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The A12x25? Worth every penny. I'd still like a Chromax version tho, or whatever the black Noctuas are called.
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 This conversation is distressing because I just swapped my case and radiator fans with chromax 140mm because a couple of my Vardars were starting to squeak. Granted, the chromax fans I got are significantly quieter at all levels than the vardars while they perform about the same (within 1C) at load, so I guess I can live with it.
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Indiana_Krom posted:
I still don't understand how the U12A came out of nowhere, and why they didn't want to offer it in black.
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Combat Pretzel posted:The A12x25? Worth every penny. Yeah, the one with the very tight blade tolerances, that are both made from a new compound, and look like gentle typhoons HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Mar 30, 2019 |
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I just cut my hand on a DH15 when I tried to replace my dead 2080ti. I'll jam the replacement into the 8x slot and just eat the 3% performance loss. 
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Media Bloodbath posted:I just cut my hand on a DH15 when I tried to replace my dead 2080ti. I'll jam the replacement into the 8x slot and just eat the 3% performance loss. Same reason I kinda want to go with the U12A instead of the D15-whatever. It's just a royal pain to fiddle with stuff and take out the GPU.
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Media Bloodbath posted:I just cut my hand on a DH15 when I tried to replace my dead 2080ti. I'll jam the replacement into the 8x slot and just eat the 3% performance loss. A libation should be offered. If this sequence is properly observed the machine may be brought to full activation by depressing the large panel marked "ON". 
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Ask me how I destroyed a Noctua 200mm and a Bitfenix 200mm within five minutes of opening their packaging before succeeding to not piss away money on the second Noctua.
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A12x25 is an unashamed Gentle Typhoon clone, so you can save ten bucks each and get GTs for near identical performance. Noctua themselves only quote a difference of .2-.3c noise matched, which is probably entirely the bearings.
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So, I needed a "new" machine for running my VM lab at home, so I ended up finding a SuperMicro quad G34 board and 4 x 16 Core AMD 6000 series CPUs. It works great, ended up buying 128GB of ECC DDR3R 16GB for $200 on ebay, the only issue I ran into was Xen failing to identify the NICs installed, and by that I mean it identified them, installed the drivers, and then disabled the cards before the installer kicked off, leaving it to claim there was not NICs. Ended up manually enabling them and it installed perfectly.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Ask me how I destroyed a Noctua 200mm and a Bitfenix 200mm within five minutes of opening their packaging before succeeding to not piss away money on the second Noctua. Okay, how the gently caress did you do that?
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I was holding off from a 6600k upgrade until Zen 2 but after yet another issue with a current gen game I decided to just say gently caress it. Got a 2600x on the weekend and even if I only use it until end of the year, definitely worth it. I didn't realize the extent my CPU was bottlenecking my GPU (GeForce 1080) but all of my issues with stuttering and etc are gone now.
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CommieGIR posted:So, I needed a "new" machine for running my VM lab at home, so I ended up finding a SuperMicro quad G34 board and 4 x 16 Core AMD 6000 series CPUs. How much power does that thing use? My dual 1366/5520 chipset board with two Xeon X5670s and 6x8GB DDR3R in it sits around 180W just idling (and around double that running Prime95) which makes me more inclined to sell it than take it home if I ever decide to stop using it at the office.
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Eletriarnation posted:How much power does that thing use? My dual 1366/5520 chipset board with two Xeon X5670s and 6x8GB DDR3R in it sits around 180W just idling (and around double that running Prime95) which makes me more inclined to sell it than take it home if I ever decide to stop using it at the office. At full load, with 2 x 1200w @ 120v redundant PSUs, its hovering around 350 watts, but its rated at 850 watts if all cores are hammering away. I also have an IBM Bladecenter with 4 x LS41 AMD Opteron quad blades but thats 2 x 2000w @ 230v, so it actually draws a little less current. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Apr 1, 2019 |
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The Gunslinger posted:I was holding off from a 6600k upgrade until Zen 2 but after yet another issue with a current gen game I decided to just say gently caress it. Got a 2600x on the weekend and even if I only use it until end of the year, definitely worth it. I didn't realize the extent my CPU was bottlenecking my GPU (GeForce 1080) but all of my issues with stuttering and etc are gone now. Which current gen game was that?
