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Many schools give veterans priority registration ya? Cause if you haven’t been amongst a mass of 20 dweebs trying to petition a class while the same course with a diff professor who has bad ratings on ratemyprofessor.com at the same-ish time, with like 12 people in it.... I mean did you really go to school? Man gently caress all that noise.
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Mar 29, 2019 06:44
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Should I accept an honors society invitation?
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Mar 29, 2019 18:15
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It might qualify you for superior academic achievement for some federal job education requirements. I don't know what else they're good for.
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Woof Blitzer posted:Should I accept an honors society invitation? I assume you're asking b/c they charge money to join. The calculus is pretty simple and has come up elsewhere in this very thread: If Phi Beta Kappa, yes. If not, almost certainly no. I'm not being elitist or nuthin, I'm not in PBK, it's just that the point of those societies is (1) name recognition and (2) networking opportunities, and no honors society besides PBK has either. e: even PBK barely has (2). Eugene V. Dubstep fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Mar 29, 2019 |
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Mar 29, 2019 19:34
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Might also open up scholarship opportunities, if your GI Bill and YR don't cover everything
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Nick Soapdish posted:Might also open up scholarship opportunities, if your GI Bill and YR don't cover everything These opportunities tend to be overstated. Don't buy a $100 raffle ticket for a scholarship imo.
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You should always join any honors society if possible. If you don't have legitimate networking opportunities with it it's still an extra bullet point on your resume when you're trying to break into industry. If I have two individual candidates with largely the same qualifications I'm going to lean towards the guy that has honors society creds, regardless of ~the name~.
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Mar 29, 2019 19:40
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Boy, good thing I joined two then. Tau Sigma for transfer students who do well academically. Phi Alpha Theta for history students who do well academically. I'm collecting bling to wear at commencement in May. Heavy cords but I bear 'em, medals chafe but I wear 'em.
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Mar 29, 2019 22:27
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I can't speak to other industries but for mine junior level applicants will forever be the hunger games. Once you break into mid then you can stop playing games.
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Mar 29, 2019 22:30
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It’s the National Society of Leadership and Success (Sigma Alpha Pi). Sounds like some made up poo poo to me.
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Mar 29, 2019 22:55
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Woof Blitzer posted:It’s the National Society of Leadership and Success (Sigma Alpha Pi). Sounds like some made up poo poo to me. I got the same invite, they wanted 85 bux. Tossed it in the trash after I did some googling.
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If you are actively engaged in something that allows you to work with different people and helps you build a network in doing so, join it. If all you have to do is fill out a form to join and there is nothing beyond, what good is it to you aside from a resume bullet someone is going to skip over? There should be plenty of student activities and programs at your institution you should be filling that point in with instead.
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Mar 30, 2019 01:03
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Woof Blitzer posted:It’s the National Society of Leadership and Success (Sigma Alpha Pi). Sounds like some made up poo poo to me. whoops i gave em money
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lightpole posted:If you are actively engaged in something that allows you to work with different people and helps you build a network in doing so, join it. If all you have to do is fill out a form to join and there is nothing beyond, what good is it to you aside from a resume bullet someone is going to skip over? There should be plenty of student activities and programs at your institution you should be filling that point in with instead. It's literally checking a box. I was on a hiring panel for a junior analyst this month and we had 200 applicants that made it past the machine. We binned everyone that didn't have an internship and honors society. We were left with 30. I would pay 85 bucks to not get binned.
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I got invited to that Tau Sigma, it was like 45 bucks and when I looked it up it was literally less than 10 years old. I signed up because it was a bullet point. I have no idea if it made the difference in any hiring decision then, but I'll happily pay 45 bucks to put "blankety blank honor society" on my resume, no matter how hilariously contrived the idea of "honor society for transfer students" is.
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Vasudus posted:It's literally checking a box. I was on a hiring panel for a junior analyst this month and we had 200 applicants that made it past the machine. We binned everyone that didn't have an internship and honors society. We were left with 30. drat, guess I should've signed up. Oh well. Does veteran status help at all for these contracting gigs?
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GD_American posted:I got invited to that Tau Sigma, it was like 45 bucks and when I looked it up it was literally less than 10 years old. I signed up because it was a bullet point. I have no idea if it made the difference in any hiring decision then, but I'll happily pay 45 bucks to put "blankety blank honor society" on my resume, no matter how hilariously contrived the idea of "honor society for transfer students" is. lol hey there tau sigma buddy
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DoktorLoken posted:drat, guess I should've signed up. Oh well. Does veteran status help at all for these contracting gigs? Yes. edit: To expand on this, when you're fighting for junior spots there's literally hundreds of applicants if it's anywhere from May to September for a single or a handful of positions. It doesn't matter how important each individual item is on your resume, it doesn't matter how prestigious your honors society is, it doesn't matter where your internships were. If you're in the general applicant pool you need something, anything, to get your name above the rest. Vasudus fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Mar 30, 2019 |
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Mar 30, 2019 03:40
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I am in Lambda Pi Eta and the cost was menial. The requirements to get in are tough. Even if it means nothing ultimately, I am glad I am in it. It was my goal and I acheived it.
