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V. Illych L. posted:really nobody wants to lose scotland, even if the place is a party-political liability. it's another land border (and we've all seen how good the uk is at those) a reduced tax base, a diminished country and a demonstration that the foundation of the nation is falling apart Yeah and since its up to us to let them have another ref I think we just won't, no matter the outcome. And I think this goes for a tory or Labour gov
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Nuclear Spoon posted:got a reply back from Labour complaints about Hoey addressing fash on the 29th Interestingly I've not yet received a similar dismissal of my earlier complaint about her signal-boosting Brietbart News' "Oh look Christians are getting killed by Muslims why isn't the news going on about this" bullshit after Christchurch.
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Hentai Jihadist posted:Yeah and since its up to us to let them have another ref I think we just won't, no matter the outcome. tbh during the chaos of hard brexit I bet scotland could unilaterally secede and Westminster would be too busy deploying the forces to keep logistics running to stop them
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Apr 2, 2019 11:52
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Interestingly I've not yet received a similar dismissal of my earlier complaint about her signal-boosting Brietbart News' "Oh look Christians are getting killed by Muslims why isn't the news going on about this" bullshit after Christchurch. My guess is that despite the obvious and intrinsic connection between addressing that crowd, and fashiness, if they were to suspend someone for talking to people they don't like but not saying anything actively objectionable, that would set an extremely difficult precedent. Given that every MP talks to fashy pricks every day. In parliament.
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Apr 2, 2019 11:56
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Interestingly I've not yet received a similar dismissal of my earlier complaint about her signal-boosting Brietbart News' "Oh look Christians are getting killed by Muslims why isn't the news going on about this" bullshit after Christchurch. i get the feeling that labour HQ knows she sucks rear end and are still trying to find a way to boot her in a way they won't come under fire for
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Looking at BBC News site, Boles dropping the whip was nowhere to be seen until I searched for it. It's quite off the radar... is this surprising?
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Apr 2, 2019 11:58
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Tesseraction posted:tbh during the chaos of hard brexit I bet scotland could unilaterally secede and Westminster would be too busy deploying the forces to keep logistics running to stop them Historically the UK takes special care to be cruel to those it has power over and keep them under the thumb so I think we'd probably make it a priority above feeding people or functioning
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Apr 2, 2019 11:59
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labour hq instituting a hostile environment against their most shote mps is good, but also leads to them either actively sabotaging the party or becoming petulant shits about it - hoey could well become nega-corbyn, sitting like a tick on her constituency for decades yet
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Apr 2, 2019 11:59
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lidl fresh crusty rolls are top tier
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Apr 2, 2019 12:02
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Tesseraction posted:tbh during the chaos of hard brexit I bet scotland could unilaterally secede and Westminster would be too busy deploying the forces to keep logistics running to stop them Scotland would be cataclysmically hosed if they made a UDI. It is guaranteed that Spain would veto EU membership.
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Apr 2, 2019 12:02
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Jedit posted:Scotland would be cataclysmically hosed if they made a UDI. It is guaranteed that Spain would veto EU membership. I mean, everyone would be unilaterally hosed at that point
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Apr 2, 2019 12:03
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V. Illych L. posted:labour hq instituting a hostile environment against their most shote mps is good, but also leads to them either actively sabotaging the party or becoming petulant shits about it - hoey could well become nega-corbyn, sitting like a tick on her constituency for decades yet That seems highly unlikely given that her constituency is extremely remain and she is turbobrexit.
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Apr 2, 2019 12:03
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Should we just have a civil war so I can die but make it look like I was fighting and not giving up
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Tesseraction posted:tbh during the chaos of hard brexit I bet scotland could unilaterally secede and Westminster would be too busy deploying the forces to keep logistics running to stop them If you think May et al didn't learn from Spain's success smashing heads in Catalonia to international silence...
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OwlFancier posted:That seems highly unlikely given that her constituency is extremely remain and she is turbobrexit. true she could actually lose it to the lib dems lol
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Apr 2, 2019 12:05
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V. Illych L. posted:labour hq instituting a hostile environment against their most shote mps is good, but also leads to them either actively sabotaging the party or becoming petulant shits about it - hoey could well become nega-corbyn, sitting like a tick on her constituency for decades yet Like they're not doing that already
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Azza Bamboo posted:Should we just have a civil war so I can die but make it look like I was fighting and not giving up Whichever goon finds my tear streaked corpse can you pose me heroically
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V. Illych L. posted:true she could actually lose it to the lib dems lol If labour booted her she would lose it to a labour candidate next election.
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Jedit posted:Scotland would be cataclysmically hosed if they made a UDI. It is guaranteed that Spain would veto EU membership. Spain could be persuaded not to care. Scotland joining EU after UK leaves is very different to Catalonia trying to join whilst Spain is still in the EU.
