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Zore posted:What the gently caress???? Whenever Haxorus uses a physical ability on you he first says "Hey let me AXE you a question!" in perfect English, it's kind of weird but I like it.
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Just a heads up, but Passimian is good now (well maybe). https://twitter.com/SerebiiNet/status/1111223652178112513
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Nasgate posted:A fully evolved dragon Pokemon that doesn't look like garbage is always on my Pokemon wishlist.
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Mar 28, 2019 13:47
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Vegetable posted:Dragonite, Kingdra and Altaria look perfectly fine. Dragonite is pretty goofy-looking. It's also one of the most dramatic evolutionary changes: from a blue, elegant Chinese dragon to an orange, fat European dragon. Gyarados, Milotic, and Salamance all look more like an evolved form of Dragonair than Dragonite does. Edit: Come to think of it, Dragonite looks more like an evolved form of Magikarp than Gyarados does. I can definitely see Magikarp's whiskers becoming Dragonite's antennae, and they're similarly colored. Were the designs for Dragonite and Gyarados swapped or something? Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 14:32 on Mar 28, 2019 |
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Mar 28, 2019 14:19
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Noivern is a glorious bat dragon, top tier. 
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Mar 28, 2019 14:48
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Silver2195 posted:Dragonite is pretty goofy-looking. It's also one of the most dramatic evolutionary changes: from a blue, elegant Chinese dragon to an orange, fat European dragon. Gyarados, Milotic, and Salamance all look more like an evolved form of Dragonair than Dragonite does. Magikarp's dorsal fin is all along Gyarados's back and Gyarados has the same whiskers.
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Silver2195 posted:Dragonite is pretty goofy-looking. It's also one of the most dramatic evolutionary changes: from a blue, elegant Chinese dragon to an orange, fat European dragon. Gyarados, Milotic, and Salamance all look more like an evolved form of Dragonair than Dragonite does. The only part of this post that even comes close to making sense is Dragonair -> Milotic. All the rest of it is like you ignored any of the features that Dragonair and Dragonite do actually share (and Magikarp and Gyarados, for that matter) in favor of looking exclusively at, at best, vaguely similar color schemes.
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Mar 28, 2019 15:00
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Silver2195 posted:Dragonite is pretty goofy-looking. It's also one of the most dramatic evolutionary changes: from a blue, elegant Chinese dragon to an orange, fat European dragon. Gyarados, Milotic, and Salamance all look more like an evolved form of Dragonair than Dragonite does. Dragonair and Dragonite were designed by two different people, so that probably explains the disconnect. Also Tyrantrum loving rules, god were none of you ever 10 years old?
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Mar 28, 2019 15:26
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Tyrantrum begs the question "why the gently caress aren't Tyranitar and Aerodactyl dragons?"
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Aurorus is a good looking dinosaur that doesn’t deserve the conceptually interesting but competitively garbage rock/ice type. Should have just made it an ice dragon.
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https://twitter.com/splendidland/status/1111234339302502400
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that’s a bug from hollow knight
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Nasgate posted:Tyrantrum begs the question "why the gently caress aren't Tyranitar and Aerodactyl dragons?" Because only the King gets to be a dragon 
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Mar 28, 2019 16:39
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I'm playing OmegaRuby and having a good time with this awesome DexNav thing, thinking how cool it is I can root out Pokemon with Hidden Abilities and Egg Moves, and I think "wait...how do I get a Hidden Ability for a Pokemon that doesn't show up in the wild?" Specifically I really want Totodile (and Bulbasaur and Turtwig) with HA but I don't know how to get the HA on any starter, or fossil Pokemon, or whatever else doesn't just spawn in random encounters.
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Dan Didio posted:I evolved him at 26 and got Swords Dance, not sure I could have managed to evolve him much earlier. That's fine, it's just they get more special moves as they go on unevolved and you have to get to a move relearner to get the physical ones back.
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SuperKlaus posted:Specifically I really want Totodile (and Bulbasaur and Turtwig) with HA but I don't know how to get the HA on any starter, or fossil Pokemon, or whatever else doesn't just spawn in random encounters. Usually those are released in events with their HAs and then people breed them because that's really loving stupid but lol Game Freak. I'm entirely sure Totodile with HA was released, I think with PokeBank, but I'm not sure of the others.
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SuperKlaus posted:I'm playing OmegaRuby and having a good time with this awesome DexNav thing, thinking how cool it is I can root out Pokemon with Hidden Abilities and Egg Moves, and I think "wait...how do I get a Hidden Ability for a Pokemon that doesn't show up in the wild?" https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_with_released_Hidden_Abilities_(Generation_VI) Seems Totodile was event-only, Bulbasaur by trading from XY and Turtwig by transferring from a Gen 5 event. Maybe ask the trade thread if anyone has HA starters in Gen 6 they can breed for you?
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Whalley posted:SR should be shattered after it hits something. If you don't have a poke that can do so without taking damage, you're hosed by it - but only once. This would also be an awesome solution. The thing is just provides way too much return for so little investment. Either you need more setup, or you need to mess with how long it lasts/how much damage it nets you.
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Dabir posted:E: And yes, I know Smogon use the simulator, but their rules get more and more arbitrary over time. They're supposed to be simulating the actual games, that's why you can't do something like putting a Dry Skin Helioptile in a BW-style perma-rain team. The actual games had a cutoff at gen 6, Smogon should have too. In fact, I reckon they should have a rolling distance cutoff - if it takes two or more transfers to get something into the game whose ruleset you're using, it's not legal. If you can theoretically get it in the games it should be legal in the simulator. I don't see why not. At the very least the only thing I can glean from this is just banning all event pokemon/moves, or just events that are defunct (a generation old?), which I can sympathize with I suppose. Most actual pokemon tournaments ban all event pokemon regardless of how strong they are anyway.
