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paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://twitter.com/ahmadsaman7/status/1110236365671882753

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Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

paul_soccer10 posted:

i bet he thought up the whole thing himself what a keen lad

we love and respect jared here

420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

https://twitter.com/KalmanYeger/status/1110939415621312512
https://twitter.com/KalmanYeger/status/1110948691760820224

RaySmuckles
Oct 14, 2009


:vapes:
Grimey Drawer
dti

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747
https://twitter.com/WestFortyNinth/status/657263352692015104

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://vimeo.com/143668309
ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD | Israel/Palestine | Hebrew & Arabic | 68" | 2013

Former West Bank settler Lia Tarachansky looks at Israelis’ collective amnesia of the fateful events of 1948 when the state of Israel was born and most of the Palestinians became refugees.
She follows the transformation of Israeli veterans trying uncover their denial of the war that changed the region forever.
Tarachansky then turns the camera on herself and travels back to her settlement where that historical erasure gave birth to a new generation, blind and isolated from its surroundings. Attempting to shed a light on the country’s biggest taboo, she is met with outrage and violence.

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

wrap it up Gantzailures

https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/1114587779722301440

qkkl
Jul 1, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
Emperor Bibi

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




the lesson of the holocaust was be germany af but also friends with america and russia.

galenanorth
May 19, 2016

maybe the U.S. should sanction the Netanyahu regime like they've sanctioned the Ortega regime in Nicaragua

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1114897567593181185

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




is that a pregnant silhouette?

galenanorth
May 19, 2016

Real hurthling! posted:

is that a pregnant silhouette?

Yes, the Israeli Defense Force itself is referencing the racist emoji meme wherein Arab fetuses are preparing Molotov cocktails and bombs in the womb

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747
it seems to me ive seen anti-jewish stuff similar to that made by nazis
:thunk:

Segata Sanshiro
Sep 10, 2011

we can live for nothing
baby i don't care

lose me like the ocean
feel the motion

:coolfish:

it's ok to be a nazi if you're israeli

just like it's ok to be a mccarthyist as long as you're a dem

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/mbsocol/status/1114904545560289280
https://twitter.com/AliceAvizandum/status/1115188526604345350

Truniht
Jan 10, 2019

lebensraum for Jews

galenanorth
May 19, 2016


How much autonomy do the West Bank and Gaza have? To what extent can Israel's national legislature legislate what goes on there, in addition to the occupation? For example, suppose they passed homophobic legislation or gay rights laws. Would these have to be enforced over laws passed by elected West Bank and Gaza legislators?

THS
Sep 15, 2017


jesus

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




galenanorth posted:

How much autonomy do the West Bank and Gaza have? To what extent can Israel's national legislature legislate what goes on there, in addition to the occupation? For example, suppose they passed homophobic legislation or gay rights laws. Would these have to be enforced over laws passed by elected West Bank and Gaza legislators?

gaza is independent post israeli pullout like 20 years ago and under seige/blockade since the election of hamas

the wb is administered 3 different ways. theres areas A B and C
A is under palestinian authority which for many years has been a puppet of israel
B is partly controlled by israel
C is well over half the total land and run by israel for the benefit of its settlers.

your question about gay rights is pretty ironic because the israeli apologists always point to their begrudged tolerance of pride parades as proof that they are holding back the bigotry of the muslim hordes.

galenanorth
May 19, 2016

Thank you. I knew better and could've used a better example; that would've been stepping on a rake anywhere else

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

galenanorth posted:

How much autonomy do the West Bank and Gaza have? To what extent can Israel's national legislature legislate what goes on there, in addition to the occupation? For example, suppose they passed homophobic legislation or gay rights laws. Would these have to be enforced over laws passed by elected West Bank and Gaza legislators?

the closest thing to a simple answer I can give is "it depends". authority in the Palestinian territories is a very complicated situation, made even more complex by the fact that official legal authority often takes a backseat to who has the military power to exert their will

in area C, which makes up about 60% of the West Bank, the primary authority is the Israeli military which governs the area under martial law. the Palestinian police and security forces don't operate there, and law and order is under the full control of Israeli military authorities. naturally, civil rights are rather abridged there...