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spasticColon posted:Which current gen game was that? Far Cry 5, AC: O, certain areas of Apex Legends, BF V, Division 2 and I'm sure others I haven't had time to test yet. I saw huge improvements in Far Cry 5 and BF V especially, no more stuttering or hitching. I was worried about it being a waste with Zen 2 in a few months but I decided I will just upgrade whenever I feel like it and toss the 2600x in my file server.
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The Gunslinger posted:Far Cry 5, AC: O, certain areas of Apex Legends, BF V, Division 2 and I'm sure others I haven't had time to test yet. I saw huge improvements in Far Cry 5 and BF V especially, no more stuttering or hitching. I was worried about it being a waste with Zen 2 in a few months but I decided I will just upgrade whenever I feel like it and toss the 2600x in my file server. I'm so glad I have no desire to play any of those games because I'm still on a 2500k and waiting for Zen 2. I do want to play Cyberpunk 2077 when it finally comes out but I'll have a new system by then.
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The Gunslinger posted:Far Cry 5, AC: O, certain areas of Apex Legends, BF V, Division 2 and I'm sure others I haven't had time to test yet. I saw huge improvements in Far Cry 5 and BF V especially, no more stuttering or hitching. I was worried about it being a waste with Zen 2 in a few months but I decided I will just upgrade whenever I feel like it and toss the 2600x in my file server. Anyway, 2600x is super tempting with the firesale prices right now.
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spasticColon posted:I'm so glad I have no desire to play any of those games because I'm still on a 2500k and waiting for Zen 2. I do want to play Cyberpunk 2077 when it finally comes out but I'll have a new system by then. I'm having troubles with Sekiro which is a game I didn't expect to have issues with due to my 1080ti but it's dropping frames since I'm on an i5-3550. It'll drop to around 50 fps in some situations. Any OBS software streaming drops it to 40ish fps most of the time and alt-tabbing while the game is running slows chrome down a lot. I'm very tempted to just drop $420-$450ish on a 2600x, mobo, and ram and reuse everything else but I'm still trying to wait for Zen2.
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MagusDraco posted:I'm having troubles with Sekiro which is a game I didn't expect to have issues with due to my 1080ti but it's dropping frames since I'm on an i5-3550. It'll drop to around 50 fps in some situations. Any OBS software streaming drops it to 40ish fps most of the time and alt-tabbing while the game is running slows chrome down a lot. Streaming issues makes more sense based on your CPU, though, just don't expect stuttering to disappear completely.
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ufarn posted:Sekiro seems to have some issue with loading new map data or something. I don't recall FPS issues during fights, but it's very noticeable when you transition between areas. I don't know whether it's an issue on the CPU/GPU side, and it's not for lack of memory and SSD storage. I think it might have been Digital Foundry who also talked about it. Yeah I know about the stuttering issues. This was more "walk into the Bull bossfight and approach the bull before it breaks out and the framerate dropped to the 50s til most the physics objects are inactive. edit: I'm more making upgrade decisions on "Oh wow I finished it but Metro Exodus ran kinda bad sometimes even on the high preset even though it should run well on ultra with a 1080ti" and "...I guess I do want to play AC:O sometime" along with "wow BF1 ran like rear end a couple years ago but I guess I stopped caring about battlefield since none of my friends play it anymore so no big loss" edit 2: Though yeah at this point most games are still fine with the 3550. I partly wanna upgrade just because and partly "huh the 3550 nearly cooked itself when the fan started to fail and I didn't realize it for an hour or so" MagusDraco fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Apr 1, 2019 |
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Do not make upgrade decisions based on a FromSoftware game, ie the guys who needed modders to make their previous games work properly on PCs.
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Enable retpoline if you haven't already. Requires Windows 10 1809. It helped with my 3770, less hitching and lower CPU usage.
