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Gyro Zeppeli posted:God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change. Yeah. For whatever reason tonight hasn't hit me too hard. Usually I freak the gently caress out. As is I'm just listening to synthwave and getting high. Also watching that Nick Boles video. 'Oh Nick! Don't go...' EDIT - 21 is the age at which you should start getting high. It's bad before you brain before then.
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Itzena posted:For reference: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/constituencies/E14000714 Probably not a lot. Honestly I've got to respect the lengths he's willing to go find a solution. More than you can say of most of his fellow Tories...
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change. By design there is no democratic control on the government lol Literally nobody I know even votes in a constituency where their vote counts
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Itzena posted:For reference: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/constituencies/E14000714 isn't his constituency like, 62% leave? they'll probably be voting blue for time eternal
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Stalingrad posted:Jesus christ, how are there so many contemptuous moronic shits in parliament. You mean the ancient chamber that was designed to grant power to an aristocracy ripped from the hands of a monarch and then only partially altered to allow the extremely rich to stand before being completely dominated by party frameworks might not select on ability!?!
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Itzena posted:For reference: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/constituencies/E14000714 Apparently the constituency is 61% leave, so unless he's remarkably popular with his own electorate (which is rare in a seat that save if your own constituency party is moving to deselect you), not much.
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Barry Foster posted:Yeah. For whatever reason tonight hasn't hit me too hard. Usually I freak the gently caress out. As is I'm just listening to synthwave and getting high. Wish I could get high but I'm away from heim so I'm just drinking and petting some dogs too hard
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I really wish the Blairites had been accurate when they said Corbyn and McDonnell were going to purge the party of anyone to the right of them, because it sure would be less loving embarrassing than having such a significant percentage of Labour MPs always backing the stupidest loving options
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Yeah I was joking about the dogs theyr doing fine Theyr blameless
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Hentai Jihadist posted:Wish I could get high but I'm away from heim so I'm just drinking and petting some dogs too hard Sorry bud. I don't have any dogs here so I guess we're even, and could possibly both benefit from some sort of economic or cultural exchange EDIT But no, Brexit means Brexit
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Sex Robot posted:The DUP changed their minds last minute and noed everything. Lady Demelza posted:There are now a whole seven MPs discussing the future of rubbish dumps, which somehow seems fitting as that appears to be where we're heading. A slim majority that fucks everything up, is pretty fitting after the referendum that set it all in motion. 
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seizure later posted:I really wish the Blairites had been accurate when they said Corbyn and McDonnell were going to purge the party of anyone to the right of them, because it sure would be less loving embarrassing than having such a significant percentage of Labour MPs always backing the stupidest loving options Yeah as easy as it is to blame the CUKLDs it seems like we coulda had some poo poo pass if not for lovely labour MPs voting for bollocks
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seizure later posted:isn't his constituency like, 62% leave? they'll probably be voting blue for time eternal This is quite literally Thatcher's home town he's basically just put himself out of a job. And by just I mean he'll be in it for three more loving years.
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So what is the process for selecting Labour MPs? Does an MP need to be deselected before a general election is announced, or does it happen after?
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so when's the next vote that will end in "the cliff should move out of the way first"?
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Parliament had a bad case of blue boles, not anymore! gently caress that was a bad joke. I blame brexit anxiety.
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double nine posted:so when's the next vote that will end in "the cliff should move out of the way first"? Weds I think?
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Barry Foster posted:EDIT - 21 is the age at which you should start getting high. It's bad before you brain before then. Evidently Pre-emptive 
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Gort posted:If it ends up with "Do you want Common Market 2.0 or Customs Union" and one wins that's a majority Even if you design a motion that says 'voting no is voting for a customs union' MPs could just abstain and it would have no democratic legitimacy. And even if you got a result you'd eventually need to write it into law and a majority could simply vote against that. Our binary voting system really doesn't allow you to force MPs into voting for something. The Lord of Hats posted:How much of this is CUK-style remainers refusing anything that isn't their ideal result? All of it. It's all their fault. Enough Labour MPs who support a people's vote abstained on CM2.0 that it could've passed.