unless you're an Israeli Jew living in a settlement, in which case you're mostly covered by Israeli civil law rather than military law. this isn't usually noticed by the media because it takes a piecemeal law-by-law approach. sometimes, the military administration creates laws that essentially say that certain Israeli civil laws apply in certain chunks of territory that just happen to line up exactly with the borders of settlements. sometimes the Knesset passes laws that apply to all Israeli citizens regardless of whether they're currently in Israeli civil jurisdiction. this leads to a two-tier legal system in area C where Israeli residents get most of the benefits of Israeli civilian law while Palestinians are subject solely to military law

area A, about 20% of the West Bank, is supposed to be under full PA control (for the purposes of this post, "PA" will mean the Fatah-controlled version of the Palestinian Authority that holds lower in the West Bank). in theory, only PA law applies and Israel has no authority there at all. in practice, Israeli forces routinely raid into area A and arrest people under Israeli military law, typically with the cooperation of the PA security forces

area B, the remaining ~20% of the West Bank, is under joint Israeli/Palestinian administration, and therefore subject to both PA and IDF law. but since the population there is almost exclusively Palestinian, that just means the IDF gets to arrest Palestinians there

as for the Gaza strip, it's officially under the authority and laws of the Fatah-controlled version of the Palestinian Authority. but in practice, it's still completely under the authority and laws of the Hamas-controlled version of the Palestinian Authority. the security forces patrolling the streets and arresting people are the ones hired by the Hamas administration, not the Fatah administration

staticman
Sep 12, 2008

Be gay
Death to America
Suck my dick Israel
Mess with Texas
and remember to lmao

Truniht posted:

manifest destiny for Jews

ftfy

Never forget who inspired the nazis, and never forgive.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Real hurthling! posted:

gaza is independent post israeli pullout like 20 years ago and under seige/blockade since the election of hamas

the wb is administered 3 different ways. theres areas A B and C
A is under palestinian authority which for many years has been a puppet of israel
B is partly controlled by israel
C is well over half the total land and run by israel for the benefit of its settlers.

your question about gay rights is pretty ironic because the israeli apologists always point to their begrudged tolerance of pride parades as proof that they are holding back the bigotry of the muslim hordes.

The total blockade of Gaza means it's still being "occupied," even if Israel removed its settlements.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The total blockade of Gaza means it's still being "occupied," even if Israel removed its settlements.

right. apologies for inference otherwize

qkkl
Jul 1, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The total blockade of Gaza means it's still being "occupied," even if Israel removed its settlements.

Leningrad was completely blockaded for years, but was never occupied.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

qkkl posted:

Leningrad was completely blockaded for years, but was never occupied.

An occupation is when a foreign government provisionally controls your territory by force. Leningrad's siege was lifted several times, but that's really besides the point. Israel enforces a total blockade over Gaza, which means they control its access to territorial waters, and its foreign policy. Israel does this because they claim sovereignty over Gaza which the Hamas government defies. That's an "occupation," even if there aren't IDF soldiers on the ground bossing everybody around.

qkkl
Jul 1, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

An occupation is when a foreign government provisionally controls your territory by force. Leningrad's siege was lifted several times, but that's really besides the point. Israel enforces a total blockade over Gaza, which means they control its access to territorial waters, and its foreign policy. Israel does this because they claim sovereignty over Gaza which the Hamas government defies. That's an "occupation," even if there aren't IDF soldiers on the ground bossing everybody around.

Was Leningrad ever occupied when it was under a total blockade?

THS
Sep 15, 2017

qkkl posted:

Was Leningrad ever occupied when it was under a total blockade?

what a fascinating and totally interesting semantic argument you are contributing here. thank you!

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

qkkl posted:

Leningrad was completely blockaded for years, but was never occupied.

Good point, the Israeli policy towards Gaza is as bad as the genocidal siege of Leningrad that caused millions of deaths, as attested to by poster qkkl

THS
Sep 15, 2017

semitic argument

Slutitution
Jun 26, 2018

by Nyc_Tattoo
I guess Israel is about to turn Golan Heights into a concentration camp the size of Rhode Island because Gaza and the West Bank weren't cutting it

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




who lives in golan now? druze and settlers was all i thought were allowed to live there after the capture

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

https://twitter.com/HeshmatAlavi/status/1114901656590790656

Oovee
Jun 21, 2007

No life king.
How long does it take for mail to get out of palestine, assuming it even does? My sis sent me arafat scarf few months ago :/

Bear Retrieval Unit
Nov 5, 2009

Mudslide Experiment

Real hurthling! posted:

who lives in golan now? druze and settlers was all i thought were allowed to live there after the capture

it's pretty much israeli settlments and druze villages, and like 1-2 arab villages that weren't depopulated.

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo
That's not proper flag code! It's missing a whole lot of stars. Otherwise, good hustle.

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Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://twitter.com/AsiaElects/status/1115691508060106754

ron paul 2020

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