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Pener Kropoopkin posted:She submits a vote of no confidence against herself and it fails. i now actually want this to happen
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oh no theresa please don't throw me in the briar patch. anything but that
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Mar 30, 2019 13:53
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System Metternich posted:On what short a notice could a general election feasibly be held? Like, even if May would be able to table MV4 as early as on Monday, after her inevitable failure this would leave her with a whopping eleven days for a GE to be prepared, candidates to be fielded, the vote to be conducted and the result to be determined before Brexit strikes, and that is even before the newly elected parliament meets for the first time, let aside the new government to start work. IIRC a GE typically happens five weeks after it is called. I'm American so that may be off, but regardless it sounds like loving heaven given that we're already months into bitching about 2020 presidential candidates and it's still ten months til the Iowa caucuses 
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System Metternich posted:On what short a notice could a general election feasibly be held? Like, even if May would be able to table MV4 as early as on Monday, after her inevitable failure this would leave her with a whopping eleven days for a GE to be prepared, candidates to be fielded, the vote to be conducted and the result to be determined before Brexit strikes, and that is even before the newly elected parliament meets for the first time, let aside the new government to start work. They'll need to hope calling an election is good enough for the EU to offer the UK another extension. May has until April 11th to ask, which would mean holding European Parliament elections (or the EU coming up with some workaround). Since she can't possibly get an election through parliament without a lot of Tory votes, and they would insist she not lead them into the election, there'll also need to be a time allowance made for a Tory leadership contest. Probably like 4 months is the soonest it could happen.
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Even if they call call a general election and the EU grants another extension (both before the 11th), then the only extention they will get will be the two year one, which means they will also have to arrange last minute European Parliamentary elections to take place on May 26th, so take whatever snap election chaos you're imagining and double it.
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Mar 30, 2019 14:23
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I'm bringin' Brexit back (yeah)
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i am fuckin stoked for may to fail so hard that her failure itself fails and she cant manage to call a ge
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Attorney at Funk posted:They'll need to hope calling an election is good enough for the EU to offer the UK another extension. Ever since they finished working out May's brexit deal, the EU has been surprisingly consistent about being willing to renegotiate after a snap election. One wonders if they'd still be up for it if said election put the tories into power with May at the head, though.
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Mar 30, 2019 15:07
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Brexit: This time it's Meaningful 4!
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have the eu indicated if they would renegotiate if instead of elections, riots??
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Zoran posted:the most fitting outcome to this whole thing would be May’s deal fails again but she can't trigger new elections when she calls for them because the rest of the Tories, the DUP, and the CUKs vote it down Well I don't know why I came here tonight, I got the feeling that something ain't right, I'm so scared in case I fall off my chair, And I'm wondering how I'll get down the stairs, Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right, here I am, Stuck in the brexit with you Yes I'm stuck in the brexit with you, And I'm wondering what it is I should do, It's so hard to keep this smile from my face, Losing control, yeah, I'm all over the place, Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, Here I am, stuck in the brexit with you
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Squizzle posted:have the eu indicated if they would renegotiate if instead of elections, riots?? I feel like Macron would have something to say about this lol
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Mar 30, 2019 15:43
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lol @ david cameron handing may brexit and fixed term parliament shite
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Mar 30, 2019 15:44
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She won't call a GE it's a threat to her party Back my deal or Corbyn is PM A way more effective threat than "Back my deal or its no deal" since a majority of tory members want no deal anyway
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Mackers posted:Brexit: Theresa May ponders fourth bid to pass deal You can't just vote on something till you get the result you want, typical remainer.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:no don't do it this except the opposite
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Mar 30, 2019 16:24
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t may: “I am the punishment of God...If you had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.”
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An insane mind posted:Brexit: This time it's Meaningful 4! *two months pass* Now That’s What I call Brexit! 24
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Much as I'm fed up with all this, I don't really want a General Election as well. If the tories won again, it wouldn't really change anything and if Labour won then we'd have to put up with them failing to achieve anything either (as I think their current policy is to go along with Brexit but somehow negotiate differently, by magic I guess). I can't really think of anyone I'd actually want to vote for right now. Wait a minute, what's Lord Buckethead up to these days?
