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Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Pham Nuwen posted:

These must have sold really poorly because they're easy to spot but I've only ever seen... maybe 5, in my life.

They actually sold 68k total, but they're "collectable" so old people just keep them in the garage.

For context, that's very nearly half as many as the Cadillac ATS has sold.

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Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON
If you look at production numbers by model year they waaaaaay overestimated demand in the first model year. Went from 31,000 in 2002 down to under 10,000 in 2005.

Content:



Let's play "Tagged with Aircraft Remover or Just Another Quality GM Paint Job?"

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Geoj posted:

If you look at production numbers by model year they waaaaaay overestimated demand in the first model year. Went from 31,000 in 2002 down to under 10,000 in 2005.

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Let's play "Tagged with Aircraft Remover or Just Another Quality GM Paint Job?"

patina, bro

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

MikeyTsi posted:

The SSR was a legit good sports truck...

The SSRs biggest problem was the loving price tag. It was fully $10,000 more than a same-year GTO, which had a manual available prior to ‘06, as well as the same powertrain. And the GTO had a back seat. And didn’t weigh 4700lbs. And isn’t a truck.

We are not going to talk about the GTO’s trunk.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

MrYenko posted:

The SSRs biggest problem was the loving price tag. It was fully $10,000 more than a same-year GTO, which had a manual available prior to ‘06, as well as the same powertrain. And the GTO had a back seat. And didn’t weigh 4700lbs. And isn’t a truck.

We are not going to talk about the GTO’s trunk.

We need a cage match between you and the Honda folks.

edit: I hope to hell you have engine codes that you can toss out. My money is on you.

god this blows
Mar 13, 2003

Powershift posted:

They actually sold 68k total, but they're "collectable" so old people just keep them in the garage.

For context, that's very nearly half as many as the Cadillac ATS has sold.

I have a coworker who daily drives one and it isn’t in the greatest condition. Kinda fun to see daily though

Dr.Smasher
Nov 27, 2002

Cyberpunk 1987

god this blows posted:

I have a coworker who daily drives one and it isn’t in the greatest condition. Kinda fun to see daily though

I kinda like those retro styled Thunderbirds. I feel like the design has held up pretty well.

Am I the terrible car stuff?

Goober Peas
Jun 30, 2007

Check out my 'Vette, bro


I thought they nailed the exterior, but man they blew it going with parts bin for the interior.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Dr.Smasher posted:

I kinda like those retro styled Thunderbirds. I feel like the design has held up pretty well.

Am I the terrible car stuff?

The styling was fine. Problem was, it was a two seater with nearly zero performance potential (the 3.9 is a turd, and I don’t think contemporary mod motors would fit) and a chassis set up for comfort. It appealed to almost no one.

Apparently Ford forgot that the Thunderbirds that the nu-Bird was styled after was a pretty hi-performance coupe for its time.

Thief
Jan 28, 2011

:420::420::420::420::420::420::420::420::420::420::420:
iirc there is an ancient variant of the t-birb that still has an insane 0-60 time to this day

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

Thief posted:

iirc there is an ancient variant of the t-birb that still has an insane 0-60 time to this day

Err... are you thinking thunderbolt? Still in top ten for "production" automobiles over the 1/4 mile, 10.365 at 132.65mph.

BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT
Yeah the new T-bird was nice looking but that's all I heard was complaints about how cramped it felt & how sluggish it was. It's like the only market Ford tried to appeal to was old retired people that drove to the store or casino a couple times a week.

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

MikeyTsi posted:

No, they did a nostalgia one after the Thunderchicken:


This one.

The previous gen 'chicken was almost a full foot longer.

As far as the three, I think the Prowler was ultimately the most disappointing, since they chickened out and didn't put a good engine or a manual in it. The SSR was a legit good sports truck, I'd say the HHR would be the more hated since it didn't really have anything going for it. As far as the above, most people are going to be "thunder-what?"

The correct answer of course, is the PT Cruiser.

I've only ever seen these in the worst color choices, did they offer them in normal colors like black or blue?

90s Solo Cup
Feb 22, 2011

To understand the cup
He must become the cup



MikeyTsi posted:

No, they did a nostalgia one after the Thunderchicken:


This one.

The previous gen 'chicken was almost a full foot longer.

As far as the three, I think the Prowler was ultimately the most disappointing, since they chickened out and didn't put a good engine or a manual in it. The SSR was a legit good sports truck, I'd say the HHR would be the more hated since it didn't really have anything going for it. As far as the above, most people are going to be "thunder-what?"

The correct answer of course, is the PT Cruiser.

