AAF Postmortem

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Ches Neckbeard: Dec 3, 2005; You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!

Evil billionaire doing evil billionaire things

https://twitter.com/TreyWallace_/status/1113463986782199808

# ? Apr 3, 2019 20:55

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# ? Jun 12, 2024 22:19

weird Asian candy: Aug 23, 2005; Ask me about how my football team's success determines my self worth, and how I wish I lived in New Orleans.

Man I feel so bad for these dudes

https://twitter.com/Runitback_Rob/status/1113529540830068736?s=19

# ? Apr 3, 2019 21:19

Play: Apr 25, 2006; Strong stroll for a mangy stray

Of course the workers end up holding the bag and no accommodation will be made for their benefit, to the point of forcing them to pay for their own travel to get home. A tale as old as time

# ? Apr 3, 2019 21:33

Amy Pole Her: Jun 17, 2002

Miami�s signing some QB from the Iron so he�s got a job but yeah, this new AAF dude really hosed over a ton of people

# ? Apr 3, 2019 21:37

midwat: May 6, 2007

It sucks because it seemed like the AAF was doing a lot right, from the (tacit) encouragement of the NFL, to having a broadcast deal, to incorporating new wrinkles like the Sky Judge. If a minor league was going to make it, it seemed like this would be the one.

I also think it's supremely weird to pull the plug after (not even) one season. It takes a while to build a fandom, but none of these leagues seem to budget for even one whole campaign.

# ? Apr 3, 2019 23:18

wandler20: Nov 13, 2002; How many Championships?

Amy Pole Her posted:

Miami�s signing some QB from the Iron so he�s got a job but yeah, this new AAF dude really hosed over a ton of people

Perez?

# ? Apr 3, 2019 23:31

dirty shrimp money: Jan 8, 2001

Made-up football championships in leagues with no sanctioned winners is officially an Orlando tradition -

https://twitter.com/FDSportsbook/status/1113550992644112384

# ? Apr 3, 2019 23:46

wandler20: Nov 13, 2002; How many Championships?

Apollos bitch!

# ? Apr 3, 2019 23:47

Dre2Dee2: Dec 6, 2006; Just a striding through Kamen Rider...

How many of us spent any money on anything related to the AAF

I bet this whole thread doesnt add up to more than 200 bucks lol

# ? Apr 4, 2019 00:01

weird Asian candy: Aug 23, 2005; Ask me about how my football team's success determines my self worth, and how I wish I lived in New Orleans.

I thought long and hard about buying tickets like...twice...almost did it too!

# ? Apr 4, 2019 00:03

Athanatos: Jun 7, 2006; Est. 2000

Dre2Dee2 posted:

How many of us spent any money on anything related to the AAF

I bet this whole thread doesnt add up to more than 200 bucks lol

How much are season tickets? Ross got us a bit of the way to 200 at least.

# ? Apr 4, 2019 00:07

Darude - Adam Sandstorm: Aug 16, 2012

Dre2Dee2 posted:

4 weeks ago: 250 million is enough to last us for YEARS!

Today: 750 million would be a decent start

Seriously, gently caress that guy

lol no that interview was in January

# ? Apr 4, 2019 00:08

a neat cape: Feb 22, 2007; Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

Athanatos posted:

How much are season tickets? Ross got us a bit of the way to 200 at least.

75 bucks.

I also bought a hoodie and a hat with the fleet logo

# ? Apr 4, 2019 00:24

Play: Apr 25, 2006; Strong stroll for a mangy stray

I'm thinking of picking up some gear. Ironically now that the whole thing has collapsed the swag actually has more value for me as like a weird niche "I was there" thing

# ? Apr 4, 2019 00:36

Jubs: Jul 11, 2006; Boy, I think it's about time I tell you the difference between a man and a woman. A woman isn't a woman unless she's pretty. And a man isn't a man unless he's ugly.

Play posted:

I'm thinking of picking up some gear. Ironically now that the whole thing has collapsed the swag actually has more value for me as like a weird niche "I was there" thing

Hipster

# ? Apr 4, 2019 00:41

Play: Apr 25, 2006; Strong stroll for a mangy stray

Jubs posted:

Hipster

HotShotster actually

# ? Apr 4, 2019 00:42

pasaluki: Feb 27, 2008; THIS WHAGON HAS NO BREAKS! I HAVE THE HEART OF THE BUUFALO the strength OF THE MOUNTAIN, THE FURY OF THE THUNDER AND MY WILL IS UNBREAKABLE! I will not surrender to KNOW ONE

Play posted:

I'm thinking of picking up some gear. Ironically now that the whole thing has collapsed the swag actually has more value for me as like a weird niche "I was there" thing

Yeah me too.

