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Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Jimmy4400nav posted:

Welp, its been 2 years since I commissioned and I haven't done anything UCMJ-able so now I'm a JG.

I still have no clue what I'm doing!

Dude, I can think of a shitload of things I could have been nailed for at that point.
Funny thing is, I was almost masted for something I didn't even do! SWO life, gently caress the world!

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Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


I once went around the line twice at the galley when it specifically said only once.
The ramifications of my actions still haunts me.

babyeatingpsychopath
Oct 28, 2000
Forum Veteran


LingcodKilla posted:

I once went around the line twice at the galley when it specifically said only once.
The ramifications of my actions still haunts me.

I took a shortcut through some cubes where a "NOT A PWAY" sign was posted. I see that sign in my nightmares every night.

Jimmy4400nav
Apr 1, 2011

Ambassador to Moonlandia

Ron Jeremy posted:

Are you even trying?


Stultus Maximus posted:

Dude, I can think of a shitload of things I could have been nailed for at that point.


LingcodKilla posted:

I once went around the line twice at the galley when it specifically said only once.
The ramifications of my actions still haunts me.

I mean...:magical: One time I went a month and a half without a haircut and I also use a non-reg grey backpack instead of a black one. Also, I got my aircrew some whiskey and cigars as a graduation gift (I got an older aircrew), wasn't sure if that was against the rules or not, but they were a cool crew of dudes.

Though, when I first started bringing cookies to the squadron, everyone was like "WTF is this? are these some pot-laced traps left by a contractor?". Took everyone a while to come around to those.

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

LingcodKilla posted:

I once went around the line twice at the galley when it specifically said only once.
The ramifications of my actions still haunts me.

:chiefsay:

US Berder Patrol
Jul 11, 2006

oorah

LingcodKilla posted:

I once went around the line twice at the galley when it specifically said only once.
The ramifications of my actions still haunts me.

I carried trash light bulbs across the hangar bay of the carrier without so much as a trashbag around them

lol. Lol if I had dropped one. Lolling into eternity.

CMD598
Apr 12, 2013

Ken Bone Comeback posted:

I carried trash light bulbs across the hangar bay of the carrier without so much as a trashbag around them

lol. Lol if I had dropped one. Lolling into eternity.

If you did have a trash bag it would have been worse.

TRASH IS NOT AUTHORIZED IN THE HANGAR BAY - conflag

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May
jesus you all are loving altar boys

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Stultus Maximus posted:

jesus you all are loving altar boys

Wow rude. I’ve never hosed an altar boy you sicko.

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


Stultus Maximus posted:

jesus you all are loving altar boys

As a First on staff, I was tagged with two Marines to be part of Shore Patrol in either Palermo or Palam. We were in civies and just wandered around making sure the Sailors and Marines weren't making too big of assholes of themselves. I cannot recall who broached the subject first, probably them since I was never one to intentionally go out of line, but I had a good evening of getting drunk with the command element Marines and doing next to nothing besides sitting at the outside bar observing. Highlight of the night was seeing the entire PHIBRON staff, Commodore and Deputy included, stumbling and bumbling around.

God that was long deployment and long ago now.

CMD598
Apr 12, 2013

Stultus Maximus posted:

jesus you all are loving altar boys

I say again TRASH IS NOT AUTHORIZED IN THE HANGAR BAY :shepface:

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
One time I spilled paint in a parking lot and we just made it go away with water. My career is a lie.

SquirrelyPSU
May 27, 2003


Wait what's the statute of limitations on being counselled

Mr. Bad Guy
Jun 28, 2006

AGGGGH BEES
Apr 28, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Mabye some of you know the answer to this. Why did the USN choose to replace the Oliver Hazard Perry class with the LCS, when the LCS cannot do anything the OHP can?

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


AGGGGH BEES posted:

Mabye some of you know the answer to this. Why did the USN choose to replace the Oliver Hazard Perry class with the LCS, when the LCS cannot do anything the OHP can?

