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Shifty Pony posted:Trump's messaging "genius" is lying literally all of the time about everything while insisting it was all some master plan when he gets called out and cornered with a lie. He does this because he doesn't have a good understanding of almost anything but also has a pathological need to never admit a flaw, so he just bullshits. They are not smart lies at all, in fact most of them are very very dumb lies, but people are more accepting of things that confirm their beliefs so they conclude that Trump stands for things they like while dismissing everything else as "oh he didn't mean that he's just lying to people who care about that so they vote for him". Unfortunately, this isn't a new legal question. Fox News has been operating under this defense for some time. Bill O' Reilly was sued for defamation and the judge said he was such a clown no reasonable person would take him seriously. I can't find a source (he's been sued a lot), but I remember the story.
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Shifty Pony posted:Trump's messaging "genius" is lying literally all of the time about everything while insisting it was all some master plan when he gets called out and cornered with a lie. He does this because he doesn't have a good understanding of almost anything but also has a pathological need to never admit a flaw, so he just bullshits. They are not smart lies at all, in fact most of them are very very dumb lies, but people are more accepting of things that confirm their beliefs so they conclude that Trump stands for things they like while dismissing everything else as "oh he didn't mean that he's just lying to people who care about that so they vote for him". In other words everyone else in the 2016 Republican Primary failed because they were playing the part of the obnoxious incurious moron. Trump has been living that role for much of his life. His entire public personality has been artificial for so long it's all that he has and understands. Everything is extremes to him. Big Water, Best Deals, Worst People, Greatest Persecution. He's been the poor person's idea of what a rich person is like and his presidency has been carried out the way a Tea Party True Believer thought that Obama was going to Any Day Now.
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Lycus posted:I think I got it. She thinks Carrey is criticizing Italy in general, so she's going, "What about this bad thing that America did?!" I think you are right. Too bad attacking Mussolini isn't attacking Italians. After all, Italians killed Mussolini. I'm not a good student of history or really politics, but it is kinda weird to me that Italy is so closely tied both to anarchism and to fascism. I mean, in the early 20th century, the first Red scare very much focused on Italian Americans for their perceived connection to anarchy, no? And then short time later Italian Americans are suspicious because they might be supporters of Mussolini.
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alpha_destroy posted:I think you are right. Too bad attacking Mussolini isn't attacking Italians. After all, Italians killed Mussolini.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:He hasn't even bothered responding to her, he's just letting the rest of the internet dunk on her for him "Low-hanging fruit" was right there for you.
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Lycus posted:I think I got it. She thinks Carrey is criticizing Italy in general, so she's going, "What about this bad thing that America did?!" Well, criticism of Mussolini being criticism of Italy lines up nicely with current events...  Deified Data posted:Hold on is Comey saying we need someone in the middle in an April Fools joke an admission that he finds the idea preposterous? Or am I reading too much into it and it's just a poorly-crafted prank? It's the latter
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Taerkar posted:In other words everyone else in the 2016 Republican Primary failed because they were playing the part of the obnoxious incurious moron. Trump has been living that role for much of his life. His entire public personality has been artificial for so long it's all that he has and understands. Everything is extremes to him. Big Water, Best Deals, Worst People, Greatest Persecution. Trump wouldn't have even made it through the Republican primary if there had been less candidates He didn't have a plan at the start, it was a grift to raise his profile. But he kept getting pluralities (Not majorities!) during the early primary season. Had Jeb, or Rubio, or Ted Cruz, or literally any one of the other major candidates (or probably if it were only two) been the only person competing with him, he never would have gotten the nomination. Cruz was still trying to scrape something together in the handful of months right before. Trump clearly had no idea that would happen. He just knew that he could say things, get adoration. The unique circumstances of the race, which he was not purposefully trying to exploit, allowed him to win. During the general campaign, the majority of the votes he received were simply because he was a Republican. The man isn't a genius at anything. He's a conman who was in the right place at the right time, and not because of any savvy.
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Deified Data posted:Hold on is Comey saying we need someone in the middle in an April Fools joke an admission that he finds the idea preposterous? Or am I reading too much into it and it's just a poorly-crafted prank? ...the joke is that he's not running, you are overthinking this a lot
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mdemone posted:"Low-hanging fruit" was right there for you. Except it's not low-hanging, quite the opposite.
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mdemone posted:"Low-hanging fruit" was right there for you. I don't use gendered slurs!
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Ague Proof posted:I hope that's not a trial-balloon. it's obviously not, and even if it was, who cares, the man doesn't have a constituency The left sees him as giving us Donald Trump, the right sees him as betraying Donald Trump, there's nobody who wants him and he'd affect nothing
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theflyingorc posted:it's obviously not, and even if it was, who cares, the man doesn't have a constituency James Comey/Hilary Clinton 2020 ticket for most unlikely candidates.
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The DC Foreign Policy Consensus-pushed coup in Venezuela is taking another crack at changing some minds. If you're wondering "so whose faildaughter is this?" the answer is Guaido's economic adviser. https://twitter.com/nytopinion/status/1112742108958478339?s=19 NYT is Bad.
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theflyingorc posted:it's obviously not, and even if it was, who cares, the man doesn't have a constituency I take it it's the same #Resistance "liberals" that retweet NeverTrumps and want Republicans to save us from Trump with the 25th Amendment.
