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Issy posted:Late, but I love Doomsday Clock and Shazam. Johns can do no wrong. Hal Jordan. Barry Allen.
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X-O posted:Hal Jordan. ♥
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With DC universe vastly expanding their comic selection is there any pre Crisis on Infinite Earths Flash stories that are must reads? I want to understand what wonderful era we needed to return to, justifying completely making GBS threads on Wally West's character growth.
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Skwirl posted:With DC universe vastly expanding their comic selection is there any pre Crisis on Infinite Earths Flash stories that are must reads? I want to understand what wonderful era we needed to return to, justifying completely making GBS threads on Wally West's character growth. Cary Bates, Gardner Fox, John Broome and Robert Kanigher's Flash runs are really good. Issy fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Apr 3, 2019 |
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Apr 3, 2019 22:02
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Issy posted:Johns can do no wrong. 
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Apr 3, 2019 22:22
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Issy posted:?????? Friend, let me introduce you to Geoff Johns' run on Avengers.
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Apr 3, 2019 22:22
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Endless Mike posted:Friend, let me introduce you to Geoff Johns' run on Avengers. "Ha ha I'll do a callback to Hank hitting Jan but psych it's just sex stuff."
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Apr 3, 2019 22:24
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Endless Mike posted:Friend, let me introduce you to Geoff Johns' run on Avengers. I know that. AXIS, Shadowland, and Age of Ultron are way worse tho.
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Apr 3, 2019 22:27
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Dawgstar posted:"Ha ha I'll do a callback to Hank hitting Jan but psych it's just sex stuff." IC is.. Y I K E S
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Apr 3, 2019 22:30
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So wait have the goalposts moved from "Geoff Johns can do no wrong" to "comics that are worse than some Geoff Johns comics exist" because that's a pretty wide gulf.
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Edge & Christian posted:So wait have the goalposts moved from "Geoff Johns can do no wrong" to "comics that are worse than some Geoff Johns comics exist" because that's a pretty wide gulf. I use logical fallacies because I am not up to your standards. There okay.
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Skwirl posted:With DC universe vastly expanding their comic selection is there any pre Crisis on Infinite Earths Flash stories that are must reads? I want to understand what wonderful era we needed to return to, justifying completely making GBS threads on Wally West's character growth. Not really. They don't age well unless you're just really into Silver Age stuff in the first place. The more "modern" stories like Death of Iris and Trial of The Flash are awful slogs.
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Apr 3, 2019 23:20
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Morrison's The Green Lantern is still pulling deep cuts from the Silver Age. There's definitely this wild sense of wonder that was part of that era, but it also took some of its weird idiosyncrasies where while one half is crazy and amazing and out there, the other half is empty and without much explanation or grounding. If you printed Morrison's The Green Lantern on newsprint and in CMYK, it'd be nearly indistinguishable from any story published then.
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Apr 4, 2019 04:36
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So three jokers still a thing, or it all sidelined after Metal?
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Apr 4, 2019 05:47
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Cassa posted:So three jokers still a thing, or it all sidelined after Metal? A three part series starting some time this year, after Fabok's drawn enough of it to ensure the release schedule doesn't doomsday clock it up.
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Apr 4, 2019 06:07
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Con we forbid Tom King from writing anything but Batman?
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Siegkrow posted:Con we forbid Tom King from writing anything but Mister Miracle and Vision?
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Apr 4, 2019 22:47
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Issy posted:Con we forbid Tom King from writing anything but Mister Miracle
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I thought Vision was great.
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I have really enjoyed the first four issues of Young Justice. As I figured Bendis is a much better fit on this than he is on Superman. That being said, while I really really want to let this go he's definitely going to have to explain how Tim suddenly remembers who Conner is. I mean he could have already just thrown in a small scene like with Barry and Wally in Rebirth and that would have been the end of it. But it's gonna bother the poo poo out of me if suddenly Tim remembers everything and there's no explanation for it.
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X-O posted:I have really enjoyed the first four issues of Young Justice. As I figured Bendis is a much better fit on this than he is on Superman. That being said, while I really really want to let this go he's definitely going to have to explain how Tim suddenly remembers who Conner is. I mean he could have already just thrown in a small scene like with Barry and Wally in Rebirth and that would have been the end of it. But it's gonna bother the poo poo out of me if suddenly Tim remembers everything and there's no explanation for it. In the last arc of the recent Detective Comics run that I can't remember who wrote it, Evil Future Tim shows pre-New-52 timelines to Tim, Spoiler, and Cassie figuring that it will break them (it doesn't).
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Apr 5, 2019 00:13
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Tomasi is writing Detective Comics currently.
