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Surprise T Rex posted:But you can't just go on promising people things, everyone knows that improving society is a myth and that all of politics is a zero-sum game. You can't just mess with the control panel! If you move the 'giving a gently caress about people' slider up, who knows which sliders will move down! It's only the good things that you're not allowed to do for fear of unintended consequences, because reasons.
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Lol https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1112679172693000195?s=19
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This didn't go unnoticed it was a deliberate strategy on Blair's part https://twitter.com/lisanandy/status/1112684076157333504?s=19
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Isn't this now both factions threatening an election at each other? Honestly lol. Zalakwe fucked around with this message at 13:10 on Apr 1, 2019 |
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Apr 1, 2019 13:07
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Zalakwe posted:Isn't this now both factions threatening an election at each other. Here he is arguing that no deal was clearly what won the referendum https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1112686419099582464?s=19
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Azza Bamboo posted:
This bit looks specifically designed to entice the DUP. Interesting. https://twitter.com/GlennBBC/status/1112682055312310273 SNP on board with CM2.0, but CUKs are saying they'll vote against. No word from Lib dems, so could still fail even if Labour whips for it. jabby fucked around with this message at 13:15 on Apr 1, 2019 |
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Apr 1, 2019 13:12
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jabby posted:This bit looks specifically designed to entice the DUP. Interesting. The customs union would also do this.
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Apr 1, 2019 13:15
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If we end up with May's Brexit because the CUKs and the Lib Dems won't back anything else I hope they are never allowed to forget it.
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Oh yeah, we're having another meaning(ful/less) vote today aren't we, hope they don't gently caress it up! Which they will.
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jabby posted:If we end up with May's Brexit because the CUKs and the Lib Dems won't back anything else I hope they are never allowed to forget it. There is a drat good chance they'll do this, because liberals are trash Edit - I mean I'm not saying it'll probably happen, but if it does I won't be surprised at all
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jabby posted:If we end up with May's Brexit because the CUKs and the Lib Dems won't back anything else I hope they are never allowed to forget it. The LibDems have been nothing but spineless little weasels for the last decade, let's assume the streak continues.
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Also just thought of this but Tony Blair assuming that Boris Johnson could beat Corbyn takes on board a pretty big assumption that Boris Johnson would become leader. The man is out manoeuvred by basically anyone and the last time he threw his hat into the ring he got stabbed in the back so quickly that Theresa May managed to become Prime Minister by sheer virtue of everyone else imploding around her.
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Azza Bamboo posted:
The EU will never agree to this, and it's going to be defeated by like 100-200 votes if it even makes it into voting. quote:D: Common Market 2.0 This seems iffy on the "will the EU accept" side of things, especially the UK having a say on EU trade deals.
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Jose posted:Here he is arguing that no deal was clearly what won the referendum LOL nice av I thought the assad chemical stuff being overblown was pretty common knowledge now or was it bollocks after all?
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Gonzo McFee posted:Also just thought of this but Tony Blair assuming that Boris Johnson could beat Corbyn takes on board a pretty big assumption that Boris Johnson would become leader. The man is out manoeuvred by basically anyone and the last time he threw his hat into the ring he got stabbed in the back so quickly that Theresa May managed to become Prime Minister by sheer virtue of everyone else imploding around her. Donald Trump is POTUS. Never underestimate the ability of rich buffoons to fail upwards endlessly
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Apr 1, 2019 13:28
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SNP have confirmed they will not back a customs union, because they won't back anything that doesn't guarantee freedom of movement. Could potentially still pass if some more Tories switch? Labour currently being cagey on whether they will support CM2.0. Thornberry just said she didn't know the whipping arrangement yet on Radio 4.
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Hentai Jihadist posted:LOL nice av One specific attack was claimed to be a chemical attack and probably wasn't https://theintercept.com/2019/02/09/douma-chemical-attack-evidence-syria/
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Maugrim posted:
Is this basically making it possible to VONC the PM specifically, rather than the govt as a whole?
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Whatever happens today the Tories are gonna tear themselves apart and I love it
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spiderbot posted:Is this basically making it possible to VONC the PM specifically, rather than the govt as a whole? Looks like it
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Sulphagnist posted:This seems iffy on the "will the EU accept" side of things, especially the UK having a say on EU trade deals. Yeah this is what got me worried...if the UK manages to pass a deal that is unacceptable for the EU as the only alternative to May's deal. Even if the EU agrees to an extension to discuss changes to the proposition, with the UK taking part in the European elections, I think the lack of "release" for the Brexiters could lead to harsher measures being discussed in the future. And if a soft brexit is the result after long negotiations, they may still be "hungry" for whatever pushed them to vote to Leave EVEN if they are actually out.
