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Who do you want to be the 2020 Democratic Nominee? This poll is closed. |
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| Joe "the liberal who fights busing" Biden |
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27 | 1.40% |
| Bernie "please don't die" Sanders |
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1017 | 52.69% |
| Cory "charter schools" Booker |
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12 | 0.62% |
| Kirsten "wall street" Gillibrand |
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24 | 1.24% |
| Kamala "truancy queen" Harris |
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59 | 3.06% |
| Julian "who?" Castro |
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7 | 0.36% |
| Tulsi "gay panic" Gabbard |
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25 | 1.30% |
| Michael "crimes crimes crimes" Avenatti |
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22 | 1.14% |
| Sherrod "discount bernie" Brown |
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21 | 1.09% |
| Amy "horrible boss" Klobuchar |
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12 | 0.62% |
| Tammy "stands for america" Duckworth |
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48 | 2.49% |
| Beto "whataburger" O'Rourke |
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32 | 1.66% |
| Elizabeth "instagram beer" Warren |
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284 | 14.72% |
| Tom "impeach please" Steyer |
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4 | 0.21% |
| Michael "soda is the devil" Bloomberg |
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9 | 0.47% |
| Joseph Stalin |
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287 | 14.87% |
| Howard "coffee republican" Schultz |
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10 | 0.52% |
Jay "nobody cares about climate change  " Inslee |
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13 | 0.67% |
| Pete "gently caress the homeless" Butt Man |
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17 | 0.88% |
| Total: | 1930 votes | ||
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you should have to release your taxes instead of paying  to post here imo
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bowser posted:Half of boomer love stories can be summed up as "he kept asking me out every day not taking no for an answer until I finally gave in and agreed to date him. Isn't that just romantic?" Some hilarious stories in here, some deeply creepy ones, some are one and the same. https://twitter.com/LukeMones/status/1105949071884328960
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Apr 6, 2019 05:07
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hadji murad posted:I want Bernie to release his taxes so all the ‘release your taxes’ people move on to something else unreasonable they can say over and over again without changing a single belief. I'm pretty sure that once the primaries really get going and we have a few debates, the sentence "But how is he going to pay for it?" will be repeated so many times that the words lose all meaning when placed in that sequence. Of course, it'll be repeated by the same people who ignored it every other time that the question has been answered.
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Apr 6, 2019 05:07
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DaveWoo posted:Nah, this isn’t even close to what a full-out assault against Bernie would look like. The right-wing media’s still holding its fire, for the most part. Looking forward to hearing them call him a socialist. Kept Obama from getting elected. mcmagic posted:Jesus Christ. I want Bernie to win. Every president in modern times has released their taxes except the current corrupt president. Bernie needs to release his taxes and the issue goes away and there is nothing stopping him from releasing them today. Those other candidates should release their taxes too. We care about your posting, not who you want to win. The issue will not go away and he already said the 15th. Judakel fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Apr 6, 2019 |
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Apr 6, 2019 05:12
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mcmagic posted:Jesus Christ. I want Bernie to win. Every president in modern times has released their taxes except the current corrupt president. Bernie needs to release his taxes and the issue goes away and there is nothing stopping him from releasing them today. Those other candidates should release their taxes too. Same way as how Obama released his birth certificate and the birtherism issue went away forever?
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Apr 6, 2019 05:31
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Where are the long form tax returns BERNIE!!!!!!!
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Apr 6, 2019 05:35
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Judakel posted:Where are the long form tax returns BERNIE!!!!!!! Release your 2nd grade report card! Unless you're afraid of revealing that you got a B in Spelling! 
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Apr 6, 2019 05:37
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mcmagic posted:Jesus Christ. I want Bernie to win. Every president in modern times has released their taxes except the current corrupt president. Bernie needs to release his taxes and the issue goes away and there is nothing stopping him from releasing them today. Those other candidates should release their taxes too. Wow, I didn't realize mcmagic was Bernie's personal accountant! You know for certain that his taxes are done and he's purposefully sitting on them? What a scoop, you should tell the media! The campaign has said they'll be released soon. Until that time, there is literally nothing any goon can do except say "he should release them" which we've all done multiple times. But sure, let's keep going down this conversational loophole, it's such a productive topic of discussion.
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Apr 6, 2019 05:44
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Bernie is an American everyman who doesn't do his taxes until the last minute.
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Apr 6, 2019 05:51
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WampaLord posted:Wow, I didn't realize mcmagic was Bernie's personal accountant! You know for certain that his taxes are done and he's purposefully sitting on them? What a scoop, you should tell the media! Like why is this even a thing? Every presidential nominee aside from Trump has released their taxes. Sanders might do it even earlier. And who cares? I have no reason to believe he's in some corrupt scheme. This is the least of our goddamn worries.
