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Leraika posted:iirc Jynx is based on a mountain hag, which is another type of yokai. People have been trying to attribute a lot of things to Jynx in an attempt to make her more, ahhh, palapable, from weird mermaid, to mountain hags, to yukionnas, to viking lore, to just a personaification of the ol singing fat lady (which also goes back to viking lore). I think if they ever give Jynx an evolution or mega, they probably would double down on one of those (the opera aspect, i'd guess) buuttttttttt at some point maybe people need to stop throwing things at the wall here.
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Arcade Rabbit posted:FF7 had one too. They're a very stock youkai sort of character, a lot of Japanese fantasy will have one or allude to one in some way. Yeah, the E4 designs are a bit iffy since I assume they were all done totally by hand and not just an edit but hers is really cute. 
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rannum posted:People have been trying to attribute a lot of things to Jynx in an attempt to make her more, ahhh, palapable, from weird mermaid, to mountain hags, to yukionnas, to viking lore, to just a personaification of the ol singing fat lady (which also goes back to viking lore). It seems much more plausible that the seductive ice spirit is based off the seductive ice spirit than a foreign god or operatic tradition or a specific race of people. Like, to the point that before the brouhaha came about, young me of the 90s just saw a Yuki-Onna reference, same as I saw Kitsune in Vulpix and Ninetails.
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Mar 27, 2019 17:30
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Jynx is a ganguro reference though
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Draxion posted:Jynx is a Fixed.
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well, yeah, ganguro's pretty mad racist and the design screams "nobody really thought about this at all huh"
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 Hello everyone and welcome back. We're very close to the end of the Holon region, so let's see this through.  Professor Maple ran off to the Holon Undercave, so in order to follow him we have to return to the lake ourselves. And I'd rather not walk down the mountain again so...  You ever wonder if we're abusing the PikaTaxi guy's generosity?    La ti da... returning to the undercave...   This doesn't look good.  See, Professor Pine! Even your renowned Noivern isn't strong enough to stop me!You would think that Pine would have something that either resists water, rock, or fighting. Because his Regice knows Ancient Power, Water Spout, and Hammer Arm. The three Delta Regis will belong to me! I'll be so incredibly powerful! Gyahaha! You can't stop me. You can't stop us. Nothing can match the pure strength of legendary pokemon. And now, my pokemon have even surpassed the original Regi trio. Heck, maybe I'll find Regigigas. Just to complete the set, y'know? I'm unstoppable. Just try.  Amy... He's gone power-mad. You're the Augur, right? You have experience with this kind of thing. But... I'm not sure even you can take him on alone. Not when he has so many powerful Delta legendary pokemon. But...  We didn't come to the region to study Deltas. That was all a cover- although, we're definitely happy to be doing that now. Our organization was sponsored by the Second Augur, Jaern. You know, before he was outed as a cult leader. His crystal was reacting to something in the far north, at the peak of the mountain, and he wanted us to find it. After he was outed as the leader of the Sky Cult, we sealed that area off. If that filthy traitor was getting involved... well, we didn't want to know. But now that we've seen the legendary golems in this region as well as their Delta counterparts... If I'm right, hopefully it can help you out. Listen, if you head to Settlement Juliet, I can radio the guards to let you to the peak. Whatever's up there... it might be our only chance at taking Maple down. And I should say... Maple's not as smart as he thinks he is if he thinks that we don't have Master Balls too. Yoink! We'll be holding onto this for a rainy day. And right now it's not raining. Be careful- as soon as you find what's up there... well, I'm sure Maple won't be too far behind. Back to the mountaintop we go!   The guard is gone now, leaving us free access to the Gaea Core.  The Gaea Core is a very short cave. It's one of the only places in the game that you can find Unown, as well as the only place in the game that wild Beheyem appear. It's also our first chance to catch Smeargle in the wild outside of Friend Safari shenanigans, or making a trade in Helios City.  It's mostly a straight shot to the back.   Been a while since we've seen one of these.  No points in guessing who this is.          ...yikes. Primal Regigigas looks stupid. Its BST jumps from 670 to 740, and its Ability changes from Slow Start to Unaware. Let's combo it!   It instantly breaks out, but is put straight to sleep.   