super-active participant in the discussion yesterday, I can say truthfully say that I reported no one. Speech and thought should be free. BEHOLD: MY CAPE posted:Maybe actually send the brigaders talking about executing landlords back to CSPAM and leave the thread here? BFC is the last bastion of capitalism on SA. It's one of the few places where capitalistic thought can be freely talked about on SA. Please do not send BFC threads to C-SPAM.
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HiHo ChiRho posted:It's pretty funny that you're calling the forums cops to evict us from your landlord thread No I just think joking about violence on the internet is a lot less funny than it was a couple weeks ago, even if it is against mean old landlords. I certainly welcome anybody who wants to have an actual reasonably topical discussion about problems that can be solved in real ways other than murder and violent appropriation of private property
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baquerd posted:BFC is the last bastion of capitalism on SA. It's one of the few places where capitalistic thought can be freely talked about on SA. Please do not send BFC threads to C-SPAM. Sounds like you're afraid to be challenged in a venue where you can't call the forum cops
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baquerd posted:BFC is the last bastion of capitalism on SA. It's one of the few places where capitalistic thought can be freely talked about on SA. Please do not send BFC threads to C-SPAM. Capitalism is killing this planets ability to support our species and will at this rate see us extinct within 150 years or so throw this thread to CSPAM
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baquerd posted:Unless we're about to wreak havoc on the economy and populace of the majority of other industrialized nations in some manner, taking on debt today is not like taking on debt in WWII. Steph here is technically correct from a certain point of view, but apparently either ignored the context of WWII or the context was not in your quote. Wait until someone tells this guy about Climate Change. @mods Squatters rights, you can't send us anywhere after a day of lawful posting.
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BEHOLD: MY CAPE posted:No I just think joking about violence on the internet is a lot less funny than it was a couple weeks ago, even if it is against mean old landlords. I certainly welcome anybody who wants to have an actual reasonably topical discussion about problems that can be solved in real ways other than murder and violent appropriation of private property The murder of people and the violent appropriation of common land that was made private is the only reason why you are able to extract rent in the first place. If you are against such violent appropriations, I suggest you make things right and donate your real estate back for the common good.
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baquerd posted:BFC is the last bastion of capitalism on SA. It's one of the few places where capitalistic thought can be freely talked about on SA. Please do not send BFC threads to C-SPAM. Sorry mate, no safe space for capitalists I know its not related but with those flags I like to think this is the inevitable revolution of trans folk
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poopinmymouth posted:Just curious, on this topic, once another party is doing the management, what's the moral justification for rent extraction? Thermopyle posted:I mean...where are people going to live? Yea, move this poo poo to C-SPAM. Also, poopinmymouth gets a big  from me for being the only poster to push the idea that human life matters and this whole thing isn't just about raising rent as much as possible.
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HiHo ChiRho posted:It's pretty funny that you're calling the forums cops to evict us from your landlord thread lmao BEHOLD: MY CAPE posted:No I just think joking about violence on the internet is a lot less funny than it was a couple weeks ago, even if it is against mean old landlords. I certainly welcome anybody who wants to have an actual reasonably topical discussion about problems that can be solved in real ways other than murder and violent appropriation of private property landlording requires the credible threat of state violence on people using an otherwise unused house. Your problem with violence on the part of the tenant trying to keep from being evicted isn't that it's violence, it's that it's being used to keep landlords from taking stuff from the people who are using it. Ruzihm fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Mar 27, 2019 |
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I support this, and other such endeavours.
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still awaiting anyone willing to entertain my points earlier, it's terrible that private landlords set such poor posting standards
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What up, landlords. Question for you, what's it like being a blood-sucking parasite? Do you actually bite onto your tenants and suck the money out through your tentacles or is that just a metaphor? Oh well, at least you're not lettings agents, am I right? Ahahahahahaha. But seriously, you're all terrible people. So what's it like to know that someone's human right to shelter is less important than your human right to a large bank balance?
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baquerd posted:Speech and thought should be free. But food, water, and shelter are commodities and their value should be determined by the market!  I vote to combine BFC with CSPAM so the bourgeois have no peace on the forums.
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The Ghoul posted:But food, water, and shelter are commodities and their value should be determined by the market! Maybe Lowtax can save his spine by putting up a double paywall around BFC
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or charge $50 in monthly rent to post in BFC, and just hike it up by  every year for shits and giggles
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Alright, I'm reopening it without handing out probations, but with a word of caution: The thread is for discussing owning rental property and its issues. Occasionally the non-financial aspects as well. Sending the wealthy to the guillotine is a funny running gag that I imagine even the thread regulars enjoy.... in moderation. When it begins to prevent actual discussion about the thread topic, that's where I have to step in. So if you're just here to brigade from C-SPAM, stop. No one goes to your place of business and knocks the hammer and sickle out of your hands.
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Does collective ownership count for the purposes of the thread topic? Unironic question (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Simpsons Reference posted:Alright, I'm reopening it without handing out probations, but with a word of caution: (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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