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Apr 6, 2019 05:53
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That's an eye popping stat https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1114178398153269249
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Apr 6, 2019 05:53
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BrandorKP posted:Moral influence is contagious. There is no rational reason to believe that specific efforts to get people not to vote (much less Russian ones, lol) has any kind of significant actual effect on voting rates, and the real reasons people don't vote almost certainly have very little to do with this. People are not being tricked into disengaging politically (at least to the extent that it's a non-negligible factor). Feel free to try and convince others to vote if it makes you feel better, but that will never be the real solution. The real solution is a combination of actually having candidates people like (and through good policy gradually restoring peoples' faith in the political system) and addressing voter suppression.
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Apr 6, 2019 05:56
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Charlz Guybon posted:That's an eye popping stat Dumb question, but there's been speculation that people like Beto are using bundlers to make up a big bulk of his donations by making multiple transactions rather than one big donation so that beto can say he has smaller dollar 'donations' (not donors), but eventually the names of these people will be released and we can actually see their multiple contributions and associated dollar amounts for each donation, correct?
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Apr 6, 2019 06:05
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Mister Fister posted:Dumb question, but there's been speculation that people like Beto are using bundlers to make up a big bulk of his donations by making multiple transactions rather than one big donation so that beto can say he has smaller dollar 'donations' (not donors), but eventually the names of these people will be released and we can actually see their multiple contributions and associated dollar amounts for each donation, correct? Names are only release for those who donate over 200 (cumulatively) , but yes, the number of individual donors will be known.
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Apr 6, 2019 06:26
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Judakel posted:Looking forward to hearing them call him a socialist. Kept Obama from getting elected. It's stupid to equate people wanting to see a candidate's taxes with birtherism.
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Apr 6, 2019 06:27
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mcmagic posted:It's stupid to equate people wanting to see a candidate's taxes with birtherism. why are you so eager to see his taxes right now?
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Apr 6, 2019 06:41
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mcmagic posted:It's stupid to equate people wanting to see a candidate's taxes with birtherism. You can think it is stupid. It is still true.
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Apr 6, 2019 06:53
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mcmagic posted:He's the front runner and he's been saying he's going to release them "right away" for months. Just loving release them already. Then call his campaign and tell the man and stop making the same boring bitchass post over and over
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Apr 6, 2019 06:56
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"Why isn't this perfidious Jew proving his innocence?" I demand while having an absolutely normal one.
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Apr 6, 2019 07:32
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A few of my friends who are fairly reasonable are saying that Buttigig is absolutely amazing and is The One To Watch, and Just Watch This Video. All I've seen of him is the 'hmmmmmmm wow' video where someone asks him if he'd rather Trump or Pence are president, and he makes a bunch of hammy faces. That was front page on CNN a while back. Have we found our establishment candidate?
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Apr 6, 2019 08:27
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Charlz Guybon posted:That's an eye popping stat quote:But others in the party are dubious. Sanders, they argue, is unique in his ability to rely on a grassroots-only fundraising model, and those who believe they can emulate it run risks. There are other Democrats totally capable of running their campaigns via grassroots fundraising. Guess what they all have in common?
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Apr 6, 2019 08:55
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If there's one thing Trump proved it's that people actually give zero fucks about candidate tax returns and if that's the best the MSM can come up with to smear him he's going to be fine.
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Apr 6, 2019 09:46
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mistaya posted:If there's one thing Trump proved it's that people actually give zero fucks about candidate tax returns and if that's the best the MSM can come up with to smear him he's going to be fine. It proves that Republicans don’t give a poo poo about their candidate’s tax returns because they vote purely out of hate and spite and to own the libs. I think Democratic voters will care about seeing their candidate’s tax returns, especially when the media pushes it hard (and certainly harder than they pushed Trump on it 3 years ago). However I don’t think it’s necessary for him to release them until he’s clinched the nomination.
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Apr 6, 2019 10:11
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It's not like Democrats hide when they are in the pocket of big business either, what exactly are we going to find in Corey Booker's tax returns that we didn't already know was there? The whole thing is stupid. Like I agree that they should be made public, but only for transparency and because having a light on these things encourages good behavior for elected officials. I don't think it has any value outside of that, and the media is not going to change any minds over unreleased tax returns the way they did with butter emails.
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Apr 6, 2019 10:50
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I'm really sure that the people who until a week ago were screaming about listening to women that are now indistinguishable from an average MAGA chud yelling at Flores in her replies are going to drop their bad faith demands for something that no one has had to do before and only 25% of the primary candidates have done yet anyway. I want him to release them purely to confirm just how full of poo poo liberals are yet again when they move the goal posts to 10+ years of taxes or say that he must be lying since there's no payment from Putin in them. The reason it's even an issue is the Democrats are so devoid of any substance they are constantly looking for silver bullets to do the work for them. Surely when we get Trump and Bernie's taxes it will destroy them so Biden can coast to victory because there's no other option yay! Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 10:53 on Apr 6, 2019 |
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Apr 6, 2019 10:51
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that biden is the best the centrists have in their stable is also heartening. the guy is a loving gaffe machine and he hasn't even officially entered the race
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Apr 6, 2019 12:20
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https://twitter.com/BethLynch2020/status/1114392556006256640
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Apr 6, 2019 12:52
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Lightning Knight posted:What the poo poo is this lmao. Who wrote this garbage?
