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Computer viking posted:My only big annoyance is that it gets harder and harder to set a static IP. Or has that made it into Settings now? (At some point I should learn how to do that from powershell.) This takes about 20 seconds in Windows 10. Which isn't any more difficult than in previous versions, just in different places. As a previous poster pointed out, use the search box. It works pretty well. Also I really appreciate Win10 remembering my 34 random adhoc ICS networks and going straight back to the right configuration when I plug into that subnet.
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I also appreciate windows 10’s ability to randomize MAC addresses to get around hotel WiFi fuckery
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TotalLossBrain posted:This takes about 20 seconds in Windows 10. Which isn't any more difficult than in previous versions, just in different places. As a previous poster pointed out, use the search box. It works pretty well. An OS where everything is so poo poo you have to search to get anything done? Spectateswamp is going to sue Microsoft (  )
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Mar 29, 2019 17:59
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Jerry Cotton posted:An OS where everything is so poo poo you have to search to get anything done? Spectateswamp is going to sue Microsoft ( Search is the only useful UI. MacOS was a wasteland until they added Spotlight.
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Mar 29, 2019 18:13
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Humphreys posted:God dammit! That was the one! Totally amazing considering I had a Pentium 75 with 16(?)MB RAM at the time. It was my parents computer and I asked one day 'wouldn't it be cool if we had a tower that was black instead of beige?' The 'yeah it would be neat' = me spray painting it after school. Note this computer was their whole construction company in a box. If they weren't backing up their data onto zip disks, that's their problem.
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Following on the OS/2 discussion from the last page, Jimmy Maher of the Digital Antiquarian blog wrote an excellent series of articles on the early history of Windows (from the origins of the project up through 3.1, basically the entire 16-bit era), including the role it and the OS/2 project played in the complete breakdown of Microsoft and IBM's relationship in the mid-late 80s. It's a very long series but it's really well worth reading if you have nostalgia for that era of computing or you want to learn about just how ruthless Bill Gates was in his prime. Part 1 is here and you can follow the links at the bottom of the post to the subsequent parts.
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Mar 29, 2019 18:40
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The Fool posted:Search is the only useful UI. Swampy?
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Mr.Radar posted:Following on the OS/2 discussion from the last page, Jimmy Maher of the Digital Antiquarian blog wrote an excellent series of articles on the early history of Windows (from the origins of the project up through 3.1, basically the entire 16-bit era), including the role it and the OS/2 project played in the complete breakdown of Microsoft and IBM's relationship in the mid-late 80s. It's a very long series but it's really well worth reading if you have nostalgia for that era of computing or you want to learn about just how ruthless Bill Gates was in his prime. Part 1 is here and you can follow the links at the bottom of the post to the subsequent parts. To add to this, https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/11/half-an-operating-system-the-triumph-and-tragedy-of-os2/ is the Ars article that I keep coming back to every so often when I want to laugh about OS/2. Data Graham has a new favorite as of 19:10 on Mar 29, 2019 |
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Mar 29, 2019 19:05
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That default Windows 10 tiles start button is just hopeless endless trash. Animated, ad fuelled, nonsensical square colour vomit. You couldn't install an alternate Start menu fast enough.
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Mar 29, 2019 19:07
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oohhboy posted:That default Windows 10 tiles start button is just hopeless endless trash. Animated, ad fuelled, nonsensical square colour vomit. You couldn't install an alternate Start menu fast enough. I remember 2017 too.
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Mar 29, 2019 19:10
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Everyone I know that has to use Win 10 has an alternate start menu app lol
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Mar 29, 2019 19:31
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There are start menu apps? I just removed all the tiles and it's a normal start menu now.
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Back when I used OS/2, which was a surprisingly long time, I'd enjoy reading the OS/2 eZine (warning: page looks like 1996 barfed on your browser). It included probably one of the first still-running (well, limping) web-comic Help Desk. The comic seems to have swallowed the first couple of years in one of the subsequential redesigns, but you can still see (some of) the old ones in the back issues. One of my favorite ancient facts that very few people care about is that Help Desk changed the name of the company from MegaSoft to UberSoft due to legal threats from Microsoft, and you would see back issues on their own site updated to reflect that (aside from a few oversights), but the OS/2 eZine still has the original issues with MegaSoft and MegaWordSoftPro.
