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JFairfax posted:hurrrr durrr im an idiot who hasn't seen what labour's said since day one on this that doesn't contradict what I said at all
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Vlex posted:Mestizo, up by Euston. Any other answer is inadmissible. JeremoudCorbynejad posted:I'd like to submit Cafe Pacifico near Covent Garden as a close second? JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Also, not quite Mexican but Cubana down near Waterloo station does some amazing Cuban food and - importantly - does strawberry daquiries for half price during happy hour. So easy to get absolutely pissed to death on those thanks will try and report back
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Aw poo poo Jose you been called out sonArgumentatumE.C.T. posted:Pull right out of that loving Holocaust denier playbook, but if it's the Holodomor you're denying it's fuckin' A-OK. I would hope to see someone denying a genocide for personal political reasons be punished for it on this forum, but here?
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V. Illych L. posted:the point being, it's not a particularly courageous bit of political signalling, but claiming that it's arguing for a restrictive immigration policy is also not reasonable - because it's saying nothing at all. again, arguably good politics since they seem to have got away with it, but certainly not good policy (in that it's not making any policy statement at all) I agree with this, but I do think it’s implausible to suggest that it could mean that Labour would intend to replace it with exactly the same thing. I don’t think anyone other than the most hardcore “Corbyn is a secret remoaner” type could take seriously the suggestion that the statement in the manifesto is a secret way to say they want to keep freedom of movement without explicitly saying so. If you want an immigration system that restricts migration much more, you can read that from the statement. If you want an immigration system which treats all countries equally when assessing applicants, you can read that from the statement. But if you want a bilateral agreement with the EU guaranteeing the right of future Britons to live and work in the EU without any restriction at all and guaranteeing the same for future EU immigrants, i.e. you specifically want Freedom of Movement and not just “a fairer immigration system”, I don’t think you can plausibly read that from the manifesto—so it’s a bit silly, I think, to take the tack that the statement is completely devoid of intent. It is a call for a different system, but as you say not necessarily a more restrictive one.
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JFairfax posted:im the shaky camera Seriously. Camera person got the DTs? Amateur hour poo poo, just get a tripod, ffs
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Apr 7, 2019 15:29
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Barry Foster posted:Seriously. Camera person got the DTs? Amateur hour poo poo, just get a tripod, ffs i think it's supposed to make it folksy, or like a YouTube? but then most you tubers have better setups lol also I like the way she stumbles over a line and they didn't do another take.
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Rarity posted:Aw poo poo Jose you been called out son yeah i saw lol
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bump_fn posted:can someone summarize that vid i have negative desire to watch it BREXIT MEANS BREXIT MUST GET A DEAL NOTHING HAS CHANGED FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRT 
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bump_fn posted:can someone summarize that vid i have negative desire to watch it
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bump_fn posted:can someone summarize that vid i have negative desire to watch it basically the tweet i posted last night https://twitter.com/polhomeeditor/status/1114641374228504578?s=12
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https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1114898572426862595 That's the Melt one that doesn't require it's members to be Jewish but does require them to "promote the centrality of Israel in Jewish life and its development on the basis of freedom, social justice and equality for all its citizens."
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1114898572426862595 wait that's actually a membership commitment? one that's completely at odds with the rules of party membership?
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Necrothatcher posted:I mean, it's a bit tonally odd but the guy seems to be sincerely and unreservedly condemning the paras who shot at the Corbyn target so... what's the problem? For me at least it was how he seemed to think it was “lack of discipline” first and “actual crime” later
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1114898572426862595 Very normal group.
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Spangly A posted:wait that's actually a membership commitment? one that's completely at odds with the rules of party membership? https://www.jewishlabour.uk/full_membership
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Hello, this is the captain of the Titanic. Over the last few hours people have been asking me about the Iceberg. And I can understand that as we have planned this trip for several years now. Well where we're at is that after the Bridge Crew talking wtih my engineers, and my preference was to continue sailing. But my engineers have rejected that, they want to evacuate. So the choice we have ahead of us, is to continue to sail to New York, or evacuate to the life boats. Now I think, as the Bridge Crew, we MUST continue to sail to New York. So we need to look at new ways, to find an agreement with the engineers. That means cross party talks. When you think about it, the passengers did not pay to mingle with the other classes in the life boats. And I think the first class passengers would want us ship workers to work together. Now there's lots of things I disagree with the engineers. And so we are talking, and it would mean compromise on both sides. But I believe that sailing on to New York is the most important thing to us. I want to do this in a good way, and that's what the Bridge Crew is working for. (apologies to the real Titanic captain)
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Spangly A posted:well this explains a lot They're basically the politically correct wing of Labour Friends of Israel.
