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TheWeepingHorse
Nov 20, 2009

YaketySass posted:

Women are loving too much, but not with you.

From the chart, it looks like the number of non-sex-having women has doubled, too. Why is nobody talking about this, either by itself or in connection with the male sexless rate?

Also, within the under-30 range, who isn't having sex? Is this a wave coming from the youngest end, or a post-collegiate phenomenon, or...?

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Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

:laffo: so do "leftist" people still stan for Wikileaks these days or what

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison

TheWeepingHorse posted:

From the chart, it looks like the number of non-sex-having women has doubled, too. Why is nobody talking about this, either by itself or in connection with the male sexless rate?

Also, within the under-30 range, who isn't having sex? Is this a wave coming from the youngest end, or a post-collegiate phenomenon, or...?

its almost certainly because everyone under 30 is trapped in gig economy hell, isn't starting a family/getting married, etc.

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog

TheWeepingHorse posted:

From the chart, it looks like the number of non-sex-having women has doubled, too. Why is nobody talking about this, either by itself or in connection with the male sexless rate?

Because the default way of talking about sex is to assume women are the passive product.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

uncurable mlady posted:

its almost certainly because everyone under 30 is trapped in gig economy hell, isn't starting a family/getting married, etc.

sex doesnt have to be procreative so i dont really see that as a good enough reason tbh

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

I am suspicious of this data. What's the sample size for each year, and what the gently caress happened in '97/'98 where the graph doubles?

Often Abbreviated
Dec 19, 2017

1st Severia Tank Brigade
"Ghosts of Honcharivske"

uncurable mlady posted:

its almost certainly because everyone under 30 is trapped in gig economy hell, isn't starting a family/getting married, etc.

I do wonder sometimes if everyone's hormones aren't hosed all to hell by something environmental like the gay frog chemicals. Seems like there's less sex across the board, more impotence, lower sperm counts, higher rates of breast cancer etc. Could just be lifestyle and anxiety poo poo like you say, but previous generations of poor people still hosed.

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison

mandatory lesbian posted:

sex doesnt have to be procreative so i dont really see that as a good enough reason tbh

i mean, people in a marriage or long term relationship are probably more likely to gently caress on the reg?

Conspiratiorist
Nov 12, 2015

17th Separate Kryvyi Rih Tank Brigade named after Konstantin Pestushko
Look to my coming on the first light of the fifth sixth some day

Often Abbreviated posted:

I do wonder sometimes if everyone's hormones aren't hosed all to hell by something environmental like the gay frog chemicals. Seems like there's less sex across the board, more impotence, lower sperm counts, higher rates of breast cancer etc. Could just be lifestyle and anxiety poo poo like you say, but previous generations of poor people still hosed.

Food for thought: we're seeing evidence of thiamine deficiency across large sections of the animal kingdom, that doesn't appear linked to either climate change or our agricultural practices. It's happening and we have no idea why.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

uncurable mlady posted:

i mean, people in a marriage or long term relationship are probably more likely to gently caress on the reg?

well sure but that study says a whole year and like, plenty of not committed people are loving at least yearly

Slim Jim Pickens
Jan 16, 2012

Often Abbreviated posted:

I do wonder sometimes if everyone's hormones aren't hosed all to hell by something environmental like the gay frog chemicals. Seems like there's less sex across the board, more impotence, lower sperm counts, higher rates of breast cancer etc. Could just be lifestyle and anxiety poo poo like you say, but previous generations of poor people still hosed.

Being poor in an agricultural society doesn't subject you to plastic microparticles in your drinking water or radon in your office building or other weird poo poo like that.

DONT THREAD ON ME
Oct 1, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Floss Finder
e: nm

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Hellsau posted:

I am suspicious of this data. What's the sample size for each year, and what the gently caress happened in '97/'98 where the graph doubles?

yeah the massive fluctuations make me think its pretty poo poo tbh

a.lo
Sep 12, 2009

https://twitter.com/AngeloJohnGage/status/1112092402037207041

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Often Abbreviated posted:

I do wonder sometimes if everyone's hormones aren't hosed all to hell by something environmental like the gay frog chemicals. Seems like there's less sex across the board, more impotence, lower sperm counts, higher rates of breast cancer etc. Could just be lifestyle and anxiety poo poo like you say, but previous generations of poor people still hosed.

BPA is an endocrine disruptor and everyone has plastics in their gut and lungs.

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy
me, eating plastic: i feel great!

my grandchildren, mockeries of the human form: please let me die

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Who's this? Why do they have a checkmark?

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Hellsau posted:

I am suspicious of this data. What's the sample size for each year, and what the gently caress happened in '97/'98 where the graph doubles?

AOL brings internet porn to the masses by dropping the hourly rates for a flat monthly fee

Homocow
Apr 24, 2007

Extremely bad poster!
DO NOT QUOTE!