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Apr 1, 2019 13:42
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spiderbot posted:Is this basically making it possible to VONC the PM specifically, rather than the govt as a whole? Yes, he wants a way to get rid of an incompetent PM without forcing a General Election that potentially won't even get rid of them if they win it. I doubt it will pass even if voted on, because it would be parliament voting for party leaders.
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Barry Foster posted:Donald Trump is POTUS. Never underestimate the ability of rich buffoons to fail upwards endlessly Of course, but the Tory party elections aren't decided by votes, but by who's left without their throat cut. And Johnson has a fat neck.
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That Italian Guy posted:Yeah this is what got me worried...if the UK manages to pass a deal that is unacceptable for the EU as the only alternative to May's deal. Even if the EU agrees to an extension to discuss changes to the proposition, with the UK taking part in the European elections, I think the lack of "release" for the Brexiters could lead to harsher measures being discussed in the future. And if a soft brexit is the result after long negotiations, they may still be "hungry" for whatever pushed them to vote to Leave EVEN if they are actually out. I think that's too much of a worry, to be honest, the EU would rather we soften our Brexit as much as possible and what they've learned so far is standing strong despite May's begging has served them pretty well.
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Jedit posted:Yes, he wants a way to get rid of an incompetent PM without forcing a General Election that potentially won't even get rid of them if they win it. I doubt it will pass even if voted on, because it would be parliament voting for party leaders. An actual vote of no confidence in the government doesn’t even force a general election. This is the stupidest posing about
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Tesseraction posted:I think that's too much of a worry, to be honest, the EU would rather we soften our Brexit as much as possible and what they've learned so far is standing strong despite May's begging has served them pretty well. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47772603 quote:Yes, if MPs unite around a softer Brexit and if Theresa May accepts that wish and communicates it to the EU, Brussels says it can amend the political declaration in a jiffy.
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Jose posted:One specific attack was claimed to be a chemical attack and probably wasn't That's misleading - it was suspected to be a sarin attack (which got people hyped up because sarin is complex enough to manufacture that bombing facilities would prevent Assad from using it) but it turned out to be just regular old chlorine (which is still a war crime, but an incredibly easy one to do that you can't prevent Assad from doing without destroying his military).
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Apr 1, 2019 13:54
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Is there a good & interesting UK parliament episode today? When to start watching if so? no spoilers please
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jabby posted:SNP have confirmed they will not back a customs union, because they won't back anything that doesn't guarantee freedom of movement. Could potentially still pass if some more Tories switch? Labour being cagey makes me assume they're going for something remainers will not like.
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Darth Walrus posted:That's misleading - it was suspected to be a sarin attack (which got people hyped up because sarin is complex enough to manufacture that bombing facilities would prevent Assad from using it) but it turned out to be just regular old chlorine (which is still a war crime, but an incredibly easy one to do that you can't prevent Assad from doing without destroying his military).
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Darth Walrus posted:That's misleading - it was suspected to be a sarin attack (which got people hyped up because sarin is complex enough to manufacture that bombing facilities would prevent Assad from using it) but it turned out to be just regular old chlorine (which is still a war crime, but an incredibly easy one to do that you can't prevent Assad from doing without destroying his military). Ah yeah that's right. Either way he needs a visit from Mdm Guillotine
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Apr 1, 2019 14:03
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That Italian Guy posted:"release" for the Brexiters
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jabby posted:If we end up with May's Brexit because the CUKs and the Lib Dems won't back anything else I hope they are never allowed to forget it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbD1XDhKr8U
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Hentai Jihadist posted:LOL nice av Nope, evidence of repeated use is pretty clearly established. Tons of reports, etc on the OPCW site. https://www.opcw.org/media-centre/featured-topics/syria-and-opcw Of course, you have some who for some reason feel compelled to deny it all. But this is not the Syria thread, so really you should seek answers there. Rust Martialis fucked around with this message at 14:12 on Apr 1, 2019 |
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jabby posted:If we end up with May's Brexit because the CUKs and the Lib Dems won't back anything else I hope they are never allowed to forget it. How would this happen? Ending up with May's brexit?
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Ler posted:Labour being cagey makes me assume they're going for something remainers will not like. It also could be that front bench members aren't happy about whatever compromise is being suggested and there's negotiations ongoing to get people on side
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NotJustANumber99 posted:How would this happen? Ending up with May's brexit?
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^^^ In Soviet Britain, field of wheat run through you! NotJustANumber99 posted:How would this happen? Ending up with May's brexit? Desperate attempt to prevent or at least postpone NDB. That's what May wants, and whether she gets it is probably in the hands of the Tartans and Chuka's splitters.
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