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JFairfax posted:what war crimes are UAE doing? They're part of the coalition helping the Saudis out. So by extension...
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Teresa May trying to no confidence her own goverment as its leader while the rest of her party vote to keep her and themselves shackled to the sinking ship is something alright every session of parliament should have yakkity sax playing on a loop
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Grape posted:They're part of the coalition helping the Saudis out. So by extension... oh I didn't realise that. cool, yeah they doin' the war crimes as well then
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JFairfax posted:yeah, and Obama did what, 2 regime changes? one of which helped bring back slavery to Libya. Why does no-one ever give the French credit for anything?
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Mar 31, 2019 17:18
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George W Bush is still demonstrably worse than any current world leaders.
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Pook Good Mook posted:George W Bush is still demonstrably worse than any current world leaders. Yes, somehow George W Bush is worse than any current world leaders in spite of there being various dictators and strongmen waging wars in other countries. You sound very aware of the world.
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Grape posted:Yes, somehow George W Bush is worse than any current world leaders in spite of there being various dictators and strongmen waging wars in other countries. You sound very aware of the world. George W Bush, well known for not waging wars in other countries
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Grape posted:Yes, somehow George W Bush is worse than any current world leaders in spite of there being various dictators and strongmen waging wars in other countries. You sound very aware of the world. it's kinda hard to argue with his results
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Thom12255 posted:Why does no-one ever give the French credit for anything? To be Fair, they had the right idea regarding the problem of having a monarchy. Also : the bush dynasty may well be the cause of the ever present threat of "terrisms"
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Mar 31, 2019 17:27
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Grape posted:Yes, somehow George W Bush is worse than any current world leaders in spite of there being various dictators and strongmen waging wars in other countries. You sound very aware of the world. Bush is responsible for far more dead people than anyone currently running a country. Afghanistan, Iraq, ISIS, Syria are all directly his fault. You can make an argument for Pakistan and Turkey's current political problems being traced to his terms.
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Mar 31, 2019 17:32
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staberind posted:To be Fair, they had the right idea regarding the problem of having a monarchy. switch 'may well' to 'definitely 100%'
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JFairfax posted:George W Bush, well known for not waging wars in other countries Almost like making the argument that he's the worst is ignoring a bunch of such like situations going on right now.
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Mar 31, 2019 17:35
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past a certain moral threshold theres no pt to arguing who is worse none of them should be in power and the removal or even retirement of any is a great joy
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Grape posted:Almost like making the argument that he's the worst is ignoring a bunch of such like situations going on right now. or being aware of them and thinking what he was responsible for was worse?
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Mar 31, 2019 17:36
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Pook Good Mook posted:Bush is responsible for far more dead people than anyone currently running a country. Afghanistan, Iraq, ISIS, Syria are all directly his fault. Raw death counts are one thing, but Iraq was not being annihilated in the same way as what is happening to Yemen. Also quote:You can make an argument [sic] Turkey's current political problems being traced to his terms. What is this complete nonsense lol.
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Mar 31, 2019 17:38
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Mackers posted:dude. I know it's been normalised by now but I must inform you trump is lovely but his shittyness (and the shittyness of our constitution) means that when the gears of government grind to halt we largely stop doing terrible things like invading the middle east in the case of britain the gears of government have also jammed but in such a way that all the flanges broke off and now the country is hurtling uncontrollably to its doom
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Squizzle posted:why will no one explain to me what "brexit" means??? well, you see, Brexit,
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I don't really get Americans acting like Trump isn't just a natural evolution of American politics. I mean, I suppose Brexit sorta is a natural evolution of a certain strain of British politics too, but going through with it is a way more permanent thing than electing another idiot president. Like, everything people say Trump is doing/going to do to the US is basically what Brexiteers are pursuing as official policy, more so in some cases. At least Trump was just supposed to be a pawn of Putin's, while Brexiteers are planning to make the vassal relationship official.