MIC contractor money

Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene

AGGGGH BEES posted:

Mabye some of you know the answer to this. Why did the USN choose to replace the Oliver Hazard Perry class with the LCS, when the LCS cannot do anything the OHP can?

Why is existence pain if we were borne from a benevolent God?

AGGGGH BEES
Apr 28, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Nick Soapdish posted:

MIC contractor money

Now there's something worth having a Congressional investigation over. So many billions of dollars down the drain for a ship that can't float and can't fight. Meanwhile Taiwan, of all places, took a look at the LCS and made something that's not only better, but also a hell of a lot cheaper.

PneumonicBook
Sep 26, 2007

Do you like our owl?



Ultra Carp

AGGGGH BEES posted:

Now there's something worth having a Congressional investigation over. So many billions of dollars down the drain for a ship that can't float and can't fight. Meanwhile Taiwan, of all places, took a look at the LCS and made something that's not only better, but also a hell of a lot cheaper.

They absolutely float.

Dont worry, I'm sure the new FFGs will be a smashing success.

vuk83
Oct 9, 2012

AGGGGH BEES posted:

Mabye some of you know the answer to this. Why did the USN choose to replace the Oliver Hazard Perry class with the LCS, when the LCS cannot do anything the OHP can?

Lcs 47 knots, ohp 29ish

Jimmy4400nav
Apr 1, 2011

Ambassador to Moonlandia

AGGGGH BEES posted:

Mabye some of you know the answer to this. Why did the USN choose to replace the Oliver Hazard Perry class with the LCS, when the LCS cannot do anything the OHP can?

I did some research on this back when I was in college:

Wired has a pretty good article about this.

Basically, come to the end of the Cold War, the Navy thought that the future of a lot of operations going forward were going to be in a more asymmetric environment near the coastlines of the world. Since in those environments the threats of ships can be a lot more omnipresent and multifaceted (subs, planes, shore launched missiles, mines and more). Some thought the way forward was to design a big chungus of a destroyer that could take the hits and dish it out (the DD-21 concept), but a few people thought that making a massive fleet of those things would be expensive so they decided to go the other way. Enter Streetfighter, the idea was to design a small, nimble 1,000-ton ship that could be cheap to build, need a small crew and be deployable to the major waterways and areas we patrolled. The idea being that they could handle the duties the Navy did near the less navally capable nations, while the bigger, more expensive blue water ships (destroyer and cruisers) could focus more on their specialties.

What rusled a lot of jimmies, in the beginning, was that the LCS progenitor was more or less supposed to be an expendable ship. It was not supposed to be going against symmetric threats so its survivability if it actually got into a major naval brawl was 0. The designers wrote this off as okay since that's not what the ship was going to be used for (more for enforcing interdictions off the Iraq coast, doing anti-piracy, and limited shore support). The Pentagon though was horrified at what the American people would think if they made a bunch of ships that were designed to die in a straight up fight.

So the ships were expanded in size to improve capabilities and in theory improve survivability. This raised costs. In addition, at the time of the program's initiation, the fleet was in the process of trying to expand to have more ships and the LCS was seen as a good testbed for this, but this only lead to mission creep. As the ships got more expensive and larger, the Pentagon tried to justify the cost by implementing the infamous module system, the idea to make plug and play modules to give the ship more mission flexibility. Unfortunately, the modules and technology either hadn't been designed or if they were present, they just found that the LCS did most missions worse than the larger purpose-built warships.

To quote the Wired Article:

Wired posted:

The plan was, in a word, ambitious – which was not what Cebrowski and Hughes had in mind when they argued for the Navy to add smaller, simpler, cheaper ships. In the course of just four years, the Navy fought, embraced, and then completely corrupted the small-ship philosophy. Instead of compact, brute-simple coastal brawlers, it would get over-inflated, gas-guzzling, gutless ships dependent on ultrahigh-tech gizmos. Every degree of uncertainty regarding the basic LCS concept added another degree of complexity to the still-unbuilt robots and modules.