The AAF was actually pretty good. The players you could tell cared and played hard and crew/technicians/workers seemed cool, the coaches were awesome and the presentation was good. It wasn't a loving joke like the UFL was.
What's sad is probably 3-5 people at the top were greedy assholes and that was all it took to just gently caress everything...

# ? Apr 4, 2019 00:48

Pakled: Aug 6, 2011; WE ARE SMART

I really liked the style of play in the AAF and I hope that the NFL steals the idea of the sky judge and micing up replay officials.

# ? Apr 4, 2019 01:05

Play: Apr 25, 2006; Strong stroll for a mangy stray

pasaluki posted:

Yeah me too.

The AAF was actually pretty good. The players you could tell cared and played hard and crew/technicians/workers seemed cool, the coaches were awesome and the presentation was good. It wasn't a loving joke like the UFL was.
What's sad is probably 3-5 people at the top were greedy assholes and that was all it took to just gently caress everything...

Exactly, it WAS good! I really enjoyed the football I saw. And I was absolutely prepared to be a lifetime fan and even to pay money to the league; like if they had all their games streaming like GamePass I absolutely would've paid like 60 bucks for the season

# ? Apr 4, 2019 01:06

sharknado slashfic: Jun 24, 2011

wandler20 posted:

Apollos bitch!

# ? Apr 4, 2019 01:08

Gonz: Dec 22, 2009; "Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"

The Apollos are pretenders who were exposed, dramatically, by the Shots.

# ? Apr 4, 2019 01:10

syzpid: Aug 9, 2014

Maybe someone can explain to me how Topps already has a Johnny Manziel Memphis Express card?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-Topps...sMAAOSwRXNcmFk7

# ? Apr 4, 2019 01:12

Play: Apr 25, 2006; Strong stroll for a mangy stray

syzpid posted:

Maybe someone can explain to me how Topps already has a Johnny Manziel Memphis Express card?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-Topps...sMAAOSwRXNcmFk7

They saw their opportunity and went for it, is my guess

# ? Apr 4, 2019 01:13

Jubs: Jul 11, 2006; Boy, I think it's about time I tell you the difference between a man and a woman. A woman isn't a woman unless she's pretty. And a man isn't a man unless he's ugly.

syzpid posted:

Maybe someone can explain to me how Topps already has a Johnny Manziel Memphis Express card?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-Topps...sMAAOSwRXNcmFk7

Topps Now

# ? Apr 4, 2019 01:15

Dre2Dee2: Dec 6, 2006; Just a striding through Kamen Rider...

syzpid posted:

Maybe someone can explain to me how Topps already has a Johnny Manziel Memphis Express card?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-Topps...sMAAOSwRXNcmFk7

Lol not even a game day shot. What the gently caress is possibly on the back?

"Manziel began his AAF career on a Sunday, and by Saturday it was over."

# ? Apr 4, 2019 01:26

Roasted Donut: Aug 24, 2007; NWA WHITE POWERRR!!!!

pasaluki posted:

Yeah me too.

The AAF was actually pretty good. The players you could tell cared and played hard and crew/technicians/workers seemed cool, the coaches were awesome and the presentation was good. It wasn't a loving joke like the UFL was.
What's sad is probably 3-5 people at the top were greedy assholes and that was all it took to just gently caress everything...

I had a lot more fun watching the AAF this year than I did the NFL the last probably 5 years lol. this loving sucks

# ? Apr 4, 2019 01:26

Elephanthead: Sep 11, 2008; Toilet Rascal

Can I still buy hats of all these teams? Can I buy all these teams?

# ? Apr 4, 2019 01:35

Jubs: Jul 11, 2006; Boy, I think it's about time I tell you the difference between a man and a woman. A woman isn't a woman unless she's pretty. And a man isn't a man unless he's ugly.

Dre2Dee2 posted:

Lol not even a game day shot. What the gently caress is possibly on the back?

"Manziel began his AAF career on a Sunday, and by Saturday it was over."

# ? Apr 4, 2019 01:40

hifi: Jul 25, 2012

Dre2Dee2 posted:

Lol not even a game day shot. What the gently caress is possibly on the back?

"Manziel began his AAF career on a Sunday, and by Saturday it was over."

# ? Apr 4, 2019 01:40

hifi: Jul 25, 2012

those things are insane. you're basically buying a tweet on an index card

# ? Apr 4, 2019 01:41

Jubs: Jul 11, 2006; Boy, I think it's about time I tell you the difference between a man and a woman. A woman isn't a woman unless she's pretty. And a man isn't a man unless he's ugly.