They hosed up the Retrochicken by basing it on the 1955 T-Bird, when they really should have copied the 1958 "Square Bird". It's ugly as gently caress imho, but at least you would have gotten four seats and most nostalgic boomers will eat up that tacky, kitschy garbage.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Balliver Shagnasty posted:

They hosed up the Retrochicken by basing it on the 1955 T-Bird, when they really should have copied the 1958 "Square Bird". It's ugly as gently caress imho, but at least you would have gotten four seats and most nostalgic boomers will eat up that tacky, kitschy garbage.

I don't think the T-bird was a failure in any way for ford. The next retrobird likely would have followed the same pattern, copying the 58. It was just a victim of ford's restructuring.

Ford has shown they're willing to stick with a "flop" if people love it. The Flex sells 20k a year which is an abysmal failure by modern measures, and it could be seeing it's 11th? model year this year.

Where they hosed up the t-bird was not having the 300ho 4.6 in it near it's death. The T-bird died without the 4.6 or a supercharged 4.6. The Crown vic died without a coyote/6a. Both drat shames.

it would have been lovely to see the T-bird grow back into a GT car.

Fayez Butts
Aug 24, 2006

Blue On Blue posted:

My friend spotted this today





Surprised it doesn't have stick on speed vents as well

Sporting the classic Ontario patina of a heck of a lot of dirt

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free
ugh there's a SEND NUDES window sticker on a car in my neighborhood, and that's one of the classier ones on it

Funzo
Dec 6, 2002




Does that have a window net?

Lord Stimperor
Jun 13, 2018

I'm a lovable meme.


What does that spoiler do

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm

Lord Stimperor posted:

What does that spoiler do
-2mpg

MrOnBicycle
Jan 18, 2008
Wait wat?
Lower MPG.

bigbillystyle
Nov 11, 2003

We have Drive to Survive at home

madeintaipei posted:

Err... are you thinking thunderbolt? Still in top ten for "production" automobiles over the 1/4 mile, 10.365 at 132.65mph.

That could be it because I was thinking Thunderbird Super Coupe at first but I looked it up and the 0-60 on that was in the 7's.

90s Solo Cup
Feb 22, 2011

To understand the cup
He must become the cup



Lord Stimperor posted:

What does that spoiler do

It's a pussy catcher, brah.

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


Colostomy Bag posted:

Depends on the car. Could have picked up a Countach when the market fell out in '08 for probably 70-80K.

But then those are hen's teeth. I enjoy someone else eating depreciation on everything else I buy.

I'm not talking about whether cars are a good investment, I'm saying car loans are low enough interest that even if you have the money, you should get a loan anyways and invest the money in an index fund.

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

bigbillystyle posted:

That could be it because I was thinking Thunderbird Super Coupe at first but I looked it up and the 0-60 on that was in the 7's.

There was also the Battlebird

but im not sure that would be competitive in 0-60

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Balliver Shagnasty posted:

It's a pussy catcher, brah.

I just did a real life spit take.

I showed a friend, who witnessed my spit take.

She had the exact same reaction.

Octopus Magic
Dec 19, 2003

I HATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU LIKE* AND I NEED TO BE SURE YOU ALL KNOW THAT EVERY TIME I POST

*unless it's a DSM in which case we cool ^_^

I thought you were supposed to save your complete desperation for girls on your snapchat feed, not advertise it to the whole world.

Slim Pickens
Jan 12, 2007

Grimey Drawer
Horny on main(street)

Thief
Jan 28, 2011

:420::420::420::420::420::420::420::420::420::420::420:

madeintaipei posted:

Err... are you thinking thunderbolt? Still in top ten for "production" automobiles over the 1/4 mile, 10.365 at 132.65mph.

oshit that name makes way more sense (considering only 100 were made apparently) and is exactly which car i was thinking of :sweatdrop:

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


This is wrong thread:

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Heh, that's awesome.

Lord Stimperor
Jun 13, 2018

I'm a lovable meme.

Octopus Magic posted:

I thought you were supposed to save your complete desperation for girls on your snapchat feed, not advertise it to the whole world.

gently caress i didn't even notice the writing on the wheels until now lmao

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Lord Stimperor posted:

gently caress i didn't even notice the writing on the wheels until now lmao

He'll remove them after I sent him mine.

Waldstein Sonata
Feb 19, 2013
The 70s were a hell of a drug

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.

Waldstein Sonata posted:

The 70s were a hell of a drug



:whatup:

fakeaccount
Jun 22, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Waldstein Sonata posted:

The 70s were a hell of a drug



I don't hate the rear end, conceptually at least. I can't make any decisions about the front end because it blinded me.

Goober Peas
Jun 30, 2007

Check out my 'Vette, bro


It's still better than the one in "Corvette Summer"

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!

Waldstein Sonata posted:

The 70s were a hell of a drug



Was that a real thing? I've seen one of those.
I don't know about the six headlights, but definitely the Corvette "wagon" thing.

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Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Goober Peas posted:

It's still better than the one in "Corvette Summer"

How much coke was required to design that thing?

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