The funny thing is, the Tuo Chiang, that Taiwanese ship you mentioned, it's basically what the Streetfighter concept was designed to be, a small cheap coastal brawler and light support ship.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Jimmy4400nav posted:

The funny thing is, the Tuo Chiang, that Taiwanese ship you mentioned, it's basically what the Streetfighter concept was designed to be, a small cheap coastal brawler and light support ship.

Yeah, imagine a littoral combat ship that can actively prosecute shallow-water submerged targets with something other than an SH-60. What good is 40+ knots if you can't poo poo out Mk54s like no one's business?

King of Bees
Dec 28, 2012
Gravy Boat 2k
I did a deployment on Swift and the DC brief was get on the life raft and get away, anything an extinguisher can't put out will sink the ship. That fucker got smoked as soon as we gave it to Yemen. The hull is a bay ferry concept. I guess we ordered a bunch more.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

It's essentially what happened to the Comanche, too--feature creep.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


King of Bees posted:

I did a deployment on Swift and the DC brief was get on the life raft and get away, anything an extinguisher can't put out will sink the ship. That fucker got smoked as soon as we gave it to Yemen. The hull is a bay ferry concept. I guess we ordered a bunch more.

"As a logistics vessel, the ship does not have water-tight compartments or weapons systems."

yikes

Serjeant Buzfuz
Dec 5, 2009

LingcodKilla posted:

"As a logistics vessel, the ship does not have water-tight compartments or weapons systems."

yikes

LOL, why wouldn't a logi ship have water tight compartments ahhhhhhhhh


Anyways, I was onboard an unnamed CVN today and in their radio room doing some training on a SATCOM system for 6 or 7 ITs onboard. One of them stopped me to ask if we can see the radio waves coming out of the radomes out on the mast.

I stopped and stared at him for a few seconds, while I tried to figure out what he must really be asking because that probably had to be the stupidest question I've ever heard of in my life. This is when I assume that he must be pulling my leg, this is some kinda joke everyone is in on except me. So I answer back: "You're just loving with me...right?". He responds: "This guy I knew from A school said you can see the radio waves coming off of the antennas". The whole room died of laughter, holy loving poo poo. This dude was completely serious. How do you get through IT A school and put on IT3 and literally have no idea.

Cerekk
Sep 24, 2004

Oh my god, JC!

Madurai posted:

It's essentially what happened to the Comanche, too--feature creep.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXQ2lO3ieBA

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Lou Takki posted:

LOL, why wouldn't a logi ship have water tight compartments ahhhhhhhhh


Anyways, I was onboard an unnamed CVN today and in their radio room doing some training on a SATCOM system for 6 or 7 ITs onboard. One of them stopped me to ask if we can see the radio waves coming out of the radomes out on the mast.

I stopped and stared at him for a few seconds, while I tried to figure out what he must really be asking because that probably had to be the stupidest question I've ever heard of in my life. This is when I assume that he must be pulling my leg, this is some kinda joke everyone is in on except me. So I answer back: "You're just loving with me...right?". He responds: "This guy I knew from A school said you can see the radio waves coming off of the antennas". The whole room died of laughter, holy loving poo poo. This dude was completely serious. How do you get through IT A school and put on IT3 and literally have no idea.

All the drawings in the AT material show the waves duh

CMD598
Apr 12, 2013

PneumonicBook posted:

Dont worry, I'm sure the new FFGs will be a smashing success.

Before or after it feature creeps its way to a light carrier?

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


You know what I don't get, our NATO allies are really good at building small ships because that is most all of their navies are. Why not take like a Danish or German frigate, add a bit of our MIC bloat, and just call it a day.