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Apr 6, 2019 13:24
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Lightning Knight posted:I’m starting to think this Yang guy may be an idiot.
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Apr 6, 2019 13:25
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Condiv posted:meanwhile, liking this tweet from berno Fun fact: Christine Ahn was on Citations Needed once. She's pretty great. https://soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/ep-35-the-total-blackout-of-the-korean-left Good on Bernie for talking to her.
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Apr 6, 2019 13:47
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If you REALLY care about Sander's tax returns, you should think to yourself how are you any different than the people that were manipulated by our trash media into REALLY caring about Clinton's emails?
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Apr 6, 2019 14:04
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clinton released hers after the primary. it is not normal to be asking primary candidates for their tax returns. he's going to release them (which he should since he said he would) and it's going to be some other stupid talking point from these people.
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Apr 6, 2019 14:14
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King of Solomon posted:Fun fact: Christine Ahn was on Citations Needed once. She's pretty great. https://soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/ep-35-the-total-blackout-of-the-korean-left She’s a very good voice on Korean issues and this is an excellent sign on his foreign policy.
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Apr 6, 2019 14:14
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Groovelord Neato posted:clinton released hers after the primary. it is not normal to be asking primary candidates for their tax returns. he's going to release them (which he should since he said he would) and it's going to be some other stupid talking point from these people. Yeah. If anything BUT HER EMAILS had some tiny layer of legitimacy to it (she had a private email server like a bunch of other government officials so the issue was she was being hit unfairly for something that was not atypical) while this one is fabricated entirely out of thin air for a standard made up just for Sanders. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Apr 6, 2019 |
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Apr 6, 2019 14:49
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mcmagic posted:Jesus Christ. I want Bernie to win. Every president in modern times has released their taxes except the current corrupt president. Bernie needs to release his taxes and the issue goes away and there is nothing stopping him from releasing them today. Those other candidates should release their taxes too. "The president has to release their taxes" is a dumbshit tradition with zero legal standing, and none of the candidates are presidenr Its literally just a smear tactic against Bernie and you're buying I
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Apr 6, 2019 15:19
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*erects a cross upon which we can crucify mcmagic for aposty* Just drop it, man. These guys will never be convinced either that you have a point, or that you're making it non-maliciously. Each post you make about it will just drive you deeper and deeper into the permanent, unescapable depths of Radical Centrist Ghoulism. We both know the tax returns are unlikely to be interesting and don't really matter; Bernie is the professional Politics Guy so we just have to trust him to release them at what he believes to the best time. It's irritating to hear people who are actually anti-Bernie squawk about it, and, sure, who wouldn't like him to just shut them up? But frustrated Bernie supports echoing them isn't going to do any good. And now we play... the waiting game. ... ... ... Aww, the waiting game sucks, let's play Hungry Hungry Hippos!
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Apr 6, 2019 15:31
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Bernie should have quietly released his tax returns before he announced. Now his stalling has increased scrutiny and the bad narrative around him being a 1%er with multiple houses.
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Apr 6, 2019 15:37
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There is no precedent whatsoever for a candidate having to have already released their tax returns a year and a half before the election, before the primary has even properly begun. None of the establishment favorites (Kamala, Buttigieg, Beto) have released their tax returns either -- why would they have to? And yet nobody seems to care. People like to go "uh, yeah, they should do it too" when called out on this, but they're not making GBS threads up threads about Buttigieg's love of Hamilton or foreign languages, or about Beto's dog or whatever, with incoherent all-caps demands to see what Putin money they're hiding in their secret offshore Jew bank accounts. The (non-legally-binding) tradition is for a candidate to release their tax returns during the general election, after they have secured the nomination. People acting like Bernie is somehow "late" in releasing his, when he's actually insanely early, are at least passively participating in some gross antisemitism and I will die on this hill
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Apr 6, 2019 15:45
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Please explain why it's an "issue" for Bernie Sanders to release his tax returns before the primary debates have even started when that has never been something anyone cared about and the only "real" candidate anyone even sort of cares about so far that has done it is Warren. I'd love to know why this is a serious and pressing issue, please explain it to me so I can understand why there is so much focus on him and literally zero on anyone else. Maybe this is just another attempt by our garbage fire media to create a problem where there isn't one for a candidate that is scandal free and idiots are running with it because the rest of the Democratic primary is a mess and that's all they have but maybe there's something there so please explain why this is a "problem" and not just parachuting in to complain you are concerned for some nebulous reason and then acting offended when called out. Frankly even engaging with BUT HIS TAXES is pathetic on my part but maybe there's something I'm missing about all this sudden concern for a thing that has literally no precedent and no one actually gives a poo poo about outside donut twitter and dumbfuck cable pundits.
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Radish posted:If you REALLY care about Sander's tax returns, you should think to yourself how are you any different than the people that were manipulated by our trash media into REALLY caring about Clinton's emails? A standard Bernie attack was about Clinton hiding her speeches to moneyed interests. Bernie knew the power of creating an air of suspicion around a candidate, especially where money is concerned, and the Clinton camp's stubbornness and weak deflections only undermined her.
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