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SuperKlaus posted:I'm playing OmegaRuby and having a good time with this awesome DexNav thing, thinking how cool it is I can root out Pokemon with Hidden Abilities and Egg Moves, and I think "wait...how do I get a Hidden Ability for a Pokemon that doesn't show up in the wild?" They're either distributed through events or you get them by looking for them in wild in sun and moon I guess. Don't worry about it. Once you make the jump over to 7th gen I'll breed you up a bunch of starters with their hidden abilities if you want.
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SuperKlaus posted:It's not germane to Stealth Rocks but I would like to know why competitive Pokemon has bizarre tiers based on metagame analysis and no points-based balancing like virtually every other (non-card) game where you select what to use from a list of game assets. Seeing as the phone game and now Let's Go assign Pokemon overall power numbers, there is probably a framework for balancing lists in place there that just needs to be grown. Every miniatures game in existence does this. How would you define the points without also essentially creating 'bizarre tiers' anyway? You would end up with the top tier pokemon worth the most points etc. It seems like it would just be taking the current Smogon tierlist and creating a new metagame from it, which could be interesting. But it's not really 'bizarre' how the tiers are defined. Smogon bases them on usage percentages. They track how often a pokemon is used on teams in the Pokemon Showdown simulator, and then they make cutoffs based on this for the tiers. So if a pokemon gets more than at least ~3.41% total usage in the OU metagame (where everything that is not Uber is allowed) then that pokemon is defined as OU. From this they then ban anything that is deemed 'metagame centralizing' or generally unhealthy. This is always pretty controversial but they're usually pretty good - a metagame isn't really fun if the entire metagame is centered around using on pokemon on your team and attempting to countering that same pokemon on your opponent's team.
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Procrastine posted:https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_with_released_Hidden_Abilities_(Generation_VI) Get Gold or Silver from the E Shop for HA Totodile.
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Open Marriage Night posted:Get Gold or Silver from the E Shop for HA Totodile. They're playing Gen 6 and I think transferring from Virtual Console locks Pokémon into Gen 7? I don't know, I've never done it.
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Mar 28, 2019 18:29
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I think Tyrantrum and Hydreigon are cool looking dragons. Noivern is great too. Gen 6 had some great dragons. Flygon is also a cool looking dragon.
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Mar 28, 2019 18:38
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Honestly most dragons are fine? I can't think of any that totally put me off altogether. Also noivern is clearly the best and most perfect angel.
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Borsche69 posted:Smogon Thanks for the information. At first look Pokemon metagames look like balancing by gentlemen's agreement and coming from other games I'm allergic to that. Flopsy posted:They're either distributed through events or you get them by looking for them in wild in sun and moon I guess. Don't worry about it. Once you make the jump over to 7th gen I'll breed you up a bunch of starters with their hidden abilities if you want. Blaze Dragon posted:Usually those are released in events with their HAs and then people breed them because that's really loving stupid but lol Game Freak. Procrastine posted:[ Maybe ask the trade thread if anyone has HA starters in Gen 6 they can breed for you? I was afraid of something that stupid  Thanks for the info, though, all of you. I did not know there was a trade thread. I'm playing OR and X after the Walmart sales deal. I'm jumping into the franchise since HeartGold on emulator a couple years ago and Blue as a kid way back so I've missed a lot. I particularly appreciate your offer Flopsy for whenever I can catch a deal on a new game.I was so looking forward to a sleek new modernized Feraligatr after that was my pal all through HeartGold too. edit: where's the trade thread? SA Mart? SuperKlaus fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Mar 28, 2019 |
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You can get the Hidden abilities for the Gen 1 and 2 starters by playing the Virtual Console versions of RBY/GSC and transferring them to Pokebank. They even get a fun Gameboy Emblem if you do.
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Flopsy posted:I can't think of any that totally put me off altogether. Fraxure
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Hydreigon is gorgeous and its your fault if you dont like weed
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Ignite Memories posted:Hydreigon is gorgeous and its your fault if you dont like weed  How could you not love this weird floating dragon? 
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If SR didn't exist 6v6 single matches would regularly last 50 turns or longer. You need to control switching somehow and Rocks are the most viable way of doing that. Really, there should be more kinds of entry hazards. Rocks only seem unbalanced because 6v6 singles see more switching than the other formats. You very rarely see Rocks in VGC, 6v6 doubles, or 3v3 singles.
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There should be a held item to make you immune to entry hazards and if you use it a pokemon comes out of the game and becomes your irl friend.
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Mar 28, 2019 20:23
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Cool idea: Stealth Rocks should activate Weakness Policy if they do extra damage.
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Mar 28, 2019 20:31
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Ziddar posted:
mine rolls up all dolled up in choice specs rockin the name Dank Pulse but that's just me
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SuperKlaus posted:edit: where's the trade thread? SA Mart? https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3837723&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1 https://discord.gg/TypXHz7 It's in the OP, there's a discord too, probably more active these days, I haven't actually used either 
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Zuzie posted:Just a heads up, but Passimian is good now (well maybe). https://twitter.com/TKOWL/status/869011244199575553
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pospysyl posted:Cool idea: Stealth Rocks should activate Weakness Policy if they do extra damage. see now this is an actually good policy to have
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less laughter posted:Fraxure Fracture gets a solid "eh" from me. It's one of those pokemon that literally evokes no emotion. Trying to actually think of pokemon I actually hate now and the best I can do is the pikaclones I guess? I'm not that passionate about it. Oh..wait I hate Hypno if only because it's got those horrendous pedo vibes.
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So Smogon is a thing and Dogasu's Backpack was a thing What's the deal with Pokemon fans and Koffing? Also I think that's the first time I've ever typed out Koffing, what a weird word
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