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happyhippy posted:Hello, this is the captain of the Titanic. Don't apologise to him, he was also a loving idiot who wouldn't listen to sense.
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Jedit posted:Don't apologise to him, he was also a loving idiot who wouldn't listen to sense. To be fair to him, at least he went down with his ship. Can't see May following his example.
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TheRat posted:They're basically the politically correct wing of Labour Friends of Israel. poo poo I guess we are an institutionally antisemitic party until they're expelled e; azza you're a treasure
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TheRat posted:They're basically the politically correct wing of Labour Friends of Israel. Seriously don't know why the leadership isn't responding to this poo poo more aggressively, these dumbass loving groups whined and moaned until Labour adopted flawed IHRA definitions that they themselves constantly violate (centrality of Israel in Jewish life ffs). It's actually obscene, going by the rules they demanded they're the source of piles more antisemitism than the Labour left (which has a couple of genuinely problematic nutters and a slightly larger collection of idiots failing to be adequately careful in their language). Why aren't they being called out on this? I'm half of a mind to start submitting complaints whenever I see this, but given how much pressure the admin guys are under I'm uncertain. This whole thing is really, genuinely upsetting to watch, especially as it does seem to be sticking to some extent. It's just some of the most staggeringly bad faith bullshit, and the leadership should absolutely be going on the offensive rather than hand wringing about it and making themselves seem more guilty than they are.
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Jose posted:So I assume hodge was recording this but I don't see what the problem is? Curious that now is when the antisemitism stuff has come up again though This is hilarious. The Sunday Times gets someone to seeeecretly record Corbyn’s behind-closed-doors anti-semitic ranting, but the best they get is him boringly talking about procedure. And they still put it on their YouTube channel for the incredible exposure of 936 views.
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Comrade Fakename posted:This is hilarious. The Sunday Times gets someone to seeeecretly record Corbyn’s behind-closed-doors anti-semitic ranting, but the best they get is him boringly talking about procedure. And they still put it on their YouTube channel for the incredible exposure of 936 views. You’ll just have to imagine the horrid things he was doing to a cold tin of beans at the time.
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Jedit posted:Don't apologise to him, he was also a loving idiot who wouldn't listen to sense. why was he an idiot? genuinely don’t know
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Jose posted:So I assume hodge was recording this but I don't see what the problem is? Curious that now is when the antisemitism stuff has come up again though Uh, did she secretly record a private meeting with the leadership and then leak it to the press? I feel like that should be grounds for expulsion
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I dunno guys I'm looking at the IHRA guidelines and it doesn't really say anything about not conflating Israel and Jews. https://www.holocaustremembrance.com/working-definition-antisemitism At most there's this: quote:Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations. Then there's also this, which can suck my diaspora Bund balls quote:Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor. Am I reading the wrong thing?
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ThomasPaine posted:Seriously don't know why the leadership isn't responding to this poo poo more aggressively, these dumbass loving groups whined and moaned until Labour adopted flawed IHRA definitions that they themselves constantly violate (centrality of Israel in Jewish life ffs). It's actually obscene, going by the rules they demanded they're the source of piles more antisemitism than the Labour left (which has a couple of genuinely problematic nutters and a slightly larger collection of idiots failing to be adequately careful in their language). Why aren't they being called out on this? I'm half of a mind to start submitting complaints whenever I see this, but given how much pressure the admin guys are under I'm uncertain. This whole thing is really, genuinely upsetting to watch, especially as it does seem to be sticking to some extent. It's just some of the most staggeringly bad faith bullshit, and the leadership should absolutely be going on the offensive rather than hand wringing about it and making themselves seem more guilty than they are. Because nobody actually gives a poo poo about the IHRA definition and telling them off will trigger another week of "antisemitic labour bashes the jews". Obviously that's happening anyway thanks to these assholes, but I assume that's the party's thinking. It's easier to fight when you don't have concrete examples and expelling JLM is a very good example. Personally I think they should just bring Jewdas in instead (or JVL if you're boring, I guess)
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Abel Wingnut posted:why was he an idiot? genuinely don’t know basically didn't slow the ship down despite getting several warnings on the day of the sinking saying "there's a poo poo-ton of ice nearby"
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