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That's right, I was misremembering Either way, the overall point stands. The League isn't necessarily the be-all, end-all of Pokemon battling competitions, given not even Tobias and his two Legendaries has fought a champion. The Orange League is still comparable, I think.
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Nodosaur posted:That's right, I was misremembering Pity they didn't end it there.
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Apr 7, 2019 00:36
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Just found these unredeemed Shiny Poipole and (regular) Zeraora cards while cleaning. The cards supposedly expired in December and January, but it couldn't hurt to try if you have a copy of Ultra S/M that hasn't redeemed these gifts yet right? Shiny Poipole A878KJGENJFS5S8P Zeraora A8922HJASJPRT56X A8922LCLD892CJX2 A8922KJXTS5SC75S
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Apr 7, 2019 01:03
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Nodosaur posted:That's right, I was misremembering The writers clearly disagree with you since they see Ash losing every League he gets as the only way to keep him traveling.
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Apr 7, 2019 01:18
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Ash is a role model for the modern youth, who teaches that you can't just win at life even if you try your hardest, might as well just enjoy the journey.
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Apr 7, 2019 01:39
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Saoshyant posted:Ash is a role model for the modern youth, who teaches that you can't just win at life even if you try your hardest, might as well just enjoy the journey. This but somewhat less ironically. It would have felt weird if Ash had come in first in a 256-person tournament as a rookie, and the way some people see Ash as a "failure" for not coming in first in 256-person tournaments arguably reflects some messed-up attitudes.
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Apr 7, 2019 02:17
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Ash is a role model for humans, who teaches us that even when you win, it doesn’t count.
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Saoshyant posted:Ash is a role model for the modern youth, who teaches that you can't just win at life even if you try your hardest, might as well just enjoy the journey. And that when you lose your frog to some guardian deity who can't do poo poo for itself apparently, you should simply go back into education.
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Apr 7, 2019 03:10
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I'm not convinced Ash had ever been to school prior to Sun and Moon.
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Apr 7, 2019 03:15
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I'm mostly okay with Ash not winning yet. He came top 16 in Kanto (which, considering how green and quite frankly bad he was at the time is a huge accomplishment, especially considering how much the writers poo poo on him during that arc), then came in top 8, top 8, top 4, top 8, and top 2 in the preceding league tournies. That's pretty drat impressive, honestly. And he won the Orange League and the Battle Frontier. If we really want to get picky, then...  ...there's all these other competitions he's either won or done really well in, too.  I'm not really sure what my point is but hey Ash is a way better trainer than he usually gets credit for.
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Apr 7, 2019 03:34
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:And that when you lose your frog to some guardian deity who can't do poo poo for itself apparently, you should simply go back into education. He “lost” his frog (read, willingly allowed his friend to do something important) because he had the ability to detect the roots spread across Kalos by Team Flare’s monstrosity, which were still an ecological threat to people, not because Zygarde is helpless. Blaze Dragon posted:The writers clearly disagree with you since they see Ash losing every League he gets as the only way to keep him traveling. I am fully aware of that, but looking at them all objectively, they are still comparable in an in-universe context, and it’s still clear that the fandom deliberately undersells them to make it appear as if he has achieved less than he has. This happens with tons of poo poo, like with the whole meme that Ash never evolves his Pokémon when the majority of Pokémon he’s caught have evolved at least once. Nodosaur fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Apr 7, 2019 |
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Apr 7, 2019 03:50
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Nodosaur posted:The "full league's" contestants have included a guy using a Bellsprout and a girl with a Quilava. Ash himself entered multiple tournaments with unevolved Pokemon. To be fair that Bellsprout was awesome and dunked on Pikachu.
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Apr 7, 2019 04:12
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The "Ash is loser" meme is just one of those things that the anime is best known for, just like the first English opening theme, the Team Rocket trio's general antics, Pokémon saying their names as their main form of communication and calling onigiri "donuts". No matter how far away the anime manages to get away from them, someone's going to remember the anime for these things.
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Apr 7, 2019 04:22
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Squats posted:Just found these unredeemed Shiny Poipole and (regular) Zeraora cards while cleaning. The cards supposedly expired in December and January, but it couldn't hurt to try if you have a copy of Ultra S/M that hasn't redeemed these gifts yet right? Yeah it says these have expired. Thanks though!
