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whether a socialist or fascist is in power, in a worst case scenario MidWest chuds will have to surrender their land at the gunpoint of FEMA black ops troops
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Serf posted:ubi, in all current forms, is just life support for the capitalist system. and under a socialist system there would be no need for it because the basic necessities of life would be provided for as a matter of course Life support makes it sound too dire imo, it's just a obvious reform that any capitalist with a brain would be able to see is beneficial for them long term. It's a worthwhile cost if it contributes to the long term stability of imperialism.
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Homeless Friend posted:Life support makes it sound too dire imo, it's just a obvious reform that any capitalist with a brain would be able to see is beneficial for them long term. It's a worthwhile cost if it contributes to the long term stability of imperialism. i guess i'm being a bit optimistic, huh? i hope they keep being too loving stupid and greedy to see the benefit of ubi
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Dr. Killjoy posted:whether a socialist or fascist is in power, in a worst case scenario MidWest chuds will have to surrender their land at the gunpoint of FEMA black ops troops like I tell my fellow midwesterners - if you keep going left you get to keep your guns, then maybe show them the Marx vs Reagan on gun rights thing
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Serf posted:i guess i'm being a bit optimistic, huh? i hope they keep being too loving stupid and greedy to see the benefit of ubi That vulture capitalist who supported bernie way back when knew exactly what was up lmao
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https://twitter.com/NYCEllieD/status/1108930278750248960 https://twitter.com/LenoraKliemisch/status/1109019870895767552 https://twitter.com/NYCEllieD/status/1109058759643615232 https://twitter.com/LenoraKliemisch/status/1110280708008919040
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Mar 29, 2019 21:16
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Actually, libtard, I was watching One America New's.
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Mar 29, 2019 21:32
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Actually, libtard, I was watching my own turds flush. Expand your news stations. You may learn something.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:and not just because it'll let those people live, but in that microcosm the market will actually also work, they'll spend some of the extra money down at the diner and hardware store, buy some locally produced stuff from the guy they know, and even start their own business. i know that some in the thread view this as counterrevolutionary, but, like, there are people dying in very sad circumstances out there. the only national retailer around my old stomping grounds is one dollar general. everything else is locally owned, except maybe a subway sandwich place located in a convince store. You'll have to drive about 40 miles to get to the nearest Walmart. The three biggest towns each have a grocery store that is locally owned, and each have locally owned hardware stores. the isp is local (and in two cases, municipal including fiber and a wireless network available throughout the town). as is the TV service in one town. in the town where every kid eats free is a gym, bakery, florist, flooring company, lumber yard, 2 hardware stores, three garages, a grocery store, two florists, a computer repair place, a medical clinic open 6 days a week, two restaurants, a gun shop, three bars, a home decor place, a pharmacy, two silk screening stores a pizza place (pizza ranch, natch) all with a population around 1100 people or so. the area also has a shitload of wind turbines and solid solar potential. having lived there, I can say that 9 out of my 10 retail dollars were spent at mom and pop shops and stayed within the local community. the only movie theater is municipally owned and is staffed by volunteers. if you can stand to wait a few weeks, you can watch the marvel super hero movie of the season for $3. If you're a big spender, you can get a soda, candy, and a popcorn for $6 more. My wife, on the other hand, will spend money willy nilly at Walmart and Amazon, much to my chagrin, so as a household it was probably 70-30 spent locally because I did all the grocery shopping. if i needed an ingredient I couldn't get in my small town, I'd drive 40 miles to buy, say, tomatillos at the local Latninx-owned grocery and just stock up a bunch and freeze my salsa verde for the next few times I needed it. full socialism right now would be fantastic! not an economist, so I can only speak to what I lived, but an extra 1k/month per adult would do some good in the trumpiest enclaves of poor, uneducated people. at least in steve king's district where 20-30k will buy you a free standing house. often without getting a bank involved. That's how I did it. but i moved away and i am selling my house to my brother on the installment plan for around half of what i paid for it. he was in over his head financially and he's now on his way to being a homeowner for around $15 grand while making $11 /hr. i guess that's a ton of words to say in my experience, i agree with you and it is really easy to spend money locally in isolated communities, as weird as it sounds. a ubi would help a ton. it would also help people in more affluent areas. the place my wife and I are looking to rent is around $1500 a month. anyone in SFO,NYC,Boston, etc would kill for something that cheap, but that's 50 hours of work per week every week for a month to have one person making minimum wage to cover that.