Regigigas has a catch rate of 3. Multiply that by 2.5x for being asleep. (7.5) Then multiply that by 5 for the Ancient Ball. (37.5) Not too bad! That's just a little higher than Ditto's base rate.    ...no? Why would I need a crutch like that?   I see I'm too late. I was hoping to complete the entire collection... But I guess it's worthless. Regigigas isn't a Delta Species, after all. It was a valiant attempt, Amy. I'll give you that. But Delta Species are the way of the future. Even if you do have Regigigas on your side... you can't stop me. Nobody can stop me. I screenshot his laughs so I don't have to type out each "ha". I'm going to take you down. Even you, the Augur, don't stand a chance against me. Not anymore! Not even with Regigigas! Let me show you now, Amy! Let me show you my incredible power!  Have you ever suddenly felt really bad for the bad guy? He has no idea of the type of rear end kicking he's just walked into.   Maple starts off by trying the same tactic we used quite a few times.   Cirno very nearly one shots his Charizard in return.  His Shadow Ball barely tickles, even buffed up like that.  Show of hands, who's surprised?  The second Ice Beam rolls higher and brings D Charizard down much lower.  Maple burns his last Full Restore trying to keep his Mega upright.  Cirno's Ice Beam rolls even higher and very nearly one shots it.  And now without any healing, the Charizard finally goes down on the fourth? Fourth turn.      Delta Registeel is pure Fire type. Its abilities are Flame Body and Foundry (Hidden; Rock-type moves, when used, melt and become Fire Type). The only rock move it learns naturally is Ancient Power. It's the equal defenses Regi, but now with an attacking type. So you can guess just how useful it is.  I guess Maple is really counting on that Charizard. That's his last healing item left, by the way. So he bet everything on his own Dracolich.  Given that ScubaSteve only has a couple levels on Registeel, that's not a bad hit at all.    Seriously dude. I get wanting to use Delta Charizard to its fullest, but take it from me... it has the defenses of a wet paper bag. It can't stand up to repeated abuse like this.   ScubaSteve's Life Orb hurts it for more than the Dark Pulse did. Also at some point Noctem's darkness seems to have faded.      Delta Regirock is pure Ground type. Its two abilities are Sand Veil and Dry Skin (Hidden). Guess which ability this one has.  ...yeah.  Earthquake takes Steve out.  Cirno, meanwhile, fucks it right up with Ice Beam.  This is potentially dangerous, but Aragog is my only other answer to fire at the moment.  Turns out to not be a problem.      Delta Regice is pure water type. Its two abilities are Water Veil and Storm Drain (Hidden). 200 base SpDef is pretty beefy.  A supereffective hit from Cirno took it down by what looks like 1/3.  Ancient Power hurts quite a bit more on our gal.  They trade a few more times until Cirno finally finishes frying it.  Sadly her job is not yet done.  Dark/Fighting type, meet Moonblast.  I don't really have a good answer to Delta Venusaur, so here's Virulence to put a ticking clock on the fight.  Yikes.   But the damage has been done.  Virulence goes down on the next turn as expected.  So why not have a little fun with Glory?   Multiscale is paying off already. It cut a supereffective attack by quite a bit.  Glory can survive one more Moonblast.  Yikes. Looks like Multiscale cut the incoming damage by more than I expected. If that had crit, my plans would have gone up in smoke.    Hahahaha. Whose Deltas were better?  That's impossible. My Deltas are superior! Unbeatable! You must have cheated! Sabotaged me! Amy's 10. She's not a university student. She's not even a middle school student. Nevermind. I'll bide my time for now. I'll- In comes Pine with the save! Just give it up. You can't arrest me! I'm the leading researcher at Holon University! I've won awards! I've captured legendaries! I have tenure!  ...jeez. Listen, Amy. I owe you one. Maybe two. I can't really repay you for all you've done for Holon- helping us with our research, exploring the region, and stopping Professor Maple. Listen, I'm sure you know about my pokeball inventions. It's not much, but hopefully this can help you out. She gave us twenty of them! That's $50,000 worth of goods. Again... thank you. The idea of such a young Augur weirded me out at first, but, y'know... If anyone is worthy of that position, it's you. Hopefully you don't turn out to be a traitor too, eh?Wow. gently caress you.      NEXT TIME: Well, that's up to you all.
The last vote, as you may recall, was 22 to 21 in favor of going to Holon. So if you all like, we could honor those 21 votes by continuing the Hunt for Taen now. However, we could also quite easily go and get Relic Song, help out the kid in Deyraan Town, or even return to the Nightmare Realm.
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Mar 27, 2019 20:18
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Let's finish off that Relic Song quest.
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Mar 27, 2019 20:30
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Let's get Relic Song out of the way. I've always loved Meloetta.
