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Darth Brooks posted:I wouldn't mind having some of those Topps cards. I still have my NFLEurope cards from Pro Set. I have XFL cards back home. The NFL as a brand is actually bigger than the NFL as a money making business enterprise. I mean it was a "Non-Profit" tax wise for about 60 years or so. They really do rely on state and local governments granting them tax breaks, tax increases to fund stadiums. Not to mention many other things so it doesn't go underwater. With the XFL? I do and I don't. It depends on how Vince manages the league. He has experience in this particular business. But I imagine a roster of wrestlers is rather different than managing multiple franchises. I'd feel much more confident if I would open the paper one day to see "Vince McMahon to own NY/NJ franchise. Mark Cuban to own team in Dallas, Rush Limbaugh/Gang of Oil Barons* to run St. Louis..." rather than the current set up. That annnd...TV contracts, Sponsorship deals (National AND Local), and playing politics with various local governments would give it a chance. (I morally oppose the last one but you have to play to win, yes?). *Not endorsing Limbaugh. Just was placing a hypothetical guy who's attempted to own an NFL team before.
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Yeah, you need eight billionaires who really want to own football teams. In 1959 you had twelve NFL teams and there were no teams open to buy. Now there's thirty two and finding a new owner when a team opens up is sometimes problematic.
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Apr 5, 2019 13:59
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And a twist of irony their brain is gone to agree to those terms on the contract.
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Colostomy Bag posted:And a twist of irony their brain is gone to agree to those terms on the contract. if you literally have no career prospects but athletics its amazingly easy to be convinced to give up even basic labor rights in exchange for a shot at a career (see: the NCAA)
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iwentdoodie posted:I went to dicks to try and grab some but they'd already gotten rid of any evidence Yeah I had to use the online store. No clue if there's even a Dick's around here. Probably is Flikken posted:Hits just keep coming I was a bit confused, like how can a guy already be suspended when he hasn't even joined a team yet? But: quote:He previously entered the NFL in 2016 as an undrafted free agent out of New Mexico with the Minnesota Vikings. Pressley then spent time with the Green Bay Packers, Atlanta Falcons, Jacksonville Jaguars and New York Giants before joining the AAF. So he must've gotten arrested at some point over the break or something
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Ches Neckbeard posted:I hope NFL players take some initiative and help out the injured AAF guys but that would take an actual sense of unity and loving LOL The NFLPA can't even take care of its own players
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Darth Brooks posted:Yeah, you need eight billionaires who really want to own football teams. In 1959 you had twelve NFL teams and there were no teams open to buy. Now there's thirty two and finding a new owner when a team opens up is sometimes problematic. Yeah, this is not a minor point. The NFL grew slowly from corporate sponsored community teams to professional sports over the span of a CENTURY. Trying to do it in 3 years no matter how many times you chant "were not competing with the NFL!" as a protective ward will never work.
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Flikken posted:Hits just keep coming Craig how you gonna get fired on your day off
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Dre2Dee2 posted:Yeah, this is not a minor point. The NFL grew slowly from corporate sponsored community teams to professional sports over the span of a CENTURY. The XFL was very much designed to compete with the NFL. Ebersol and McMahon was using them as "replacement" for NBC. This was done after NBC lost the rights to the AFC to CBS. The USFL was insanely aggressive in signing talent away from the NFL. Hindsight? It was insane. The past 3 Heisman winners were in that league. They signed Jim Kelly away from Buffalo, They got Steve Young to play in that league. You really do need some desperate parties involved honestly. People who couldn't get in the NFL "Old Boys Club" as owners, etc.
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CBS replaced that AAF game scheduled in the pre-Final Four slot with what looks like some tournament history time-fillers. Was still there a day or two ago when I went to record the Auburn game.
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https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1114279401296998403 Sports are not a place to make money ladies and gentleman.
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FuzzySkinner posted:https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1114279401296998403 Unless you don't have to pay labor then bathe in the money.