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Epic High Five posted:Package #1 is a grand, an uberti 12 gauge single shot, a box of double aught buck, and a copy of wage labor and capital an AKM, 4 mags, 200 rnds of ammo, and a copy of The Conquest of Bread is my version. Note that my package includes no money, but the recipient is free to assist with the wealth redistribution efforts using the items that are included.
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mono posted:https://twitter.com/HealthandCBDoil/status/1040460912132542464 It's wild to read this thread from the start and see how many people have deleted their twitter accounts (or just stopped posting, presumably due to dying) and what the ones who are still around are posting. Quoting this post to say that because the first tweet woman is terminally ill and $7k+ in debt and her children are facing homelessness, and the guy from the second tweet is frantically @ing ghost hunter show celebrities warning them of spiritual/supernatural danger and posting the same picture of his erect penis half a dozen times in a row.
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Mar 30, 2019 05:40
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When people say they gave 3 degrees do they mean like three associates' degrees or what
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If you depend on the government for anything, maybe don't vote for Republicans. I am not saying "don't be racist". I am saying you can't afford to be.
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Judakel posted:If you depend on the government for anything, maybe don't vote for Republicans. I am not saying "don't be racist". I am saying you can't afford to be. 1) Republicans get elected 2) Republicans propose all kinds of cuts to good and useful programs 3) Democrats scramble to block those cuts 4) Democrats can't block all of them, but they do manage to preserve some core programs (Medicare, Social Security, Obamacare protections) from being slashed or privatized Over and over again. White voters have traditionally been insulated from the worst of their choices, because the Democrats wade in there and fight for the programs that benefit them (Medicare, SS, farm subsidies, etc), so white voters have very little incentive to do anything but vote Republican. They get all the benefits of Republican rule (tax cuts, kicking brown and black people, putting women and fagg0rts in their place, bombing furriners, making libruls cry, etc.) and none of the bad stuff affects them, so why would they vote any other way? For various reasons, this mechanism is breaking down in the Trump era, which leads to this thread. Dems have largely been run out of rural farming areas, so there's no counterweight to argue against gutting farm subsidies and launching tariff wars, so for the first time rural whites are getting exactly what they voted for. Same with rural health care spending and a bunch of other things.
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FMguru posted:. They get all the benefits of Republican rule (tax cuts, kicking brown and black people, putting women and fagg0rts in their place, bombing furriners, making libruls cry, etc.) and none of the bad stuff affects them, so why would they vote any other way? I don’t agree with this. a lot of those voters do get affected by the bad stuff and believe dems are at fault when it affects them. at least that’s what I seen. the people funding repubs? yeah, they’re reaping all the short term benefits
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N. Senada posted:I don’t agree with this. a lot of those voters do get affected by the bad stuff and believe dems are at fault when it affects them. "there would be enough for us if there weren't so many immigrants/blacks"
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there’s schaefenfreude in florida, which is the only southern state turning more wealthy and white, being extremely vulnerable to climate change
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FMguru posted:One of the things I've noticed about the way politics has worked since at least Reagan is a recurring pattern of Dems are just as gleeful in their cuts and oppression. It's easy to point to Nixon and Reagan and say, "well this is why mass incarceration is a thing" but they are like ants compared to the many armed machine of exploitation and death that was Bill Clinton. It wasn't Reagan that made prison building the #1 housing program the government funds, nor him that basically eliminated all welfare to non-corporate entities. Obama was happy to gut medicare and social security as well in his grand bargain. Dems are, at best, controlled opposition, there to take a bold stand against 1-2 cuts while approving of the rest, and never, ever, ever, ever under any circumstances proposing to undo previous cuts or even - god forbid - expand or better fund current programs
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I've got family that love One America News and holy shitballs its like an actual iv drip of fash that makes fox news look like Mother Jones. Just awesome that are pres doesn't know they exist though.
