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Anyone got a link to the dude that was digging a rando tunnel under his building?
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God, I hate when my excavator gets worms.
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Apr 1, 2019 23:30
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Icon Of Sin posted:Torpedos, I’ve heard. Displace all the water under the center of the ship, and let gravity be the harsh mistress she enjoys. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vaImLvZbPw
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Apr 1, 2019 23:50
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Wasabi the J posted:Isn't having a large ship fall onto it's keel how sea mines work? Icon Of Sin posted:Torpedos, I’ve heard. Displace all the water under the center of the ship, and let gravity be the harsh mistress she enjoys. Yeah they can either be direct impact explosives, or detonate next to the ship to use the shock wave to literally shake the ship apart, or lift the ship up and then drop it into the cavity of water created by the explosion. Ship hulls are designed to deal with downward pressure, not upward, so that can literally break their back.
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Apr 1, 2019 23:52
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Oh poo poo, they got me. I thought they were filming a real battle. Looks like I'm the fool who got April'd.
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Apr 2, 2019 00:01
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Memento posted:Yeah they can either be direct impact explosives, or detonate next to the ship to use the shock wave to literally shake the ship apart, or lift the ship up and then drop it into the cavity of water created by the explosion. Ship hulls are designed to deal with downward pressure, not upward, so that can literally break their back. IIRC there's also the fact that the torpedo explosion creates a big gas bubble, which collapses and creates a jet of water that can cut a ship in half. See around 0:28 in that video; there's an explosion, the ship settles and cracks, and then there's another big spray of water that punches through the bridge.
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Apr 2, 2019 00:28
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Memento posted:Yeah they can either be direct impact explosives, or detonate next to the ship to use the shock wave to literally shake the ship apart, or lift the ship up and then drop it into the cavity of water created by the explosion. Ship hulls are designed to deal with downward pressure, not upward, so that can literally break their back.  Modern anti-ship torpedoes are designed to break something the size of a frigate or destroyer in half.
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Apr 2, 2019 01:32
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Oh poo poo, is the boat gonna be okay? 
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Apr 2, 2019 01:36
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It's just resting. Had a bad breakup.
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Apr 2, 2019 01:51
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It doesn't seem to have any shoes, so the outlook isn't great.
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Apr 2, 2019 01:52
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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FuturePastNow posted:Modern anti-ship torpedoes are designed to break something the size of a frigate or destroyer in half. This might not be something that can be precisely measured, but outside of long-range missile bombardment or nuclear strike, what's the most expensive kind of warfare to field? Like, one torpedo takes out a destroyer, the right amount of loose wire takes out a helicopter, everything about the F-35, just the sheer amount of money poured into Coalition forces versus largely destitute terrorist organizations in Bush's illegal war, it kinda seems like everything the military produces can be rendered inoperable with surprisingly cheap tools.
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Apr 2, 2019 01:56
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I would think most torpedoes are anti-ship torpedoes. I can't imagine there is much demand for a pro-ship torpedo.
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Apr 2, 2019 01:59
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PHIZ KALIFA posted:This might not be something that can be precisely measured, but outside of long-range missile bombardment or nuclear strike, what's the most expensive kind of warfare to field? A human being can be rendered inoperable with a few cents of lead.
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Apr 2, 2019 01:59
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Powershift posted:I would think most torpedoes are anti-ship torpedoes. I can't imagine there is much demand for a pro-ship torpedo. It sprays a fresh coat of paint all over the ship just before the Admiral shows up.
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Apr 2, 2019 02:03
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Platystemon posted:A human being can be rendered inoperable with a few cents of lead. But how much do the machines cost.
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Apr 2, 2019 02:09
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PHIZ KALIFA posted:But how much do the machines cost. The thing is, you can lose an unlimited number of drones. You can lose as many as you can build. You can only lose as many planes as you have pilots, you can only lose as many boats as you have seamen. So with no cost concerns, drone warfare would be the most expensive.
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Apr 2, 2019 02:13
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PHIZ KALIFA posted:This might not be something that can be precisely measured, but outside of long-range missile bombardment or nuclear strike, what's the most expensive kind of warfare to field? Defense is always playing catch up to attack. Weapons get better. Countermeasures against them improve. Warships have sonar to try to detect submarines, and carry helicopters to extend the range of that defense, and submarines have stealth. Submarines have really good stealth. But we haven't fought an enemy since WWII that posed a serious threat to ships and the weapons (and defenses) have changed a lot since then, so while the military no doubt practices and wargames constantly, no one can know what would really happen if, say, China decided to try to evict the US Navy from the Pacific.  Photo credit: Soviet Navy
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Apr 2, 2019 02:18
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I lust for cruise ship death
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Apr 2, 2019 02:18
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McSpanky posted:I lust for cruise ship death Good news, it seems you have a powerful ally in "cranes"
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Apr 2, 2019 02:19
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Powershift posted:Good news, it seems you have a powerful ally in "cranes" Is cranes vs cruise ships the new zombies vs pirates?
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Apr 2, 2019 02:24
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:Is cranes vs cruise ships the new zombies vs pirates? I guess. https://i.imgur.com/tvihjR4.mp4 I'm just glad the cranes are finally fighting back.
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Apr 2, 2019 02:29
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McSpanky posted:I lust for cruise ship death 
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Apr 2, 2019 02:32
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Powershift posted:I would think most torpedoes are anti-ship torpedoes. I can't imagine there is much demand for a pro-ship torpedo. You should make like a U-boat and 360 yourself away from these jokes.