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Grape posted:What is this complete nonsense lol. turkey's always been a mess but iraq followed by syria certainly didn't help
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*gazes out at 20th century Turkish history* Wow, never would have guessed it would end up having problems with killing minorities, invading neighboring countries, authoritarian nationalists, and incredible tensions between secularism and religion. Must be a recent development. Grape has issued a correction as of 17:45 on Mar 31, 2019 |
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A Buttery Pastry posted:I don't really get Americans acting like Trump isn't just a natural evolution of American politics. I mean, I suppose Brexit sorta is a natural evolution of a certain strain of British politics too, but going through with it is a way more permanent thing than electing another idiot president. Like, everything people say Trump is doing/going to do to the US is basically what Brexiteers are pursuing as official policy, more so in some cases. At least Trump was just supposed to be a pawn of Putin's, while Brexiteers are planning to make the vassal relationship official. trump is the final victory of the conservatives from 1964 over the north-eastern republicans
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I'm sure if Trump wasn't an incompetent egomaniac moron he would be competing with Bush in terms of bodies. Not that Bush was smart but he was smart enough to let Cheney run everything. But yes ranking lovely leaders is stupid.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:trump is the final victory of the conservatives from 1964 over the north-eastern republicans If you hate Trump you should blame Newt Gingrich. There is nothing special about May in the context of the British new-aristocracy.
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marktheando posted:I'm sure if Trump wasn't an incompetent egomaniac moron he would be competing with Bush in terms of bodies. Not that Bush was smart but he was smart enough to let Cheney run everything. yeah given the bloodthirsty electorate that W had I'm pretty sure the entire world (rather than like a big brown chunk of it) would be a smoking ruin right now, probably through sheer retardedness if trump had that power E: and obama pardoned them all lol centrism is a disease Mackers has issued a correction as of 17:53 on Mar 31, 2019 |
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marktheando posted:More recently Tories were giving Bercow poo poo for having anti-Brexit stickers on his car, he had to explain it was his wife's car. bercow goes home for the night after a long day at parliament as his incensed wife absolutely reams him   quite staberind posted:Also : the bush dynasty may well be the cause of the ever present threat of "terrisms" tony blair is complicit too Lastgirl has issued a correction as of 17:57 on Mar 31, 2019 |
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Mar 31, 2019 17:54
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Lastgirl posted:tony blair is complicit too even a subservient little oval office like Blair sold the lives of his loving stupid military for promises of money and should have hung years ago. Instead he's a consultant and gets paid a fortune. Nice world good job.
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bony tlair
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Victory Position posted:well, you see, Brexit, Can you elaborate on that?
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coathat posted:They’re investigating British special forces training child mercenaries fighting in the genocidal Saudi UAE war on Yemen lol our childrens charities do that poo poo May tried to ethnically cleanse london and managed to fail because she's too spineless to double down. If you think May is the reason the UK is doing atrocities or has any idea that they're happening idk where to start
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Mackers posted:even a subservient little oval office like Blair sold the lives of his loving stupid military for promises of money and should have hung years ago. No Blair is a god botherer who thought God was telling him to invade the middle east. After he resigned Blair immediately converted to Catholicism and it turns out he had been one all along secretly, and used his time in office to join a religious crusade like the good old days. loving scumbag
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Stoatbringer posted:Can you elaborate on that? 
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That's awesome
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https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1112437466655608835
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you know after playing hoi4, brexit seems quaint when you remember the british had a constitutional crisis over one of their failsons marrying a divorcee
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Raskolnikov38 posted:you know after playing hoi4, brexit seems quaint when you remember the british had a constitutional crisis over one of their failsons marrying a divorcee the british had a constitutional crisis over the concept of taxes last century and the king completely eradicated the concept of the house of lords mattering in retaliation it is very useful to understand that in britain the monarchs are often to the left of the government, and being able to lean on this is why they keep surviving revolutions e; oh yeah to make the implication clear, "You can't be king" was waaaaaay to the tolerant side of the UKs views on "catholics" Spangly A has issued a correction as of 21:59 on Mar 31, 2019 |
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"- warned Tory MPs should fear the six million people who signed the recent petition to halt Brexit and the million who marched against it" Well well well.
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In fairness, he of all people has experienced the implications of ignoring mass protests.
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gently caress off tony blair for gently caress sake
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tarbrush posted:In fairness, he of all people has experienced the implications of ignoring mass protests. In his case it all worked out peachy, for him.
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