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Mar 29, 2019 19:45
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Cojawfee posted:There are start menu apps? I just removed all the tiles and it's a normal start menu now. Basically this. It changed in 2018 via update and now there's a normal start menu. Last Chance posted:Everyone I know that has to use Win 10 has an alternate start menu app lol Everyone I know that uses Windows 10 doesn't. See? Anecdotes!
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Mar 29, 2019 19:51
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Jerry Cotton posted:An OS where everything is so poo poo you have to search to get anything done? Spectateswamp is going to sue Microsoft ( Eh, it gets me there in way less time than clicking through menus. And the default tile system on Win 10 is indeed garbage.
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Mar 29, 2019 20:17
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The Fool posted:Search is the only useful UI. Search is great if you already know exactly what you want. If you want to poke around and see what's available, it's useless. Well-organized controls in a discoverable interface make learning a system so much easier.
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Mar 29, 2019 20:20
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what else should i read if i loved exploding the phone? analog telephony history is preferred, but vintage hacking in general is good too. don't be afraid to get technical; i won't understand it but i'd like to try anyway
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Mar 29, 2019 20:52
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bad posts ahead!!! posted:what else should i read if i loved exploding the phone? analog telephony history is preferred, but vintage hacking in general is good too. don't be afraid to get technical; i won't understand it but i'd like to try anyway I really enjoyed Steven Levy's Hackers: https://www.amazon.com/Hackers-Computer-Revolution-Steven-Levy/dp/1449388396
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Mar 29, 2019 21:04
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bad posts ahead!!! posted:what else should i read if i loved exploding the phone? analog telephony history is preferred, but vintage hacking in general is good too. don't be afraid to get technical; i won't understand it but i'd like to try anyway Have you read Clifford Stoll's The Cuckoo's Egg? It's a true story of how an astronomer-turned-IT administrator (Stoll) connected the dots from a $0.75 accounting error on his employer's shared computer system to a Soviet spy ring. It features a lot of ingenious methods for tracing the connection back to its source, such as how early on Stoll "borrowed" every PC and printer from around his office building one weekend to tap the dozens of incoming modem lines in hopes of catching the hacker in the act. It also inadvertantly serves as an excellent document of how large-scale/wide-area computer networks operated before the advent of the modern commercial Internet. Mr.Radar has a new favorite as of 21:18 on Mar 29, 2019 |
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bad posts ahead!!! posted:what else should i read if i loved exploding the phone? analog telephony history is preferred, but vintage hacking in general is good too. don't be afraid to get technical; i won't understand it but i'd like to try anyway I can't recommend it because I haven't read it, but some day I want to pick up the Phone Losers of America book. It's less of a history book and more of a (largely embellished) funny stories collection. I used to read their site years ago and found the articles great. I'm not sure how the writing would hold up reading it as an adult though. Thanks for mentioning Exploding The Phone though. I'm going to check it out - it looks great.
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bad posts ahead!!! posted:what else should i read if i loved exploding the phone? analog telephony history is preferred, but vintage hacking in general is good too. don't be afraid to get technical; i won't understand it but i'd like to try anyway Mitnick did a couple of books about his exploits. The guys that caught him did too, about their side of the chase.
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Mar 29, 2019 21:23
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klafbang posted:Mitnick did a couple of books about his exploits. The guys that caught him did too, about their side of the chase. what do all these books have in common? EVERYONE thinks Capn Crunch is a weirdo.