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this belongs here https://twitter.com/HuffPost/status/1113225230665887746
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“I hope someday somebody proves that what we did was irrelevant,” he said. "I hope we had no impact ... but all it does is increase the pain,” he told Amanpour. “It doesn’t change how I think about the decision.” lol he's only tortured by how shitstained *~his legacy~* is
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:this belongs here lol jesus I thought that Comey must have been a massive trump fan because it was loving obvious that doing what he did really hurt Hilary. the man is a goddamend idiot haha
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lol they also don't mention how he covered up the probe of her opponent, who is now the president
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JFairfax posted:lol jesus I thought that Comey must have been a massive trump fan because it was loving obvious that doing what he did really hurt Hilary. He thought that Hillary was going to win and wanted to announce his own moral pulchritude in the loudest way possible. Trump is president because this wiener wanted to feed his vision of himself as a modern Eliot Ness.
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:this belongs here Wrong, this belongs in the happy thread.
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comey effectively made an outsized vote for trump and now he's going to die with trump in office.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:comey effectively made an outsized vote for trump and now he's going to die with trump in office. We all are.
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:this belongs here Well, gee. All the polls showed Hillary winning by a landslide because Republicans loving hated Trump, and Hillary had been cleared for pretty much everything so they were going to stay home. Then you go and loving "reopen" an investigation right before the election, which was essentially "she's guilty! white power! kill minorities!" and the only few polls that were still polling showed a dramatic swing to the right out of loving nowhere. gently caress this guy forever.
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JFairfax posted:lol jesus I thought that Comey must have been a massive trump fan because it was loving obvious that doing what he did really hurt Hilary. trump thought so too in the early days. in his congressional testimony comey said trump tried to embrace him in the oval office and be all buddy-buddy. things soured when trump realized comey wasn't burying the russia probe for him
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https://mobile.twitter.com/ciaoanthony/status/1113228260245147649 yes those well known democratic institutions... The FBI and CIA. Goddamn liberals are dumb as poo poo.
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Lmao it's pretty obvious that Comey is just playing dumb, but why? Dude literally refused to look into obvious active interference while at the same time releasing a memo that amounted to "folks, remember emails? Well, EMAILS!" in an obvious attempt to hamstring what he felt was an incoming Dem, but WHOOPS Own your trechary and politicking you coward. You wanted a strong daddy who would let the cops do whatever they want and now you've got it
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Shaffness posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/ciaoanthony/status/1113228260245147649 which uh, who even knows, the Senate and House still exist, dude didn't unperson Mitch McConnell or something
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JFairfax posted:lol jesus I thought that Comey must have been a massive trump fan because it was loving obvious that doing what he did really hurt Hilary. The most reasonable explanation is that he thought Hillary had it in the bag no matter what, but if the new emails did reveal something criminal the Republicans would accuse him of covering it up and destroy his career. If there was nothing, then his leak would be forgotten in Hillary's long-awaited coronation celebrations. So he did the cowardly rear end-covering thing to guarantee his career was safe no matter what the probe revealed, except whoops. The other reasonable and more cynical explanation is he thought Hillary had it in the bag but as a Republican he wanted to make sure his team held congress, and he figured Trump would never win so why not help the Republican downballot.
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Weaponized Autism posted:Send him pictures of caged children now until forever. he is a cop. you think that brown people (even children) behind bars would affect him in some negative way?
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DACK FAYDEN posted:dude didn't unperson Mitch McConnell or something ur not helping his case here buddy
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:“I hope someday somebody proves that what we did was irrelevant,” he said. "I hope we had no impact ... but all it does is increase the pain,” he told Amanpour. “It doesn’t change how I think about the decision.” Epic High Five posted:Own your trechary and politicking you coward. You wanted a strong daddy who would let the cops do whatever they want and now you've got it
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