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FuzzySkinner posted:https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1114279401296998403 How do you not ask for cash up front for a start up football league lease
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FuzzySkinner posted:https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1114279401296998403 From the article posted:Apparently, the school never sent an invoice to the team. Big yikes. EDIT: oldskool posted:i mean it probably wouldn't have been paid anyway Possibly but at the very least UCF would've put themselves in line-assuming this "suspension" means the league is done for good-as creditors. Since it was rent, they would've put themselves fairly up high in the list of creditors to be paid. The SituAsian fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Apr 6, 2019 |
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FuzzySkinner posted:The XFL was very much designed to compete with the NFL. Ebersol and McMahon was using them as "replacement" for NBC. This was done after NBC lost the rights to the AFC to CBS. None of them will ever be quite as aggressive as the Al Davis-run AFL, although the USFL certainly came close.
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Reading up on the USFL makes you want to slap someone. They had a plan, secure NFL sized stadiums, get a TV contract and control costs. The idiots started ignoring the salary cap and threw away TV contracts that would have paid their way just so they could try and get into a dick waving contest with the NFL. I'm rather amazed that the AAF seems to have been started with no money in the bank. They got a lot of stuff right but their business plan seems to have been Build league, ??????, Profit.
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Darth Brooks posted:Reading up on the USFL makes you want to slap someone. They had a plan, secure NFL sized stadiums, get a TV contract and control costs. The idiots started ignoring the salary cap and threw away TV contracts that would have paid their way just so they could try and get into a dick waving contest with the NFL. Much like how I believe that we would be much better in a world where George W. Bush is known as being owner of the Texas Rangers? I really believe that the current sitting President would have been better in a world where he owned the Generals/kept them in the spring. (perhaps at the moment? He's owning the Baltimore Stars or something.) He helped Lawrence Taylor get PAID by the way. (The Giants were underpaying his services MASSIVELY) The TV Contract part of the conversation is the most important by the way. I think overpaying the players/going HARD after NFL bound talent made them legitimate. Had they not? I think they would have folded rather quickly. That's how they scared the NFL most of all being honest. Jason Sextro posted:None of them will ever be quite as aggressive as the Al Davis-run AFL, although the USFL certainly came close. This is indeed true. The entire history of the AFL being as successful as it was is..incredible. A truly invovative league that really pushed football into the modern age.
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At the very least I hope that the NFL will put in place some of the cool things the AAF did like letting us see how reviews work, the different camera angles that let you see the plays develop and the side by side commercials that didn’t interrupt gameplay as much. I also liked the AAF’s OT rules as well. I’d hate to see all of that go to waste when it got a lot of positive feedback.
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Morby posted:At the very least I hope that the NFL will put in place some of the cool things the AAF did like letting us see how reviews work, the different camera angles that let you see the plays develop and the side by side commercials that didn’t interrupt gameplay as much. I also liked the AAF’s OT rules as well. I’d hate to see all of that go to waste when it got a lot of positive feedback. The "each team gets the ball once but that's it" seems to be a good compromise between both teams playing offense and looking out for player safety by not having multiple OTs like college. I haven't checked but I would expect the current 10 minute period increased the amount of "1-possession per team in OT"' anyway. Maybe tweak the AAF OT a bit--start from the 25 like college, or allow FGs but they are all automatically 50 yards or more.
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Low Desert Punk posted:Picked up a New Era Legends cap from Dicks for 8 bucks lol I just checked the AAF site and the Starter jackets are still $160. A team branded football is $120. Jerseys start at, like, $60.
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Morby posted:I just checked the AAF site and the Starter jackets are still $160. A team branded football is $120. Jerseys start at, like, $60. No employees left to mark down. poo poo, I wonder if they're even shipping orders.
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Darth Brooks posted:Reading up on the USFL makes you want to slap someone. They had a plan, secure NFL sized stadiums, get a TV contract and control costs. The idiots started ignoring the salary cap and threw away TV contracts that would have paid their way just so they could try and get into a dick waving contest with the NFL.
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Damontre Moore of the Fleet signed with the 49ers.  #OneHandOnDeck
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The phrase "Trent Richardson is now free to sign with an NFL team" is giving me the giggles
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