Artifact: The Valve trading card game

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The Bee: Nov 25, 2012; Making his way to the ring . . .
from Deep in the Jungle . . .

The Big Monkey!

Rex-Goliath posted:

serious q has a game made by a major publisher, especially one with the reputation for quality valve has, ever flopped anywhere near as dramatically as this has?

this is looking like a dud that only valve could pull off

The Virtual Boy, maybe?

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The REAL Goobusters: Apr 25, 2008

Rex-Goliath posted:

serious q has a game made by a major publisher, especially one with the reputation for quality valve has, ever flopped anywhere near as dramatically as this has?

this is looking like a dud that only valve could pull off

Tons of times dude

# ? Mar 29, 2019 01:27

babypolis: Nov 4, 2009

Rex-Goliath posted:

serious q has a game made by a major publisher, especially one with the reputation for quality valve has, ever flopped anywhere near as dramatically as this has?

this is looking like a dud that only valve could pull off

fallout 76 comes to mind as a very recent example

# ? Mar 29, 2019 01:28

The Bee: Nov 25, 2012; Making his way to the ring . . .
from Deep in the Jungle . . .

The Big Monkey!

babypolis posted:

fallout 76 comes to mind as a very recent example

No, no, he said publishers with reputations for quality.

# ? Mar 29, 2019 01:30

RoadCrewWorker: Nov 19, 2007; camels aren't so great

babypolis posted:

fallout 76 comes to mind as a very recent example

laughably bad as that was and still is, they at least seemed to give a poo poo for longer than roughly 3 days

"they" being both the players and the devs

# ? Mar 29, 2019 01:40

No Wave: Sep 18, 2005; HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

# ? Mar 29, 2019 01:44

The REAL Goobusters: Apr 25, 2008

RoadCrewWorker posted:

laughably bad as that was and still is, they at least seemed to give a poo poo for longer than roughly 3 days

"they" being both the players and the devs

The people that still played fallout 76 after day 1 imo were actual psychos tho

# ? Mar 29, 2019 01:47

HMS Beagle: Feb 13, 2009

Just checked the Artifact reddit. Does anyone know why they expected a big update, or anything at all, to be announced today?

# ? Mar 29, 2019 01:53

No Wave: Sep 18, 2005; HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

Expecting updates on Thursdays is a meme there now. They'll do the same thing next week.

# ? Mar 29, 2019 01:56

Polo-Rican: Jul 4, 2004; emptyquote my posts or die

Valve is a really weird company and the way they've dealt with Artifact's issues sheds some light on what might have happened with their canned half life and left 4 dead projects. It's very possible to salvage a screwed up game, but valve seems to just chuck their poo poo into the garbage unless it's perfect on day one. I guess that makes sense since their company is all "self- organizing" and people can hop on off any project whenever they feel like.

# ? Mar 29, 2019 04:02

Wheeee: Mar 11, 2001; When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

Valve doesn't do mediocre

"I'd rather be fired than quit" - Gabe

# ? Mar 29, 2019 05:31

Double Bill: Jan 29, 2006

No Wave posted:

Even Bitcoin stopped sinking eventually, but this is going all the way down to zero.

# ? Mar 29, 2019 07:26

MiddleOne: Feb 17, 2011

No Wave posted:

Incredible.

# ? Mar 29, 2019 07:32

singateco: Jan 28, 2013

Buying and wearing a t-shirt that say "I bought artifact on launch" so people can instantly know what I'm about

# ? Mar 29, 2019 07:52

The Moon Monster: Dec 30, 2005

Rex-Goliath posted:

serious q has a game made by a major publisher, especially one with the reputation for quality valve has, ever flopped anywhere near as dramatically as this has?

this is looking like a dud that only valve could pull off

Probably lots, but Valves in a weird position where development for their other live service games feels like it's languishing and this is the only new thing they'd released in years.

# ? Mar 29, 2019 21:01

The REAL Goobusters: Apr 25, 2008

https://steamcommunity.com/games/583950/announcements/detail/1819924505115920089

quote:

When we launched Artifact, we expected it would be the beginning of a long journey, that it would lay the foundation for years to come. Our plan was to immediately dive into our normal strategy of shipping a series of updates driven by the dialogue community members were having with each other and with us.

Obviously, things didn't turn out how we hoped. Artifact represents the largest discrepancy between our expectations for how one of our games would be received and the actual outcome. But we don't think that players misunderstand our game, or that they're playing it wrong. Artifact now represents an opportunity for us to improve our craft and use that knowledge to build better games.

Since launch, we've been looking carefully at how players interact with the game as well as gathering feedback. It has become clear that there are deep-rooted issues with the game and that our original update strategy of releasing new features and cards would be insufficient to address them. Instead, we believe the correct course of action is to take larger steps, to re-examine the decisions we've made along the way regarding game design, the economy, the social experience of playing, and more.

So what does this mean?