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if history has taught me anything, it's that everyone whining about Windows 10 will talk about how great it is whenever its successor arrives
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:if history has taught me anything, it's that everyone whining about Windows 10 will talk about how great it is whenever its successor arrives I don't know, there's not too many people here missing 8 or ME - and I think the highest praise I've seen for Vista was "worked fine for me but I didn't mind moving to 7". 10 is ok, though. It's got some annoyances, and the default tile menu with its preinstalled Candy Crush & friends is not great - but it does basically work, and has some neat features. I just hope the settings UI eventually settles down to a steady state. (Also, I'd love it if the next feature update actually installed on the first attempt, just for once - but that's probably something on my side.) Computer viking has a new favorite as of 01:14 on Mar 30, 2019 |
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:if history has taught me anything, it's that everyone whining about Windows 10 will talk about how great it is whenever its successor arrives "It might have spied on us and given incredibly vague error messages that were impossible to diagnose but at least we didn't have to put up with Mandatory Teledildonics" 
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They’re slowly updating all of the computers at work to windows 10 after not switching to 7 until it got retired a few years ago. One thing I have noticed is the crappier enterprise level hp laptops we have seem to be doing a whole lot better on 10 than they ever did on 7 which is nice. We’ll see how well the desktops handle it shortly along with our cad package
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Mr.Radar posted:Have you read Clifford Stoll's The Cuckoo's Egg?
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When I got to Win10 I just followed a vid from Barnaclesnerdgasm and it helped get rid of a bunch of poo poo. My win10 runs smooth as butter. Here have a neato music video with a lot of dead computing/internet references based around Clippy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4taIpALfAo
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DID SOMEONE SAY CLIPPY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu_Pzuwy-JY
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Data Graham posted:DID SOMEONE SAY CLIPPY That is the PERFECT annoying voice. EDIT: Wait a minute, those are legit MS ads? WOW Humphreys has a new favorite as of 07:17 on Mar 30, 2019 |
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 Spamming this everywhere, might as well spam it here. Got 4MB RAM in my Atari 1040STE now, so I can run games that have been converted to hard drive use without running out of memory. All seems stable at the moment, threw a few games at it. Wanna dual ROM it next 
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When did people stop calling apps "programs?" It seemed like when I was learning computers in the mid-late 90s all the young adults and kids called them programs, but old fogies called them apps and now everyone calls them apps again.
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Lazlo Nibble posted:Definitely worth a read; his subsequent attempts at digital contrarianism, not so much. Unless you enjoy seeing just how wrong a human being can be in print! He's also an incredibly sweet maths nut with a certain peculiar obsession: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k3mVnRlQLU
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Grand Prize Winner posted:When did people stop calling apps "programs?" It seemed like when I was learning computers in the mid-late 90s all the young adults and kids called them programs, but old fogies called them apps and now everyone calls them apps again. Blame it all on the iPhone.
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Grand Prize Winner posted:When did people stop calling apps "programs?" It seemed like when I was learning computers in the mid-late 90s all the young adults and kids called them programs, but old fogies called them apps and now everyone calls them apps again. I think “program” implies a specific executable, whereas “app” refers to the entire package, which could contain multiple programs and data files behind one interface.
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I don't know what I want more - the Klein bottles are cool but the miniature warehouse would be really handy 
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Grand Prize Winner posted:When did people stop calling apps "programs?" It seemed like when I was learning computers in the mid-late 90s all the young adults and kids called them programs, but old fogies called them apps and now everyone calls them apps again. Back assward.
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rndmnmbr posted:Blame it all on the iPhone. A lot earlier than the iPhone actually. Even back in the 90s Apple consistently called programs 'applications' and encouraged that because Apple and application start with the same sound. Even on Windows or other OS's application has been an acceptable synonym for program but since the iPhone it's become pretty universal. Weirdly so in some cases - I once showed my cousins the contents of one of my external hard drives and there was a folder called Apps which just had a bunch of random programs in it, but they assumed it was iPhone apps/games.
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Humphreys posted:That is the PERFECT annoying voice. Yup, Gilbert Gottfried. It’s probably the only time MS’ marketing approached self-awareness
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Data Graham posted:Yup, Gilbert Gottfried. It’s probably the only time MS’ marketing approached self-awareness Yes thats the one. The human uppercut.
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