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Lycus posted:I take it it's the same #Resistance "liberals" that retweet NeverTrumps and want Republicans to save us from Trump with the 25th Amendment. He's not even popular among those groups, though he probably was briefly after he was fired I hate Comey a lot less than the average person posting in this thread, and I wouldn't come close to voting for him, nor do I know almost anyone who would vote for him. He doesn't have an argument to make for his candidacy
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theflyingorc posted:Trump wouldn't have even made it through the Republican primary if there had been less candidates That is quite likely, but again things happened how they did because he wasn't playing a part. He was the racist and sexist monster that enough of the base wanted to endure while others faded away. The winner-takes-all nature of the GOP primary ensured that he only needed the pluralities and I'm honestly not certain that any other candidate would have necessarily beaten him if there were less contenders. Jeb was a less interesting Romney, Rubio kinda looks like The Other, Ted Cruz is Ted Cruz. Each one of them had bits that made them unlikable to the ugly fervent base of the GOP that Trump naturally appealed to.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:He hasn't even bothered responding to her, he's just letting the rest of the internet dunk on her for him  If she really wanted to get him on equivalence, she'd bring up his role in the current anti-Vaxer debate. Meatball posted:I grow tired of this "middle of the road" people who almost inevitably list a bunch of conservative ideas. Naw, They Live... quote:Frank: I got a job now and I plan on keeping it. I'm walking a white line all the time. I don't bother nobody. Nobody bothers me. You better start doing the same!
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Bugsy posted:expanding ironicat.gif Rosa Park singular
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Why not, there's not much daylight between him and Joe Biden, the most likely Democrat nominee
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Everyone assumed that as normal secret-ghoul GOP candidates dropped out, their support would go to others and the open ghoul Trump would eventually be overwhelmed. But that really wasn't the case, he still picked up some of that support. We may see that come around on the Dem side as centrists drop out and Bernie gets some of their supporters.
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Taerkar posted:That is quite likely, but again things happened how they did because he wasn't playing a part. He was the racist and sexist monster that enough of the base wanted to endure while others faded away. The winner-takes-all nature of the GOP primary ensured that he only needed the pluralities and I'm honestly not certain that any other candidate would have necessarily beaten him if there were less contenders. Jeb was a less interesting Romney, Rubio kinda looks like The Other, Ted Cruz is Ted Cruz. Each one of them had bits that made them unlikable to the ugly fervent base of the GOP that Trump naturally appealed to. Eltoasto posted:Everyone assumed that as normal secret-ghoul GOP candidates dropped out, their support would go to others and the open ghoul Trump would eventually be overwhelmed. But that really wasn't the case, he still picked up some of that support. We may see that come around on the Dem side as centrists drop out and Bernie gets some of their supporters. theflyingorc fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Apr 1, 2019 |
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Eltoasto posted:Everyone assumed that as normal secret-ghoul GOP candidates dropped out, their support would go to others and the open ghoul Trump would eventually be overwhelmed. But that really wasn't the case, he still picked up some of that support. We may see that come around on the Dem side as centrists drop out and Bernie gets some of their supporters. Yeah it doesn't make sense to me but there do exist a probably statistically significant number of people whose first choice is Biden and whose second choice is Bernie.
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Pakled posted:Yeah it doesn't make sense to me but there do exist a probably statistically significant number of people whose first choice is Biden and whose second choice is Bernie. Donald Trump is president. You haven't realized that the way people vote is "kind of" stupid?
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TheScott2K posted:The DC Foreign Policy Consensus-pushed coup in Venezuela is taking another crack at changing some minds. If you're wondering "so whose faildaughter is this?" the answer is Guaido's economic adviser. I will never understand this thread's determination to paint recognizing Guaido as a US-led coup attempt.
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mango sentinel posted:I will never understand this thread's determination to paint recognizing Guaido as a US-led coup attempt.
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mango sentinel posted:I will never understand this thread's determination to paint recognizing Guaido as a US-led coup attempt. You think he's leading it?
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mango sentinel posted:I will never understand this thread's determination to paint recognizing Guaido as a US-led coup attempt. Good: Sanction country through peaceful means to encourage the deposition of a leader and allow for new elections Bad: Just assign a new president to a country and then threaten invasion if they don't comply.
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CuddleCryptid posted:Good: Sanction country through peaceful means to encourage the deposition of a leader and allow for new elections
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mango sentinel posted:I will never understand this thread's determination to paint recognizing Guaido as a US-led coup attempt. https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1088822095168131077?s=19
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Saint Celestine posted:I am kinda surprised theres a Mussolini in Italian politics. The father of Italy, Garibaldi, marched against the armies of the Papal States, drew the borders of the Vatican with a spear, unified Italy, lynched every rapist priest he could get his hands on, and was immortalized by an array of Masonic statues marching in glory towards the Gilded City, that one day he might finish the job. Mussolini turned them around as part of his deal with the Catholic Church. Every statue of the leader who rose with the Italian people to destroy the Papal States, uniting what had been divided for over a thousand years was twisted, corrupted into the service of the pedophilliac conspiracy he lead cavalry charges against. After the War, the United Nations Organization reasserted the Catholic Church's claim to extraterritoriality, first put into law by Benito Mussolini. The statues are still riding the wrong way.
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