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Pastry of the Year posted:dare I ask Force, as in they're a force to be reckoned with. Fem as in they're all women in charge. And Fetishist as in that guy is totally jacking it to powerful women.
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:The game wasn't made by the same people who did the localization and chose that title. I did a cursory Google translate of the original title and it gave me back "Women's Shrine" which is also probably not a good title for a game that ends with you having a threesome with two guys It’s 女装 which means female clothing. Gets used when chatting about men to refer to crossdressing obviously.
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Pastry of the Year posted:dare I ask Some guys just really like the idea of other guys' getting turned into girls, and because  acting like stereotypical tittering teenage girls. A lot of them also like the idea of these unwilling trans people then getting pregnant and bearing children. It is really creepy.Running into stuff like this when I was a teen unfortunately probably colored my perception of Trans people later (I had no idea transitioning was a thing back then).
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vkeios posted:It’s 女装 which means female clothing. Gets used when chatting about men to refer to crossdressing obviously. Crossdressing Shrine might have been a "better" title, but since people in the VN community generally don't seem to consider "trap" a slur that's probably why they went with that.
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Apr 4, 2019 11:14
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AG3 posted:Crossdressing Shrine might have been a "better" title, but since people in the VN community generally don't seem to consider "trap" a slur that's probably why they went with that. Uhhh, I don't think anyone considers "Crossdressing" a slur, though? Also at least a subsection of people the VN community absolutely do consider it a slur, The Royal Trap was renamed to Confines of the Crown after it was pointed out that the title could be read as a transphobic description of one of the characters.
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Taciturn Tactician posted:Uhhh, I don't think anyone considers "Crossdressing" a slur, though? Taciturn Tactician posted:Also at least a subsection of people the VN community absolutely do consider it a slur, The Royal Trap was renamed to Confines of the Crown after it was pointed out that the title could be read as a transphobic description of one of the characters. Yes, but the main difference between Confines of the Crown and Trap Shrine is that the latter has porn, and is pretty much centered around the porn, and then you're entering a very different subset of the VN community. Not to mention that Confines of the Crown is made by Hanako, while Trap Shrine is made by a Japanese developer who has made exclusively titles that are about crossdressing sex. *Edit* I should probably not have used the term "VN community" in my last post because I was mostly referring to the crowd that hangs out at the VNDB forums, and oh boy are there some people there who are very angry about "SJWs" and feminists. The moderators and admins are pretty decent folks, but the moderation is lax and some of the discussions in there make me back away from the screen when I read them. AG3 fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Apr 4, 2019 |
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Ashsaber posted:Some guys just really like the idea of other guys' getting turned into girls, and because There’s a number of Japanese pornos where a dude gets turned into a hot girl and gangbanged by all his friends. Probably they are (like the time stop world pornos) more of a fad than a genre and are produced by the same company. I’ve seen other ones where the guys all get turned into girls and go lesbian on each other. There’s a lot of crazy stories in Japanese porn.
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Be Depressive posted:There’s a number of Japanese pornos where a dude gets turned into a hot girl and gangbanged by all his friends. Probably they are (like the time stop world pornos) more of a fad than a genre and are produced by the same company. I’ve seen other ones where the guys all get turned into girls and go lesbian on each other. There’s a lot of crazy stories in Japanese porn. 
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Kanfy posted:This discussion reminded me of the ancient Polish adventure game A.D. 2044 which I haven't played but the premise is quite something: Apparently it’s based on an old Polish movie, which is satire.
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Erik Salvia is right, porn has the best comments.
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I'm sure this isn't a new observation, but a lot of these fetishes seem to be rearticulations of really hosed up gender beliefs and power issues.