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X-O posted:I have really enjoyed the first four issues of Young Justice. As I figured Bendis is a much better fit on this than he is on Superman. That being said, while I really really want to let this go he's definitely going to have to explain how Tim suddenly remembers who Conner is. I mean he could have already just thrown in a small scene like with Barry and Wally in Rebirth and that would have been the end of it. But it's gonna bother the poo poo out of me if suddenly Tim remembers everything and there's no explanation for it. Bendis is doing a slow build from that stand point. Sometimes when Bendis does that, it's good. Other times... yeah. He's really inconsistent, and I still kinda love Bendis.
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Issy posted:Tomasi is writing Detective Comics currently. But it was James Tynion IV back then.
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Teenage Fansub posted:But it was James Tynion IV back then. Yeah, I know.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:In the last arc of the recent Detective Comics run that I can't remember who wrote it, Evil Future Tim shows pre-New-52 timelines to Tim, Spoiler, and Cassie figuring that it will break them (it doesn't). Yes he mentioned the name to Tim but Tim didn’t know that was. And after that storyline was over he asked Bruce about it because he didn’t know who’s name that was only that he knew it meant something.
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X-O posted:Yes he mentioned the name to Tim but Tim didn’t know that was. And after that storyline was over he asked Bruce about it because he didn’t know who’s name that was only that he knew it meant something. I'm pretty sure Spoiler kept all the information about the old continuity, and she and Tim went off together to go look it over.
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Or, and I think this is the more likely explanation, Bendis has never really given a poo poo about making sure his stories respect continuity
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Or, and I think this is the more likely explanation, Bendis has never really given a poo poo about making sure his stories respect continuity Well, I guess Doc Samson came back from the dead in Civil War II without much of an explanation? Oh and he totally ignored Chemistro's redemption arc from a Dwayne McDuffie fill-in circa 1989 in order to drop him into the Hood's gang. And then there's I'm not sure why Bendis has a reputation for this any more than I dunno, Mark Millar or Geoff Johns or Scott Snyder or Grant Morrison or Jeph Loeb or Dan Slott or more or less anyone who isn't named Roy Thomas or Mark Gruenwald. Or maybe Kurt Busiek? Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Apr 5, 2019 |
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Edge & Christian posted:Well, I guess Doc Samson came back from the dead in Civil War II without much of an explanation? Al Ewing just filled in that blank in Immortal Hulk.
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Edge & Christian posted:Exactly, it's why it's so easy to pull up glaring examples of this like I think Bendis has the rep mostly on the back of him not even keeping up closely with continuity he himself wrote in the Ultimate line.
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X-O posted:I think Bendis has the rep mostly on the back of him not even keeping up closely with continuity he himself wrote in the Ultimate line.
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I mean there's the Ultimate Origins thing trying to pick that up and there's several things in the mini that clash with other Ultimate stories. I'd have to go back over for specific examples but he plays real fast and lose with the passage of time in regards to Peter's age and other events in the Ultimate Universe. There's also that time when Daredevil died and Peter knelt over and unmasked him and didn't know who he was even though Peter figured out who Daredevil was well before that when Matt Murdock came to visit him one time.
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People also didn’t like Bendis having Bucky claim he killed Hitler.
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Open Marriage Night posted:People also didn’t like Bendis having Bucky claim he killed Hitler. That one is still so strange to me that he and his editor didn’t know.. Jim Hammond burning Hitler to death in order to stop an explosion being triggered by a “flameproof button” should be on a giant poster in Marvel offices 
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Open Marriage Night posted:People also didn’t like Bendis having Bucky claim he killed Hitler. Just say that one was an early LMD or something. Hitler was also running around in early Fantastic Four being the Hatemonger (though that was only heavily implied, I don't think it was ever made official canon).
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It’s because Bendis was writing their top selling book, and the idea that the Winter Soldier killing Hitler is bad as gently caress. The Golden Age Human Torch was such a non entity it didn’t really matter.
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Edge & Christian posted:I'm not sure why Bendis has a reputation for this any more than I dunno, Mark Millar or Geoff Johns or Scott Snyder or Grant Morrison or Jeph Loeb or Dan Slott or more or less anyone who isn't named Roy Thomas or Mark Gruenwald. Or maybe Kurt Busiek? Here's why. I think it's a pretty interesting article about the Bendis hate. https://www.youdontreadcomics.com/articles/2018/4/17/bendis-is-coming-an-exclamation-or-a-warning When Bendis is good, he's amazing. When he isn't, his lows stand out more than Johns, Morrison, and Scott imho. Peak Bendis is probably my favorite modern writer outside of Morrison and Hickman.
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What hit me in YJ was everyone recognizing Connor but Cassie not remembering he was her first love, sex, whatever. I suppose if this is New 52 Cassie it's a different beast, but then what do they remember about THAT Superboy?
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