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Apr 2, 2019 02:38
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Beccara posted:Anyone got a link to the dude that was digging a rando tunnel under his building? I went looking for it a few months back and he deleted his youtube account  edit: I was wrong! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ner-AnCDuAs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLxNoh4zmrc FCKGW fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Apr 2, 2019 |
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Apr 2, 2019 03:24
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Powershift posted:I'm just glad the cranes are finally fighting back. Fighting back against EXCELLENT. That ship name is still the delightful cherry on top of a schaden-OSHA sundae. 
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Apr 2, 2019 03:28
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Admiral Joeslop posted:You should make like a U-boat and 360 yourself away from these jokes. Crazy Ivan
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Apr 2, 2019 03:57
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FCKGW posted:I went looking for it a few months back and he deleted his youtube account loving hell are his buttresses aluminum? Like I don't know why that upsets me more than the existence of this project to begin with or his refusal to wear shoes, but here I am.
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Apr 2, 2019 04:38
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Powershift posted:The thing is, you can lose an unlimited number of drones. You can lose as many as you can build. FuturePastNow posted:Defense is always playing catch up to attack. Weapons get better. Countermeasures against them improve. Warships have sonar to try to detect submarines, and carry helicopters to extend the range of that defense, and submarines have stealth. Submarines have really good stealth. But we haven't fought an enemy since WWII that posed a serious threat to ships and the weapons (and defenses) have changed a lot since then, so while the military no doubt practices and wargames constantly, no one can know what would really happen if, say, China decided to try to evict the US Navy from the Pacific.  Good points all, I appreciate the insight. I was trying to think of a way to retool the question to ask more about what might have the biggest ratio between cost of attack and inflicted losses but I just kept imagining geese getting sucked into turbine engines and I think I need therapy now? If someone wanted to shut down an enemy airstrip should I parachute behind enemy lines with just like, a fuckton of stale bread? In theory?
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Apr 2, 2019 05:21
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The dudes that blew up the USS Cole probably spent about seventeen dollars on explosives and already owned the boat 
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Apr 2, 2019 05:27
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PHIZ KALIFA posted:
Well, in that case, The Russian's Asymmetric warfare used a room full of Russian college students to troll on Facebook and get a moron elected who has done trillions of dollars worth of damage to the economy, and could kill thousands of Americans through the loss of healthcare in the coming years. On the flip side, the US drops million dollar bombs on goats in the middle east like, every day. Also, Everybody talks about how cool the A-10 Warthog is, capable of firing 3,900 rounds per minute, but each of those rounds reportedly costs $136.70 each, sooooooo, that's gotta cost some money. Also, if you've ever wondered how many planes and helicopters the Army has(just the army, not even the airforce) https://i.imgur.com/3Hs2BLC.jpg This isn't really OSHA though, just depressing, maybe do get some therapy. Anywa, here's some truck fuckling   Also, here's a reminder that trucks want you dead, stay away from them, if you see a truck., run away.   
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Apr 2, 2019 06:02
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Hey buddy, retreads are totally safe.
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Apr 2, 2019 06:16
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PHIZ KALIFA posted:This might not be something that can be precisely measured, but outside of long-range missile bombardment or nuclear strike, what's the most expensive kind of warfare to field? Are you asking what the most expensive kind of weaponry to field is or the cheapest way to counter it / attack an opposing force? I'm terms of cost:damage you can't really beat something like 9/11. Asymetric warfare is a nightmare to counter. In terms of cost, firing a CWIZ probably costs somewhere around $45,000/second. A ground invasion, especially to hold territory, is always going to cost more than dropping a few thousand mark 83 bombs on someone. Moist von Lipwig fucked around with this message at 10:41 on Apr 2, 2019 |
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Apr 2, 2019 10:37
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Love to watch our military fire missiles worth $200k at Toyota pickups
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Apr 2, 2019 10:56
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PHIZ KALIFA posted:This might not be something that can be precisely measured, but outside of long-range missile bombardment or nuclear strike, what's the most expensive kind of warfare to field? Well, to stick with the torpedos examples, there is that story about dinky 100 mil subs taking out 7 billion dollar aircraft carriers. Efficacy doesn't really play a role in the modern U.S. defense industry. They have so much money and so little actual use for it that you end up throwing good money after bad because sensible development, procurement, and deployment would cost a lot less and that's the last thing anyone involved in sustaining the industry wants. Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 11:09 on Apr 2, 2019 |
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Apr 2, 2019 11:06
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Yep, a sub can be pretty hard to detect even when you know its out there. https://youtu.be/d8Kv4rqR6RQ
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Apr 2, 2019 12:50
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Keep in mind also that during exercises people are more likely to do things that would risk them getting killed in an actual war. Going for the carrier is a lot easier when the worst consequence is a "You Got Me!"
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Apr 2, 2019 13:02
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Taerkar posted:Keep in mind also that during exercises people are more likely to do things that would risk them getting killed in an actual war. Going for the carrier is a lot easier when the worst consequence is a "You Got Me!" Can you support this claim?
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Apr 2, 2019 13:09
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El_Elegante posted:Can you support this claim? A lot of people don't have a death wish, even on a submarine. Hard to believe, but true!
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Apr 2, 2019 13:16
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Let me clarify. What maneuver or technique is so dangerous that: -it can bring down a carrier in a war game -not be detected by the opposing force -be acceptable for a sub to do in a war game but not in combat
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El_Elegante posted:Let me clarify. What maneuver or technique is so dangerous that: Probably getting right up on a a carriers rear end and then launching all your torpedos in the middle of a pack of sub hunters.
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