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Discendo Vox posted:I'm sure this isn't a new observation, but a lot of these fetishes seem to be rearticulations of really hosed up gender beliefs and power issues. I mean, sure, but it doesn't necessarily mean that a person with those fetishes believes wholeheartedly in alignment with those hosed up gender beliefs and power issues. What people think is sexy can have wildly different causes and correlations; one person might think the force-fem thing (I think the more common term is "slutification," but I might be wrong about that, because as I clearly want to make sure everyone knows it's not my wheelhouse) is hot because they've built their personal identity around fighting against traditional masculinity, another might be a weird misogynist who gets off on the transgressive nature of a glorious MAN becoming a WOMAN< if you can believe such a thing, and a third might used to have been a misogynist but is trying to change, but somehow their old beliefs got tangled up with their sex drives and they're really embarrassed about it, but it's hard to change what gets you off. Sex weirds are born for as many reasons as there are people. I know someone who's into the BDSM scene, submissive, because she faced moderate physical abuse as a young'un, and if you're of an excessively literal mindset you might not comprehend how this could result in a fetish for being involved in similar scenarios, but if you're knowledgeable about these sorts of things you will not be surprised in the slightest. And gender roles are especially susceptible to getting tied up with sex stuff, because the great majority of people use what gender/sex people as a major part of their sexual identity.
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I know at least one or two people who had a real thing for men being transformed into women, and surprisingly enough they ended up coming out as a trans woman. These things are all over the place. And don't think it's exclusive to men in the slightest, Naked Butler is still on Steam isn't it?
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John Lee posted:I mean, sure, but it doesn't necessarily mean that a person with those fetishes believes wholeheartedly in alignment with those hosed up gender beliefs and power issues. What people think is sexy can have wildly different causes and correlations; one person might think the force-fem thing (I think the more common term is "slutification," but I might be wrong about that, because as I clearly want to make sure everyone knows it's not my wheelhouse) is hot because they've built their personal identity around fighting against traditional masculinity, another might be a weird misogynist who gets off on the transgressive nature of a glorious MAN becoming a WOMAN< if you can believe such a thing, and a third might used to have been a misogynist but is trying to change, but somehow their old beliefs got tangled up with their sex drives and they're really embarrassed about it, but it's hard to change what gets you off. Sex weirds are born for as many reasons as there are people. I certainly understand and agree, I'm just thinking about this in the context of Gamer Culture.
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Now explain the monstergirl fetish  Asking for a friend.And myself 
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People have been combining humans and animals in art since time began
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FirstAidKite posted:People have been combining humans and animals in art since time began Behold, the cavemen fursona figurines: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion-man
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A shitload of monster girl concepts are just more openly pornographic versions of ancient myths of sexy monsters that kill/eat/kidnap you.
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C.M. Kruger posted:Behold, the cavemen fursona figurines: quote:Seven parallel, transverse, carved gouges are on the left arm. oh my god ug's fursona even had special markings that only he has copyright do not club and take
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Ghost Leviathan posted:A shitload of monster girl concepts are just more openly pornographic versions of ancient myths of sexy monsters that kill/eat/kidnap you. And then there's stuff like monster girl encyclopedia where iirc the whole idea is that one of the monsters was like "hey guys instead of just killing humans and feasting on their blood, why don't we turn into monster girls and feast on their semen so that we never have to worry about running out of food" and so every dungeons & dragons monster ever became an anime girl. So basically yeah it all just comes down to "what if this thing was human enough to gently caress me silly"
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Apr 5, 2019 09:22
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the modern invention was the "human enough" part
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Zetsubou-san posted:the modern invention was the "human enough" part Even that's debatable!
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I mean the old gods used to turn into animals and gently caress people all the time and somehow I can't stop laughing about the idea of a religion based on ancient Egyptian fursonas.
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Discendo Vox posted:I'm sure this isn't a new observation, but a lot of these fetishes seem to be rearticulations of really hosed up gender beliefs and power issues. 98% of fetishes are about power imbalances. The remaining 2% are about actual physical sensations.
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They're also often about breaking taboos, so it's pretty likely that gender and power issues which grow increasingly less socially acceptable will simultaneously grow increasingly prevalent on the fetish front.
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At least Scandinavian mythology has a fair few examples of hot girls who are actually monsters, the skogsrå being a prime example. They're often depicted as looking like cute seductive girls when viewed from the front, but having a back like a hollowed out tree, or a tail, or other monstrous poo poo. I don't know if there are any skogsrå fetish games though, but uh, probably? 