Pillbug

Often Abbreviated posted:

I do wonder sometimes if everyone's hormones aren't hosed all to hell by something environmental like the gay frog chemicals. Seems like there's less sex across the board, more impotence, lower sperm counts, higher rates of breast cancer etc. Could just be lifestyle and anxiety poo poo like you say, but previous generations of poor people still hosed.
Adipose tissue expresses the aromatase enzyme (aka estrogen synthase) and so the more bodyfat a person has, the more aromatase activity there is. Sex hormone homeostasis is tightly regulated through hormonal feedback loops, either upregulating or downregulating hormones depending on concentrations of other hormones, w/r/t sex hormones there's a balance between androgens and estrogens which regulate each other. (through the HPTA if you're curious)

Being obese distorts the body's balance of sex hormones by overexpressing the aromatase enzyme (in fact it has been shown that aromatase inhibiting drugs can reverse this effect in obese men) and thus obese men are more likely to suffer from problems like erectile dysfunction, hypogonadism, and gynecomastia (man boobs). The cause is excessive bodyfat. The same problem occurs in women, but since they don't produce high levels of testosterone they face different consequences for disrupting the balance, such as PCOS. Obesity in men and women creates a disruption in sex hormone balance that can lead to serious medical problems (eg: breast cancer in women) and to get back to the original point: diminished sexual health.

Xenoestrogens (eg: BPA and many other pollutants) do play a role in the decline in male fertility, however I think the elephant in the room is obesity. Men and women are getting fatter and that has a direct connection to sex hormone regulation and fertility. Xenoestrogens can definitely cause fertility problems but exposure varies a great deal as do the consequences for various endocrine disruptors.

Phytoestrogens are essentially harmless to humans and IMO the internet (especially 4chan) has made a mountain out of a molehill ("soyboys") because the binding affinity of most phytoestrogens is so loving low that it can't be affecting the population in a non-trivial way. Phytoestrogens from soy and flax have been studied clinically and show little to no impact on human sexual function.

So, to summarize:
- obesity causes sexual health problems (and is largely responsible for the decline in male fertility)
- xenoestrogens contribute to sexual health problems but are far more limited in scope than obesity
- phytoestrogens (like in soy) are not only harmless, they very likely have a positive impact on human health because of their low affinity for the human estrogen receptor

Thanks for reading my carepost.

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

Zeroisanumber posted:

Who's this? Why do they have a checkmark?

his twit page has thought crimes and red pills shoved right into your face

so a nazi

Homocow
Apr 24, 2007

Extremely bad poster!
DO NOT QUOTE!


Pillbug
:thunk:

what's wrong with being a minority?

... are they treated badly?

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Dapper_Swindler posted:

lol, she was one of the best parts of black panther and she is pretty cool character in the comics too.

Only good part of that Movie is the Third Worldist who tries to end the reactionary system of Wakanda and use it to start a world revolution. Of course the CIA backed old gaurd stops him.

Charles 2 of Spain
Nov 7, 2017

Hellsau posted:

I am suspicious of this data. What's the sample size for each year, and what the gently caress happened in '97/'98 where the graph doubles?
Limp Bizkit released their debut album.

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
Slippery Tilde

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

yeah the massive fluctuations make me think its pretty poo poo tbh

agreed, youngest is very bouncy



30 year olds be fuckin

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Reclines Obesily posted:

agreed, youngest is very bouncy



30 year olds be fuckin

okay i feel comfortable ignoring that graph and drawing no conclusions from it

Bullfrog
Nov 5, 2012

The #sexRecession most likely does not have chemical or hormonal causes. Among lots of other factors, it's mainly social and economic. "Lack of sex" isn't the real problem. The root cause is that young people's social lives are being wrecked by the one-two punch of lack of accessible public social spaces and increasing reliance on social media.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019...eUwi-h5u9sSpXXE

Bullfrog has issued a correction as of 02:23 on Apr 1, 2019

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Dapper_Swindler posted:

lol, she was one of the best parts of black panther and she is pretty cool character in the comics too.

Who is it?

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
Slippery Tilde

Charles 2 of Spain posted:

Limp Bizkit released their debut album.

actually thinking more on this, 1998 is also considered one of the best years in gaming. poll is real and true

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

WHY DIES THIS ROTTING FUCKSTAIN OF A HUMAN BEING HAVE A CHECKMARK

oh wait

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

Conspiratiorist posted:

Don't diss on Tariq; he's crazy but he's hilarious.

He's a shithead op.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost
Tariq is a piece of poo poo Hotep who occasionally has goals that intersect with ours (e.g. gently caress fascism) but otherwise he's a gross scumbag.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


I wonder how much overlap there is between people who are freaking about the "sex recession" and people who denounce premarital sex as unnatural.


:thunk:

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
Slippery Tilde

Relin
Oct 6, 2002

You have been a most worthy adversary, but in every game, there are winners and there are losers. And as you know, in this game, losers get robotizicized!
im sure the article on lack of sex has been discussed itt but thats gonna result in a lot of new blood for the right over time :/

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Relin posted:

im sure the article on lack of sex has been discussed itt but thats gonna result in a lot of new blood for the right over time :/

Over a longer period of time it won't though lol.

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Grape posted:

Over a longer period of time it won't though lol.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Grape posted:

Over a longer period of time it won't though lol.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

I mean, the latter is much more entertaining then Sargon. Sargon is a bore.

Gizmoduck_5000
Oct 6, 2013

Your superior intellect is no match for our primitive weapons!

Hellsau posted:

...and what the gently caress happened in '97/'98 where the graph doubles?

I got my own place.

Badump tsssss

Edit: totally misread that graph

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NofrikinfuN
Apr 23, 2009


Charles 2 of Spain posted:

Limp Bizkit released their debut album.

:hmmyes:

We did it all for the nookie.

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