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Stoatbringer posted:Much as I'm fed up with all this, I don't really want a General Election as well. If the tories won again, it wouldn't really change anything and if Labour won then we'd have to put up with them failing to achieve anything either (as I think their current policy is to go along with Brexit but somehow negotiate differently, by magic I guess). I can't really think of anyone I'd actually want to vote for right now. If your only metric as to whether a government is good or not is Brexit then you're a loving liberal running dog. Something like 150,000 people have been killed by Tory austerity. Lucky you if that's not a factor in your preference. Where's that picture of the woman at the march with a placard asking Theresa May to explain to her dog that he can't go on a skiing holiday 'Cause that's you
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Mar 30, 2019 16:50
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How have 150k peeps been killed by Tory BS? Genuinely curious
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Glenn Quebec posted:How have 150k peeps been killed by Tory BS? Genuinely curious 120k, mea culpa https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2017/nov/austerity-linked-120000-extra-deaths-england
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Barry Foster posted:120k, mea culpa Lmao gammon does clog arteries it seems
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Stoatbringer posted:Much as I'm fed up with all this, I don't really want a General Election as well. If the tories won again, it wouldn't really change anything and if Labour won then we'd have to put up with them failing to achieve anything either (as I think their current policy is to go along with Brexit but somehow negotiate differently, by magic I guess). I can't really think of anyone I'd actually want to vote for right now. EFTA type arrangement is now on the table I think. Labour is for it. Maybe even the Tories, who knows. The only thing standing in the way of getting something done is May now and getting rid of her ASAP should be priority number one for every man and woman in Britain. What's your alternative here? Dicking around for another year with that garbage dick May deal and then having an election anyway? Nothing will have changed. Do you seriously think she will get that dreck passes or that they find some cure for her autism? That's not gonna happen
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I don't really see how an EFTA-like arrangement would come even close to what the stated goals for Brexit are.
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Randler posted:I don't really see how an EFTA-like arrangement would come even close to what the stated goals for Brexit are. Oh no, the will of the laughably stupid electorate 
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Mar 30, 2019 17:13
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Even the goals of Brexit don't meet the goals of Brexit
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does EFTA mean brexit
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Barry Foster posted:120k, mea culpa that 120k only covers england 2010-2014, so your original number is probably closer
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Is this now the fourth time she wants a vote on her bill or? Can't keep it straight anymore.
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breftaxit
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Yinlock posted:https://twitter.com/charmada/status/1111587247005073409 sounds awfully German for a brexit group
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Hey, I didn't say I have all the answers.  But yes, getting May and the tories out would be great for many reasons other than just brexit. But whoever won, all they're going to be doing is yet more endless Bexit-related stuff for months if not years and dealing with the fallout from whatever eventually happens, one way or the other. Revoke article 50 and get back to doing proper stuff to help people and stop us all drowning when the seas rise twenty metres, instead of spending the next twenty years trying to negotiate trade deals with Bhutan and Greenland.
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IamFuckMan posted:Is this now the fourth time she wants a vote on her bill or? Can't keep it straight anymore. It takes them a few days to renumber the paragraphs to fool Bercow.
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Stoatbringer posted:Hey, I didn't say I have all the answers. Yeah it's just under the tories getting back to proper stuff means cutting everything to the bone, asset stripping the country and appealing to racists by deporting black UK citizens.
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Hentai Jihadist posted:Yeah it's just under the tories getting back to proper stuff means cutting everything to the bone, asset stripping the country and appealing to racists by deporting black UK citizens. Who can say which side is better, tho
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Is it the UK or EU that administers the local EU elections? I assume are they ready to hold one in the event the UK wishes to stay, otherwise why such a tight deadline for extension? Right now it's not known whether or not they will participate, so I'm not understanding why so close of extension.
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:Is it the UK or EU that administers the local EU elections? I assume are they ready to hold one in the event the UK wishes to stay, otherwise why such a tight deadline for extension? Right now it's not known whether or not they will participate, so I'm not understanding why so close of extension. The UK. *laughtrack*
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