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Vasudus posted:It's literally checking a box. I was on a hiring panel for a junior analyst this month and we had 200 applicants that made it past the machine. We binned everyone that didn't have an internship and honors society. We were left with 30. I dont understand this as a criteria since you know exactly the value of it. Why not use a GPA cutoff and look at the extracurriculars since they demonstrate the team players, leadership, initiative, flexibility etc of the applicant? Edit: I'm being pedantic. I am frustrated because a lot of people in my program have jumped on similar box checks and ignored real opportunities for experience in the various things available to us and I am hoping the people here actually take advantage while they can. lightpole fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Mar 30, 2019 |
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lightpole posted:I dont understand this as a criteria since you know exactly the value of it. Why not use a GPA cutoff and look at the extracurriculars since they demonstrate the team players, leadership, initiative, flexibility etc of the applicant? Well for one our HR software we get access to as hiring managers can filter it out. It's a checkbox.
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I should also say that the advice I'm giving is for people in the general applicant pool for junior hires only. If you're from a feeder school, you have a different hiring process. If you're a referral, you have a different hiring process. If you were a past intern, you have a different hiring process. I don't even get a say in hiring those people, they're done in a different pipeline - they're what are called "capacity building" hires. Consulting/contracting companies do it to maintain their bench and build personnel before anticipated work being awarded. If you're a capacity building hire you're hired in a big fuckoff batch of like 40-60, given three months of bench time, and there's roughly 30 jobs open. It's the hunger games to get on a project, people with potential that don't make a project go do marketing work for a few months, and maybe 10-15 people quit because of various reasons unrelated. Most of the time they ditch us for a job in silicon valley. Mids and seniors are hired like regular adults. We just don't give a poo poo about juniors because, well, they're juniors.
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Yeah I'm just tired of trying to put together a team for different contests, programs, events etc and finding no interest and then having people joining random, boring clubs, just talking about poo poo instead of doing, all just for that check box. Also I didnt realize that most people dont make even 60k out of school and cant relate to your hiring process. I like my classmates but gently caress, get motivated and take some initiative! That goes for everyone here.
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I got emails from a couple different scammy sounding honor societies. I figured if they wanted me than they couldn't be that exclusive.
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Mar 30, 2019 05:01
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You guys know no one checks with the societies to verify membership, right? Just put that poo poo on the ol' rezzy and put your $80 on black at the casino or something.
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As I wrap up this research paper and close in in the final, I'm now thoroughly convinced that this entire business ethics course could have been an afternoon seminar. Thank God these terms are only 9 weeks long.
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Grem posted:You guys know no one checks with the societies to verify membership, right? Just put that poo poo on the ol' rezzy and put your $80 on black at the casino or something. Steady on, some of those honors society things end up on your transcript. So, while they don't/can't necessarily check, if they know what to look for they might call you out
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Vas, I’d like to hit you up on PM’s to ask you some career advice questions. As soon as I figure out how to use a plat cert on mobile I’ll be PM’ing you.
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Suntan Boy posted:As I wrap up this research paper and close in in the final, I'm now thoroughly convinced that this entire business ethics course could have been an afternoon seminar. Thank God these terms are only 9 weeks long. Ugh I have to do this too once I transfer. Not looking forward to it.
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Grem posted:You guys know no one checks with the societies to verify membership, right? Just put that poo poo on the ol' rezzy and put your $80 on black at the casino or something. Companies these days run credit checks, background checks, and social media screenings via services. It's also surprisingly cheap, putting incredibly invasive poo poo at the fingertips of many companies that otherwise wouldn't have access. Maybe I'm just old and lame, but playing with fire like that seems...unwise.
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Vasudus posted:Companies these days run credit checks, background checks, and social media screenings via services. It's also surprisingly cheap, putting incredibly invasive poo poo at the fingertips of many companies that otherwise wouldn't have access. Not every company. Most do less than the bare minimum of due diligence
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Well yeah, absolutely. The point I'm trying to make is that privacy is dead when it comes to employee applications and because of these investigations-as-a-service companies that exist you might get taken by surprise. If you're applying to a place where you want an honor's society to give you the nanoscopic edge over everyone else, it seems foolish to assume that the company wouldn't have access to one of these service companies. Especially considering it's usually under a hundred bucks one time to do it legit and never have to worry.
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Mar 31, 2019 02:00
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Honestly do not take my advice.
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Mar 31, 2019 02:35
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McNally posted:lol hey there tau sigma buddy see, we're already networking
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GD_American posted:see, we're already networking 
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Can I network with you guys?
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I am making a bad (actually good in the long run) decision to take the engineering thermodynamics class next semester because why not.
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All I know about thermo is undergrad engineering students came out of exams at my school with thousand yard stares.
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Thermo is amazing and awesome, but applied thermo is a mind shattering nightmare fuel. Go into it with eyes wide open. I'm a physicist, not an engineer, so Thermo is much more of a curiosity for me.
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