736 lucky individuals own this:

# ? Apr 4, 2019 01:42

Spaced God: Feb 8, 2014; All torment, trouble, wonder and amazement
Inhabits here: some heavenly power guide us
Out of this fearful country!

Shaan Washington, the best player from Texas A&M to play in the AAF

# ? Apr 4, 2019 02:02

Quiet Feet: Dec 14, 2009; THE HELL IS WITH THIS ASS!?

If there's one positive from this it's that maybe the wandering spirit of Mike Bercovici can finally rest.

# ? Apr 4, 2019 02:37

GD_American: Jul 21, 2004; LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!

Dre2Dee2 posted:

How many of us spent any money on anything related to the AAF

I bet this whole thread doesnt add up to more than 200 bucks lol

Tickets- $40
Starter jacket- $160
Trent Richardson jersey- mumblemumble

# ? Apr 4, 2019 03:16

Amy Pole Her: Jun 17, 2002

$20 on Apollo hat

# ? Apr 4, 2019 03:26

Darude - Adam Sandstorm: Aug 16, 2012

pasaluki posted:

Yeah me too.

The AAF was actually pretty good. The players you could tell cared and played hard and crew/technicians/workers seemed cool, the coaches were awesome and the presentation was good. It wasn't a loving joke like the UFL was.
What's sad is probably 3-5 people at the top were greedy assholes and that was all it took to just gently caress everything...

The league was set up to fail.

The CFL for example, has league revenues of somewhere around 200 million cdn and pays in the neighbourhood of 50 million cdn in player salaries. This is a league where the best teams make like 5-10 million in profit and some are losing a similar amount. They are probably as a league turning a profit of like 20 million bucks.

This is with a 40 million dollar a year tv deal plus whatever they get from ESPN, attendance way above what the AAF could expect at ticket prices triple or quadruple what those teams were asking. Plus real sponsorships from large corporations.

The AAF had a salary structure for players roughly equivalent to the average salary in the CFL, and was probably paying coaching staffs something similar to what CFL coaches make. But they wanted to play half the number of games (so less ticket revenue/tv revenue) and rely on what exactly? I highly doubt the cbs/nfl network/tnt deal was worth anything close to making up the difference. They knew they were short on cash before they even started and the plan to have some loving app save them was nuts from the get go.

# ? Apr 4, 2019 03:34

weird Asian candy: Aug 23, 2005; Ask me about how my football team's success determines my self worth, and how I wish I lived in New Orleans.

https://twitter.com/ohrnberger/status/1113615638323294208?s=19

# ? Apr 4, 2019 03:51

Ches Neckbeard: Dec 3, 2005; You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!

Dundon probably wont get the app he supposedly wanted

quote:

It�s not clear, however, whether Dundon�s investment in AAF contemplates AAF technologies. As reported by Ad Age last September, MGM Resorts International entered into a contract with AAF to develop sports betting technologies. The contract would indicate whether MGM Resorts owns the intellectual property and licenses it to AAF, or vice-versa. If MGM Resorts owns the related intellectual property, Dundon might not own the AAF app or its data.

Even if we assume that Dundon became the owner of the AAF gambling app, he may be barred from shutting down the league simply because he obtained the app and doesn�t want the league. For one, he owes fiduciary duties to other investors in AAF. Those duties include a duty to act in good faith, a duty of care and a duty of loyalty. Other investors could potentially sue him for breaching those duties. They would need to find evidence that Dundon looked out for his own interests at their�and the AAF�s�expense.

Similarly, if Dundon agreed to certain obligations and duties in his contract to purchase part of the AAF, other investors could contend that Dundon breached those obligations and duties. They could also argue that he unjustly enriched himself and willfully mispresented his intentions to the point of committing commercial fraud.

Pro read: https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/04/02/alliance-american-football-league-suspension-legal-implications-fallout

# ? Apr 4, 2019 04:50

Gonz: Dec 22, 2009; "Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"

Tom Dundon�s door prize: Nautical Entombment

# ? Apr 4, 2019 04:53

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# ? Jun 12, 2024 22:19

Big Beef City: Aug 15, 2013

weird Asian candy posted:

https://twitter.com/ohrnberger/status/1113615638323294208?s=19

Jesus Christ that's cold blooded.

What an absolute dick move on every level this was. If this guy really turns out to have flipped to Vince, that's just...incredible on top of everything else.
Also those AAF cards will probably be worth $$$ on Antiques Roadshow in 2100 or so, so stock up now!

# ? Apr 4, 2019 04:56

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