Chuckle
Feb 9, 2013

Lou Takki posted:

LOL, why wouldn't a logi ship have water tight compartments ahhhhhhhhh


Anyways, I was onboard an unnamed CVN today and in their radio room doing some training on a SATCOM system for 6 or 7 ITs onboard. One of them stopped me to ask if we can see the radio waves coming out of the radomes out on the mast.

I stopped and stared at him for a few seconds, while I tried to figure out what he must really be asking because that probably had to be the stupidest question I've ever heard of in my life. This is when I assume that he must be pulling my leg, this is some kinda joke everyone is in on except me. So I answer back: "You're just loving with me...right?". He responds: "This guy I knew from A school said you can see the radio waves coming off of the antennas". The whole room died of laughter, holy loving poo poo. This dude was completely serious. How do you get through IT A school and put on IT3 and literally have no idea.

Sadly, with some of the IT's I've had working for me, this does not surprise me in the least.

PneumonicBook
Sep 26, 2007

Do you like our owl?



Ultra Carp

Nick Soapdish posted:

You know what I don't get, our NATO allies are really good at building small ships because that is most all of their navies are. Why not take like a Danish or German frigate, add a bit of our MIC bloat, and just call it a day.

Well that's the idea if the F-100 or the Fincantieri FFG win the bid.

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


PneumonicBook posted:

Well that's the idea if the F-100 or the Fincantieri FFG win the bid.

Yeah but those are Italian and Spanish ships, can't trust those swarthy devils

PneumonicBook
Sep 26, 2007

Do you like our owl?



Ultra Carp

Nick Soapdish posted:

Yeah but those are Italian and Spanish ships, can't trust those swarthy devils

Based on how FMM builds the Freedom class I don't disagree.

Real talk I wouldn't mind if the FMM Frigate was chosen. It fits everything the Navy wants for it and its a mature design. Let me tell you about how fun it is working on a hull that is constantly going through engineering changes and completely new systems every other hull.

Jimmy4400nav
Apr 1, 2011

Ambassador to Moonlandia

Accurate :(


PneumonicBook posted:

Well that's the idea if the F-100 or the Fincantieri FFG win the bid.

Based on how FMM builds the Freedom class I don't disagree.

Real talk I wouldn't mind if the FMM Frigate was chosen. It fits everything the Navy wants for it and its a mature design. Let me tell you about how fun it is working on a hull that is constantly going through engineering changes and completely new systems every other hull.

I'm partial to the FREMM frigate myself given their a relatively mature design and a number of our NATO allies already use them, though the F100's have the advantage of basically being mini-Burkes so we'd have less growing pains/adapting the ships to use Mk41's over Sylvers (and we'd be getting an Aegis platform to boot).

Admittedly we should have just bitten the bullet years ago and just make a solid frigate replacement for the OHP like we should have and then come up with an upgrade/replacement for the Cyclones to handle the closer inshore roles the LCS we supposed to be specialized for.

Ah well, I guess the only sensible thing to do now is reactivate the Iowas...

Jimmy4400nav fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Apr 3, 2019

vulturesrow
Sep 25, 2011

Always gotta pay it forward.
Why is there always a Navy dude?

https://www.news4jax.com/news/investigators-say-11-busted-in-georgia-child-sex-sting?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
Hey remember how I said my unit had another suicide?

https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2019/04/03/officials-sailor-killed-himself-the-day-before-his-child-porn-trial-kicked-off/

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



what was his username, i wonder?

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012




quote:

A Facebook eulogy points to his first Navy deployment to Okinawa in 2016, where his work “bolstered logistics support for multiple construction projects.”

It was also where prosecutors alleged that Whitmyre received, possessed and viewed child pornography.

“He embodied the Seabee motto ‘with compassion for others, we build — we fight, for peace with freedom,’” the post states. “He will be greatly missed by all that had the honor to serve with him.”

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Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

What an awkward situation for whoever had to write us eulogy

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