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Mantis42 posted:Title? "The sparrows had it coming".
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Mar 27, 2019 09:52
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Mantis42 posted:Title? handle with caution though, that guy works for a cia front
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Mar 27, 2019 09:58
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R. Guyovich posted:the china watcher freaks love elizabeth economy's the third revolution but i started reading it and there were some elementary-level errors so gently caress that there are two things that i'm looking for when asking about a book about china: 1) general ideological lense adopted for analysis and, 2) the extent to which it works as a primer, ie doesn't rely on extensive background knowledge the book i was considering buying was China's Economy: What Everyone Needs to Know by Arthur Kroeber. i heard about it thru an interview with the author*, but reviews and summaries indicated that it fit 2) well. though, because i have a general distrust of western accounts of china, and that dude has affiliations with brookings, i'm wary of starting there. i was also looking at The Chinese Economy: Transitions and Growth by Barry J. Naughton. it seems more comprehensive than the Kroeber book--tho probably even more dry than an already dry-seeming book--and potentially falling to the same ideological blindspots as the Kroeber book. please let me know whether cracking the china conundrum is readable as a primer, ie for an idiot who knows little more about china beyond info gleaned from this thread. *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDuvVEgD0Fg
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Mar 27, 2019 10:24
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You want to know China for what? For Fun, for homework or for business? Elizebath Economy's book is really Bloomberg level general poo poo. You are better of get a theeconomist pass and read their articles. If you really need to know Xi's system, you can just watch CSIS's annual power up round tables. They actually mention insider rumors and stuff. There are other series that discuss China on CSIS. If you just want to know more about China I recommend you start of with China's modern history. Don't waste too much time on books of "Chinese economy". First no economist can explain China's economy and second Chinese economy is not a system. It's part of a bigger system. There is no a set of rules the economy follow. It's dictated by force outside of the economy. tino has issued a correction as of 11:19 on Mar 27, 2019 |
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Mar 27, 2019 11:15
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It's also hard to do good PE reads for China because they don't publish numbers, so you're mostly doing guesswork and working off of whatever western sources you can get, which can be biased or also just guesswork based extrapolating from external trade numbers.
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Mar 27, 2019 11:22
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Finicums Wake posted:what's a good, entry level book for someone wanting to understand china's current political economy? emphasis on entry level. Since you do not read chinese barry naughton chinese economy transition and growth is good up to 2012 or so
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Mar 27, 2019 14:26
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R. Guyovich posted:handle with caution though, that guy works for a cia front It's pretty impressive that the CIA has managed to recruit literally every single non-Han person on the planet
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Mar 27, 2019 18:08
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sincx has issued a correction as of 05:28 on Mar 23, 2021 |
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Mar 27, 2019 18:11
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Darkest Auer posted:It's pretty impressive that the CIA has managed to recruit literally every single non-Han person on the planet even some Han people I'm afraid to say
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Mar 27, 2019 18:24
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sincx has issued a correction as of 05:28 on Mar 23, 2021 |
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Mar 27, 2019 18:50
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sincx posted:The CIA's less good at keeping them alive though. 汉奸, anti-party, anti-Socialist bad elements are of course uprooted to protect Socialist state
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Mar 27, 2019 20:22
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Darkest Auer posted:It's pretty impressive that the CIA has managed to recruit literally every single non-Han person on the planet the author works at the crumpton group. founded by Henry A. Crumpton. shut da gently caress up
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Mar 27, 2019 23:23
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If you guys want me to believe that all this bad stuff I hear about China is all lies, why not just go full Tankie and embrace Stalinism as well?
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Mar 27, 2019 23:53
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CountFosco posted:If you guys want me to believe that all this bad stuff I hear about China is all lies, why not just go full Tankie and embrace Stalinism as well? Where do you think you're posting
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Mar 28, 2019 00:45
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https://twitter.com/isgoodrum/status/1110986344736739329
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Mar 28, 2019 01:51
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CountFosco posted:If you guys want me to believe that all this bad stuff I hear about China is all lies, why not just go full Tankie and embrace Stalinism as well? why not indeed
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Mar 28, 2019 02:40
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More than 2k replies? Tweet touched some nerves.