Moving forward, we'll be heads-down focusing on addressing these larger issues instead of shipping updates. While we expect this process of experimentation and development to take a significant amount of time, we�re excited to tackle this challenge and will get back to you as soon as we are ready.

# ? Mar 29, 2019 22:04

PIZZA.BAT: Nov 12, 2016

The REAL Goobusters posted:

https://steamcommunity.com/games/583950/announcements/detail/1819924505115920089

# ? Mar 29, 2019 22:05

MiddleOne: Feb 17, 2011

lol that's a very roundabout way to say they're completely dropping support.

# ? Mar 29, 2019 22:08

RisqueBarber: Jul 10, 2005

The REAL Goobusters posted:

https://steamcommunity.com/games/583950/announcements/detail/1819924505115920089

the game is so bad they don't even know where to begin

# ? Mar 29, 2019 22:14

No Wave: Sep 18, 2005; HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

ok, not much left to joke about after that announcement. I don't expect to hear about this game from them for at least a year. See you all then!

# ? Mar 29, 2019 22:16

NmareBfly: Jul 16, 2004; I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

Just give everyone all the cards. Sell card cosmetics. Have a buncha modes. Core game good. Monetization bad.

I still played a lot of draft and 0 constructed so I don�t think I wasted my 10 bucks or time. Oh well, see you in a year or... not. :smith:

# ? Mar 29, 2019 22:17

DrManiac: Feb 29, 2012

I stopped playing after they nerfed my favorite red/green deck with the intention of coming back when a new set dropped but it looks like it's not even getting that far. I really like the game but I have no idea how they could ever get people to come back.

# ? Mar 29, 2019 22:21

PIZZA.BAT: Nov 12, 2016

Hello from the goldmine

# ? Mar 29, 2019 22:21

CodfishCartographer: Feb 23, 2010; Gadus Maprocephalus; Pillbug

The REAL Goobusters posted:

https://steamcommunity.com/games/583950/announcements/detail/1819924505115920089

So glad that they�re going to focus on fixing big problems instead of releasing updates.

Because we�ve had so many updates so far.

# ? Mar 29, 2019 22:23

MiddleOne: Feb 17, 2011

CodfishCartographer posted:

Because we�ve had so many updates so far.

# ? Mar 29, 2019 22:40

Hellsau: Jan 14, 2010; NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

so do i buy all the cards now or what

# ? Mar 29, 2019 22:42

Andrigaar: Dec 12, 2003; Saint of Killers

Artifactgoldfish.com has also been down all week. I can't imagine why it would return at this point.

# ? Mar 29, 2019 22:52

Tom Tucker: Jul 19, 2003; I want to warn you fellers
And tell you one by one
What makes a gallows rope to swing
A woman and a gun

Just kill the game that post is the �let�s open the relationship� of game updates

# ? Mar 29, 2019 22:55

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Hellsau posted:

so do i buy all the cards now or what

axecoins will go UP when valve returns to save artifact

# ? Mar 29, 2019 23:11

Wheeee: Mar 11, 2001; When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

the best part is nobody gets a refund lol

hope you cashed out in the first couple days!

# ? Mar 29, 2019 23:16

Amethyst: Mar 28, 2004; I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai

The REAL Goobusters posted:

https://steamcommunity.com/games/583950/announcements/detail/1819924505115920089

See you in n+1 years for the relaunch of Artifact alongside the glorious return of Half Life 3!

# ? Mar 29, 2019 23:28

Mattavist: May 24, 2003

NmareBfly posted:

Core game good.

nah

# ? Mar 29, 2019 23:31

RoadCrewWorker: Nov 19, 2007; camels aren't so great

Double Bill posted:

Even Bitcoin stopped sinking eventually, but this is going all the way down to zero.

https://www.howmuchdoesartifactcost.com/
not that anyone sane would ever pay a tenth of that

NmareBfly posted:

Core game good. Monetization bad.

# ? Mar 29, 2019 23:44

The REAL Goobusters: Apr 25, 2008

No Wave posted:

ok, not much left to joke about after that announcement. I don't expect to hear about this game from them for at least a year. See you all then!

Lmao yeah right bitch you�re gonna be back tomorrow

# ? Mar 29, 2019 23:57

Stan Taylor: Oct 13, 2013; Touched Fuzzy, Got Dizzy

When's half life 3

# ? Mar 29, 2019 23:57

RazzleDazzleHour: Mar 31, 2016

The REAL Goobusters posted:

Lmao yeah right bitch you�re gonna be back tomorrow

Can't wait to see your esports article about this post!

# ? Mar 30, 2019 00:00

boredsatellite: Dec 7, 2013

Yeah I got my money's worth out of the game in enjoyment and managed to get half my money's worth back too so it's like whatever.

Sadly this thread is not as entertaining as the anthem thread so I guess see you folks later I guess. Unless someone does melt down like the anthem thread

# ? Mar 30, 2019 00:11