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pofcorn posted:Enable retpoline if you haven't already. Requires Windows 10 1809. It helped with my 3770, less hitching and lower CPU usage. Yeah I recently did that and it certainly helped some with Metro Exodus. edit: My other consideration for waiting on Zen2 is because I'm running around with a 2560x1440@144hz gsync monitor so Zen2's (hopefully) faster single-threaded performance would be nice. MagusDraco fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Apr 1, 2019 |
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MagusDraco posted:I'm having troubles with Sekiro which is a game I didn't expect to have issues with due to my 1080ti but it's dropping frames since I'm on an i5-3550. It'll drop to around 50 fps in some situations. Any OBS software streaming drops it to 40ish fps most of the time and alt-tabbing while the game is running slows chrome down a lot. Yeah I was getting random rear end stuff like this in most non-indie games so I eventually caved. 2-3 more months of misery vs just upgrading now and thankfully I can just dump in a Zen 2 CPU later if its worthwhile at that point. With these prices I couldn't resist, its great bang for the buck.
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What improvements are expected for the 5X0 motherboards? What's the advantage over buying a cheap X370 for Ryzen 2?
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We don’t know much other than PCIe 4.0 so far. It’s more about AMD taking the chipset back in house it seems. Also which x370 board you theoretically get will matter, because they will need BIOS updates. Speaking of Zen2, the board partners have engineering samples which means the leaks have started. A 4/8 engineering sample with 3.4 base and 3.8 boost clocks spotted leaked by MSi: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ryzen-3000-series-matisse-msi-meg-x570-creation,38967.html
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Wasn't Matisse the APU codename? Edit: Ah thanks, I was confusing it with Picasso Icept fucked around with this message at 14:45 on Apr 2, 2019 |
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That would be Renoir https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/amd/cores/renoir
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Cygni posted:We don’t know much other than PCIe 4.0 so far. It’s more about AMD taking the chipset back in house it seems. Also which x370 board you theoretically get will matter, because they will need BIOS updates. Oh I thought there had been more info on expected features. quote:Speaking of Zen2, the board partners have engineering samples which means the leaks have started. A 4/8 engineering sample with 3.4 base and 3.8 boost clocks spotted leaked by MSi: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ryzen-3000-series-matisse-msi-meg-x570-creation,38967.html
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I didn't see it mentioned here, but it looks like Lisa Su is delivering the first Computex keynote, which is pretty cool. Hopefully it's less of a disappointment than the CES one. Also also, some folks are saying the 3000 series delay is due to chipset issues. I wonder if it was a bigger hassle to swap from Asmedia to in house than they expected.
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Now I'm getting this feeling that the 8C/16T Zen 2 CPUs will probably start at ~$400 and who knows how much a decent X570 board will cost. A 2600X or 2700X build is looking more and more tempting.
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I'm banking on ~15% overall single thread uplift from Zen to Zen2 which tips it in favor of spending the extra $ for more longevity. I don't think 8/16 parts will start that high but anything beyond that (2 chiplet), if ever, would be very pricey indeed.
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I'm getting their highest-clocked 8/16 part, a PCIE 4.0 board, and rolling with that for 5-8 years. I could probably have done that with either 1000 or 2000 and stepped up at any point, but there's something to be said for cache coherency, and the memory controller being on its own die is more acceptable than the prior two-dies, each with their own memory controller approach.
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I'm gonna wait. It's still coming out in July right?
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Chas McGill posted:I'm gonna wait. It's still coming out in July right? There has never been a date given, that and the previous "leaked" specs are all wild speculation.
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Probably a dumb question, but are Virtual Box disk images CPU agnostic? Will an image created with an Intel CPU run on Ryzen or does it need to be adapted in some way?
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mcbexx posted:Probably a dumb question, but are Virtual Box disk images CPU agnostic? Disk images are indeed CPU agnostic. You do not need to modify the disk image or the OS installed on it just because you're running VirtualBox on a different machine, barring some edge cases with older OSes.
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