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Mar 28, 2019 05:56
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CountFosco posted:If you guys want me to believe that all this bad stuff I hear about China is all lies, why not just go full Tankie and embrace Stalinism as well? Stalinism is the socialism of the 1930s, Deng Xiaoping is the socialism of the 1980s, Xi Jiping thought is the Socialism of the future Saying we should go back to Stalinism is like saying just because you believe in Atheism you need to go back to Darwin's theory of evolution instead of more advance scientific modern day theories! Typo has issued a correction as of 06:05 on Mar 28, 2019 |
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Mar 28, 2019 06:00
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this website is hilarious http://www.crumptongroup.com/ Typo posted:Stalinism is the socialism of the 1930s, Deng Xiaoping is the socialism of the 1980s, Xi Jiping thought is the Socialism of the future lol
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Mar 28, 2019 06:11
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Mar 28, 2019 06:19
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tino posted:More than 2k replies? Tweet touched some nerves. i think that count includes RTs i say swears online posted:this website is hilarious lmao
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Mar 28, 2019 06:48
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The US gov is gonna force the Chinese company that owns Grindr to sell it because there's fears that info will be used as blackmail.
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Mar 28, 2019 07:14
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i say swears online posted:this website is hilarious
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Mar 28, 2019 07:16
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This is an extremely stupid pair of questions, but: * Does China still have toll roads / toll highways? * If yes ... is that ... okay? Shouldn't infrastructure be, uh, state-owned and paid for by government revenues?
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Mar 28, 2019 07:25
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gradenko_2000 posted:This is an extremely stupid pair of questions, but: yes they're being phased out
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Mar 28, 2019 07:43
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gradenko_2000 posted:This is an extremely stupid pair of questions, but: They have more. Think of lot of toll roads like New York state but nationwide.
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Mar 28, 2019 09:54
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tino posted:More than 2k replies? Tweet touched some nerves. The wild ones are the people saying it's feasible because of the population difference
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Mar 28, 2019 10:11
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OhFunny posted:The US gov is gonna force the Chinese company that owns Grindr to sell it because there's fears that info will be used as blackmail. Not surprising. Think of all the Republicans you could hook!
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Mar 28, 2019 11:24
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gradenko_2000 posted:This is an extremely stupid pair of questions, but: If a toll-road is owned by the government, is that not government revenue? Like I agree with the sentiment you’re implying, that roads should be paid for without use fees, but I don’t see why use fees would be inherently objectionable on an ideological basis if they were being enforced in a uniform manner and the roads aren’t privatized. That seems like a civic disagreement more than anything, again assuming the fees are uniform and not private. I sort of also feel that way about stuff like bus and train ticket fees. Like I understand the argument for why they should be free so poor people should be able to use them and I agree, we should make them free at the point of use. But I also see why fees at the point of use would make sense to a person and don’t find that concept outrageous on its face. Then again there have always been toll roads and bus/train fees where I’ve lived so perhaps I’m just suffering normalcy bias. edit: I thought about this a bit more in the shower and it occurred to me it’s sort of like discussions of means testing and I’m reconsidering my position. Lightning Knight has issued a correction as of 12:19 on Mar 28, 2019 |
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Mar 28, 2019 12:05
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Toll roads are pointless if the roads aren't private because you pay for them via your taxes. The only use for a toll road on a 100% government run network of roads is if there's a way to mark industrial vehicles (18 wheelers, etc) since those do way more damage to a road, but again, this is something taxes should take care of via higher industrial taxes.