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coffeetable posted:So what is the process for selecting Labour MPs? Does an MP need to be deselected before a general election is announced, or does it happen after? It's down to the CLP: Selection of parliamentary candidates Functions of the CLP include selecting the local Labour Party candidate for a national parliamentary General Election. Where there is a sitting Labour MP, the CLP organises a 'trigger ballot' to decide whether it wishes to carry out the full selection procedure outlined below or simply endorse the sitting MP as their candidate at the next election. It is unusual for a sitting MP to 'lose' their trigger ballot. In the event that the MP is not a Labour MP, or the sitting MP is retiring or has lost their trigger ballot, a full selection is organised. The CLP must follow the procedures agreed by the National Executive Committee including whether or not the selection will be carried out from an open or all-women shortlist. The CLP can choose whether or not to select a candidate on the Labour Party's panel of approved candidates. However, should the CLP select a candidate not on the panel its decision is subject to the National Executive Committee retrospectively satisfying itself that the candidate reaches the standard required to join the panel. In this and other circumstances (for example new information emerging about a candidate subsequent to their selection) the National Executive Committee has exercised its power to block a CLP's initial choice of candidate, which has on occasion proved controversial. It's typically in the run up to the election, if there's time (there wasn't for the snap election last time), but it can happen any time, as it has for a number of poo poo MPs I think. Good lord, how insanely stupid this all is.
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if hoey doesn't get deselected nobody is she's a fundamentalist leaver who called her leader a traitor in front of a baying fascist crowd from a london constituency what the gently caress
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At this point I don't even think a General Election announcement would be enough for us to be given a long extension. It'd almost certainly end up with another hung parliament and another year or two of this poo poo.
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Owen loving Smith. What a tosser. Wonder how the fubpees will spin that particular outcome
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^^^^ excellentElliptical Dick posted:Evidently Hey ohhhh
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V. Illych L. posted:if hoey doesn't get deselected nobody is At least when the tabloids and far right get Corbyn killed we'll hopefully get some kinda martyrdom bounce
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Itzena posted:Wonder how much of that Tory vote he could hang on to? You mean how much of that vote he can peel away from the Tories while the 15k or so Labour voters drum up more support  sudo rm -rf posted:yeah but that's still a lot of loving people It's definitely impressive.
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Azza Bamboo posted:You mean how much of that vote he can peel away from the Tories while the 15k or so Labour voters drum up more support This.
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jabby posted:Even if you design a motion that says 'voting no is voting for a customs union' MPs could just abstain and it would have no democratic legitimacy. And even if you got a result you'd eventually need to write it into law and a majority could simply vote against that. Eh, I think you overestimate how much weight we give to abstentions. If Customs Union had won by ten votes but 150 MPs abstained, I think its praises would be sung nonetheless. Not to mention we have eleven days left until "Voting no is voting for No Deal Brexit" is the reality.
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StarkingBarfish posted:Owen loving Smith. What a tosser. Wonder how the fubpees will spin that particular outcome Corbyn bad is how.
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thespaceinvader posted:Corbyn bad is how. Well yeah but owen Smith is good because we need a people's vote not flak jackets for our boys
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Has may made a speech about her intent to bring her deal back to parliament yet?
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Ahahahaha, just saw the vote results. This Parliament is just 650 MPs in a circle making GBS threads into a bucket over and over and over again
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Rarity posted:Ahahahaha, just saw the vote results. This Parliament is just 650 MPs in a circle making GBS threads into a bucket over and over and over again You think that's a bucket? That's a country.
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Rarity posted:Ahahahaha, just saw the vote results. This Parliament is just 650 MPs in a circle making GBS threads into a bucket over and over and over again The bucket in this metaphor represents the British people
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