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Mar 27, 2019 20:33
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Relic Song is my vote too. We're gonna continue to pass those walls, we may as well take a detour to finally be able to open them.
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Draxion posted:Relic Song is my vote too. We're gonna continue to pass those walls, we may as well take a detour to finally be able to open them. I was going to suggest going back to Nightmare, it was implied that we might be able to help poor Damian there, but this makes sense. Taen can wait, he should be used to last place anyway 
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Hunt for Taen I really like the designs for the delta regis, each basically just being a melted version of the regular ones, with the type changes that implies. Also, delta Registeel's shiny is really neat. Primal Regigigas on the other hand... I can see what they were going for but yeah thats ugly.
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Mar 27, 2019 20:44
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If one of the options is helping Damian then we should do that, poor guy deserves it.
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Zakrelo posted:I really like the designs for the delta regis, each basically just being a melted version of the regular ones, with the type changes that implies. Also, delta Registeel's shiny is really neat. Primal Regigigas on the other hand... I can see what they were going for but yeah thats ugly. I agree with pretty much all of this, though there's a part of me that thinks it's pretty silly that they've kept their same names. Then again, it'd probably be worse if they were called Regifire and Regiwater or whatever, those flow even worse than the original names did... Regigigas itself is pretty ugly, so I'm not surprised trying to give it another form didn't work out too well. I don't think there's much interesting that could've been done with it, really. I'll vote for Relic Song, let's get that out of the way. It's been teasing us long enough already.
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"Undefeatable" is one of those words that just sounds...wrong. Also, I kinda like that these Deltas are what happens if the originals are put under extreme pressure.
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Mar 27, 2019 21:10
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Let’s just do the relic song thing
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Rabbi Raccoon posted:"Undefeatable" is one of those words that just sounds...wrong. Undefeatable is a truly indefatigable word
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Relic walls are everywhere and it mostly sounds like they gate stuff that it's kinda silly to throw up multiple barriers for anyway. Might as well get it out of the way now, really.
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Mar 27, 2019 21:33
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Get rid of the Relic stuff so we can go beat the poo poo out of Taen with no distractions afterwards.
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Blaze Dragon posted:Get rid of the Relic stuff so we can go beat the poo poo out of Taen with no distractions afterwards. This. Also holy poo poo, "you can't do this, I have tenure!" had me giggling like an idiot.
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The delta regis are great concepts and designs
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Mar 27, 2019 22:09
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Let's get that Relic Song stuff done! Also loving amazing her going 'well hopefully you don't betray us too?' 
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Y'all are crazy, Primal Regigias looks rad, giving the thread a one out of spite.  (Voting for the Relic Song quest.)
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Vandar posted:Y'all are crazy, Primal Regigias looks rad, giving the thread a one out of spite. I gave it a five out of spite for your spite Also it looks dumb but that's fine because the Delta Regis are neat and I like that their types aren't randomly chosen...except for Registeel since it suddenly turned from steel to lava, somehow.
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I should clarify... Relic Song will take all of a single update to get, maybe two if I dedicate one update to getting everything it locks off. So if it wins, then the second place winner will be what we do after that.
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Blaze Dragon posted:I gave it a five out of spite for your spite I didn't actually give it a one, you know.
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Vandar posted:I didn't actually give it a one, you know. Well I did actually give it a five and think it is very deserved.
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Delta Regigigas is definitely one of those things that's cool in concept, kinda eh in execution. Replacing Slow Start with almost anything is good, and Unaware is a decent ability (if not the best, even if we aren't looking to bust Regigigas). Having it only gain 70 total base stats seems strange (though it also gains the highest base Attack in the game, beating out even Mega Mewtwo X; I'm not sure that was worth 10 points in Sp. Defense, though?). ...Also the design is weird. Relic Song seems to be a lock, so I'm gonna vote Nightmare Realm for the updates after that.
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Relic Song Then introduce Taen to the dumpster, again
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iospace posted:Relic Song
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Mar 28, 2019 01:54
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Since Relic song is going to win, let's do Nightmare realm next and save our best friend.
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iospace posted:Relic Song
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Relic Song then Save Damien Let Taern stew in his mediocrity before we completely humiliate him.
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Kitfox88 posted:Let's get that Relic Song stuff done!
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Relic Song then Save Damien. Taen can wallow in his failure for a while longer.
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Kurieg posted:Relic Song then Save Damien. Taen can wallow in his failure for a while longer. Yeah, this works for me.
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Kurieg posted:Relic Song then Save Damien. Taen can wallow in his failure for a while longer. I vote for this.
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