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Mar 28, 2019 12:27
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pretty much all of the new infrastructure that's been built in my country over the last decade or so have all been through private-public partnerships which then entail the imposition of tolls, and I end up going through two to three toll gates just to drive to my in-laws, and I hate it all with a passion like, the cost could be negligible, and it'd still be a huge hassle from how much traffic and additional wait time it causes
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Mar 28, 2019 12:48
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gradenko_2000 posted:pretty much all of the new infrastructure that's been built in my country over the last decade or so have all been through private-public partnerships which then entail the imposition of tolls, and I end up going through two to three toll gates just to drive to my in-laws, and I hate it all with a passion Don't you guys have ez pass? Even NY switched to a charged-you-credit-card-based-on-your- license-plate system. There is no toll gate.
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Mar 28, 2019 12:59
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Grapplejack posted:Toll roads are pointless if the roads aren't private because you pay for them via your taxes. The only use for a toll road on a 100% government run network of roads is if there's a way to mark industrial vehicles (18 wheelers, etc) since those do way more damage to a road, but again, this is something taxes should take care of via higher industrial taxes. I wouldn't say that, it is a use fee comparable to a ticket on mass transit and people who take mass transit still pay taxes. That road still takes upkeep, and in general auto travel is less efficient than other forms of travel and should come with some fee for use.
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Mar 28, 2019 13:06
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tino posted:Don't you guys have ez pass? Even NY switched to a charged-you-credit-card-based-on-your- license-plate system. There is no toll gate. I'm from the Philippines, and while there is an RFID pass that lets you go through a special lane: * the passes aren't centralized, so you end up needing two to three different passes just to cover all the highways you might be going through * some lanes used to be exclusive for people who had the pass, but so few people had it, and lane exclusivity caused so much build-up at the cash toll booths that most lanes by now are either Cash-only or a hybrid Cash-or-Pass lane, which means you're not really saving a lot of time because the Cash-or-Pass lanes still have lots of cars going through them anyway I wouldn't really mind, say, a tax assessed on your car's mileage, but extracting the fee on the road sucks
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Mar 28, 2019 13:07
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gradenko_2000 posted:I'm from the Philippines, and while there is an RFID pass that lets you go through a special lane: It took a long time for the US systems to accept each other's passes. East coast used to need different passes. I think half of people in China still pay cash. quote:* some lanes used to be exclusive for people who had the pass, but so few people had it, and lane exclusivity caused so much build-up at the cash toll booths that most lanes by now are either Cash-only or a hybrid Cash-or-Pass lane, which means you're not really saving a lot of time because the Cash-or-Pass lanes still have lots of cars going through them anyway quote:I wouldn't really mind, say, a tax assessed on your car's mileage, but extracting the fee on the road sucks Well old roads still exist. If old roads don't exist anymore and/or have converted to highway, you have an argument to bill it on local government tax.
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Mar 28, 2019 13:19
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tino posted:
This is a feature not a bug.
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Mar 28, 2019 14:07
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Ardennes posted:This is a feature not a bug. If you combine the road system of LA and real estate market of HK you get the perfect libertarian hellscape.
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Mar 28, 2019 14:29
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tino posted:If you combine the road system of LA and real estate market of HK you get the perfect libertarian hellscape. ... sf bay area? or was that  anyhow, i got an algorithm i found i'ma call it the June 4 Tienanmen Square algorithm they'll prolly come up with a different name in a few weeks but all you need is a few weeks for various reasons good idea, or the best idea? (other options: Zhao Ziyang memorial algorithm Hu Yaobang memorial algorithm) bob dobbs is dead has issued a correction as of 15:52 on Mar 28, 2019 |
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Mar 28, 2019 15:49
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sincx has issued a correction as of 05:28 on Mar 23, 2021 |
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Mar 28, 2019 18:44
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gradenko_2000 posted:This is an extremely stupid pair of questions, but: Somewhat related, Taiwan does big projects like metros or highspeed rail by partnering with a private firm and letting them be private for ~20 years and then I guess once they've matured they become public owned again. It broke my brain to learn this because I cannot imagine this in the US where we do it the opposite way, public builds it for private profit. I also think this is literally where corporations come from, no? New York needs a bridge build so a bridge building company is incorporated on a 20 year license? When did this reverse in the US
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