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V. Illych L. posted:really nobody wants to lose scotland, even if the place is a party-political liability. it's another land border (and we've all seen how good the uk is at those) a reduced tax base, a diminished country and a demonstration that the foundation of the nation is falling apart I'm okay with balkanisation if it means we'll end up all homebrewing >40% fruit spirits like they do in the actual Balkans
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Apr 2, 2019 12:08
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More excellent news for disaster capitalists: https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status/1113033361373782021
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Renaissance Robot posted:I'm okay with balkanisation if it means we'll end up all homebrewing >40% fruit spirits like they do in the actual Balkans We will be making poitín from old newspapers.
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mehall posted:Spain could be persuaded not to care. As much as Jedit gon Jedit he's right this time: Spain is utterly terrified of any legal precedent that would undermine Catalan headsmashing, and they cite their 'Spain is indivisible' constitution for this. Spain would oppose UDI specifically, and only UDI, for this reason. Still don't think they'll recognise Kosovo, for the same reason. It's brutal and Francoist but it is consistent across the Spanish political spectrum
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Apr 2, 2019 12:11
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Ratjaculation posted:lidl fresh crusty rolls are top tier aldi do this sourdough loaf that's just divine
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V. Illych L. posted:true she could actually lose it to the lib dems lol She actually gained votes between 2015 and 2017, tbh the best way to oust her is to parachute Chuka in
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Good morning https://twitter.com/francesweetman/status/1113025647268519937?s=19
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I lived through this: (oops forgot to imgur the image!) Well, remember 8.8.8.8 and 1.1.1.1 for the future. However a tech-savvy government that wanted to could make that entirely redundant in seconds - the internet is surprisingly fragile against state actors with a death wish. Also to my knowledge the tattered remains of what was once Energis/Freeserve, lurking in a basement somewhere in Vodafone, are the only 0845 providers left in the UK with everyone just reselling them. A couple of ISPs do still offer a semi-decent dialup service for a paid subscription but even then they're going to be reliant of one of a *very* small number of companies to actually get data off this Septic Isle.
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Apr 2, 2019 12:16
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Rewriting history to remove tony blair would actually be really funny and we should definitely try it.
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Apr 2, 2019 12:17
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I have some very probateable things to say to you for posting this ughhhhhh
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Apr 2, 2019 12:17
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Tony Blair has been so thoroughly memory-holed by Premier Corbyn that he... appears non-stop in interviews chatting poo poo about his own party and how much better he was at politics
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Apr 2, 2019 12:20
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goddamnedtwisto posted:a tech-savvy government 
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Tesseraction posted:I have some very probateable things to say to you for posting this ughhhhhh  chilling E: she's an strange one actually, the replies to her posts are almost 99% the same group of melts nodding along with her, despite her 11k followers she gets very little pushback. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 12:23 on Apr 2, 2019 |
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Apr 2, 2019 12:21
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Well, remember 8.8.8.8 and 1.1.1.1 for the future. However a tech-savvy government that wanted to could make that entirely redundant in seconds - the internet is surprisingly fragile against state actors with a death wish. What's your view on Quad9? Too compromised?
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The politicians may not know poo poo, but the Civil Service definitely do. If Death Queen May screams at them to shut down the internet, they'll know exactly which numbers to call to make it happen.
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Tesseraction posted:I have some very probateable things to say to you for posting this ughhhhhh Can't believe Tess would try to silence TPaine's voice. Stalinism personified.
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Obliterati posted:As much as Jedit gon Jedit he's right this time: Spain is utterly terrified of any legal precedent that would undermine Catalan headsmashing, and they cite their 'Spain is indivisible' constitution for this. Spain would oppose UDI specifically, and only UDI, for this reason. Still don't think they'll recognise Kosovo, for the same reason. It's brutal and Francoist but it is consistent across the Spanish political spectrum Yeah, I'm not saying it about any form of Scottish independence. Spain have in fact said several times since 2014 that they'd accept the result of an official referendum - because of course they'll never give one to Catalonia. However, you should note that they didn't say this before the Scottish Indyref but only since the Catalans declared their own unofficial referendum. There is a part of me that suspects they only said it to neutralise the Catalan result, and that if Scotland had voted Yes they would still have blocked it to avoid any chance of later being pressured into giving the Catalans a referendum and creating a precedent. If that suspicion is correct, then I think they'd find a reason to say "things have changed" if Yes we're to win Indyref 2.
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Jeremy Hussein Hitler Stalin Corbyn and his cult of far-left turbo extreme communists have airbrushed out the beautiful image of Anthony Blair, a magnificent and wondergul man who people keep denigrating because he killed a bunch of people that don't really matter because they never had columns in the Guardian.
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Well you see in the early 2000s there was this government that just sort of... invaded Iraq. Nobody really knows why it happened. Who was in charge? Oh nobody.
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Brown Moses posted:More excellent news for disaster capitalists: doot-doo-dooo... 
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