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Temptress monsters are in every mythology. Though usually it's not being a monster that's the sexy part
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I have no doubt in my mind that there were iron age farmers jerkin' it while imagining being seduced by cow-tailed forest monster girls though
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CommissarMega posted:Now explain the monstergirl fetish I mean, the variety of monstergirls that I assume exist allow you to cover pretty much any fetish with it, from standard aggressive-sexual-partner stuff to bizarre poo poo like a wasp-girl laying eggs in your body. And they're usually presented in such a way that if you're not into the current scenario, you can just move to the next one fairly easily. You can also easily cover stuff like dubious-consent with a shrugging justifaction that, hey, they're monsters. A large part of it is probably this: Somfin posted:The remaining 2% are about actual physical sensations. I mean, I'd have sex with intelligent liquid. God knows if I'd end up enjoying it, but it's such an unusual scenario that sure, I'll give it a spin and see how it goes, since in this hypothetical I have an opportunity to have a literally impossible pysical experience. I find the focus on scenarios that could never actually occur in the real world fascinating; like, there surely must be people who have a skogsra fetish and can ONLY get off to skogsra porn, which is pretty limiting in a way that a foot fetish or a taste for BDSM isn't. You're just never going to find a skogsra, end of story, and I imagine that would end up with some interesting psychology.
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John Lee posted:I mean, I'd have sex with intelligent liquid. Pretty solid thread title.
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Kanfy posted:This discussion reminded me of the ancient Polish adventure game A.D. 2044 which I haven't played but the premise is quite something: That game's basically a ripoff of Seksmisja, an 80s polish comedy in which two dudes get frozen and wake up in 2044 in a totalitarian society lead by women and at some point they're sentenced to "naturalization" which is exactly the same thing. At the end the leader of women turns out to be secretly a man the whole time!! I'm calling it a ripoff because I couldn't find anything about an official connection and we didn't actually have copyright laws in 1991
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A game called Punch Line got posted in the deals thread, which led me to check out the metacritic which has a single very thorough user review: https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/punch-linequote:You basically start out as a ghost that has been kicked out of your body for reasons you'll find out later. You spend the first half of the game leveling up your astral powers by playing tricks on the girls in the house, while trying to avoid their panties. Panties are bad for you, since that ends humanity. Thankfully, the reason for panties ending humanity is based in some reason, so it's not completely nonsensical. (It was a 4/10)
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Randallteal posted:A game called Punch Line got posted in the deals thread, which led me to check out the metacritic which has a single very thorough user review: https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/punch-line oh my god So, a good while back, I kept seeing ads for some dumb-rear end looking show called PUNCH LINE. Description was something like "If he sees panties, the world ends!?" Naturally, I rolled my eyes and ignored it for like a year... but then I was reading about an anime/weeb poo poo author I especially like, Kotaro Uchikoshi, and apparently he wrote this show? It was instantly back on my radar. Long story short, I watched it and liked it a good bit, and the panties thing was pretty much misdirection. Not my favorite thing by the author, but it's fine, y'know? It looks like this guy was deceived in the other direction, playing the Punch Line game and thinking that it was actually about anime panties, instead of weird time travel and body dysmorphia and poo poo.
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John Lee posted:oh my god Oh hey I was about to post this very post. Except I hate most things the writer writes but this was actually a super-legit show and easily my favorite thing by him.
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The Something Awful Forums › Discussion › Games › Terrible Awful Games: obvious sharp angles in the butt polygons
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Kchama posted:Oh hey I was about to post this very post. Except I hate most things the writer writes but this was actually a super-legit show and easily my favorite thing by him. Not even Ever17!? You and I are enemies now.
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John Lee posted:Not even Ever17!? Dear enemy, I actually think Ever17 is real bad. That twist was the most convoluted and nonsensical one in history and did not justify me going through the rest of the boring everything! I relatedly think 999 is bad for similar reasons. We can at least agree that Punchline was way better than it had any right to be.
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The point is that this is an Uchikoshi's Wild Ride anime. Is it worth adding to my Steam wishlist in spite of the skeeviness?
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