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Zuzie posted:The "Ash is loser" meme is just one of those things that the anime is best known for, just like the first English opening theme, the Team Rocket trio's general antics, Pokémon saying their names as their main form of communication and calling onigiri "donuts". No matter how far away the anime manages to get away from them, someone's going to remember the anime for these things. It's mainly Ash and co. is boring. I have the same problem with the Pokemon anime that I have with the Simpsons, South Park , etc. A series that seems to go on indefinitely will eventually lose me because I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be invested in. The characters are unchanging, there's nothing compelling here and we all know how the arc is going to end. I guess someone can say but the journey! Yeah well the journey is predicable at this point and really can't bring myself care about the characters because they'll be shelved semi-permanently within a year. That's why I don't like it. Also I listened to english dub by accident and my God it was horrendous. They ain't even trying now.
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What is up with the lack of effort in the Sinnoh Pokedex text. I noticed it in Go and now as I catch Sinnoh Pokémon in OR I contrast the gen4 entries with gen3 and previous and they're just lacking. Like "this Pokemon has wings. It flies.". Instead of something cute and/or weird.
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Apr 7, 2019 07:00
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Vandar posted:I'm mostly okay with Ash not winning yet. He came top 16 in Kanto (which, considering how green and quite frankly bad he was at the time is a huge accomplishment, especially considering how much the writers poo poo on him during that arc), then came in top 8, top 8, top 4, top 8, and top 2 in the preceding league tournies. That's pretty drat impressive, honestly. And he won the Orange League and the Battle Frontier. What I'm getting from this list is that Ash may not be the best at battling, but he absolutely fucks poo poo up if there's a gimmick. Good to see his king Tauros seems to have shown up to continue to own.
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Nasgate posted:What I'm getting from this list is that Ash may not be the best at battling, but he absolutely fucks poo poo up if there's a gimmick. Good to see his king Tauros seems to have shown up to continue to own. Do we even know it's the same Tauros every time? Ash releasing his Pokemon just means he's got buddies in every drat region he goes through. Oddly enough a lot like N.
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Ash has only released six Pokémon, and two of them (Goodra and Greninja) are technically still his anyway if he should choose to call on them/once Greninja finishes doing the thing. So it’s really only four. And I imagine we’ll see Poipole again by the end of Alola to give him a roster of six for the league. ... unless Lusamine loans him the Ride Garchomp. Nodosaur fucked around with this message at 08:42 on Apr 7, 2019 |
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Apr 7, 2019 08:40
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Nodosaur posted:That's right, I was misremembering Didn’t the anime state that the League is just a preliminary selection for starting the Elite Four challenge? I kind of remember that from somewhere.
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Apr 7, 2019 09:36
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Geostomp posted:Didn’t the anime state that the League is just a preliminary selection for starting the Elite Four challenge? I kind of remember that from somewhere. Yes. That was established in Sinnoh. Winning the Pokemon League is basically what gets you to the majors, so to speak.
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Zuzie posted:The "Ash is loser" meme is just one of those things that the anime is best known for, just like the first English opening theme, the Team Rocket trio's general antics, Pokémon saying their names as their main form of communication and calling onigiri "donuts". No matter how far away the anime manages to get away from them, someone's going to remember the anime for these things. well yeah, most of us stopped watching it like 20 years ago
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Nodosaur posted:Yes. That was established in Sinnoh. Winning the Pokemon League is basically what gets you to the majors, so to speak. How does that place the league in game context? Like is the league (tournament) a thing the games skip over and we straight go from 8badges/trails to trying to become the regional champion? So in anime continuity it would be pokemon league champ > challenge elite 4 > challenge champ ? With you being able to become elite 4 down the road if you keep up long enough and an old one retires or something?
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Wasn't there some talk that Heracross was originally going to be Pinsir's evolution? The same game introduced Scizor(who is Pinsir's counterpart), their heights are the same, they're in the same game version, ect.
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Nope, this was Pinsir's evo:
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...And that's obviously an early version of Heracross.
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less laughter posted:Nope, this was Pinsir's evo: So Mega Pinsir’s legless fury goes way back before Mega Evolution was a twinkle in Gamefreak’s eyes?
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Do we even know it's the same Tauros every time? "It has never been revealed whether Ash uses the same Tauros whenever one of them is transferred to him or if Professor Oak simply sends him a random one each time." My personal head Canon is that Oak just grabs whichever one is leading the herd at the time.
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Ash's Tauros is like a school of Wishiwashi. If you look at the animation frame by frame you can see that the Tauros he's using in any particular battle is actually all his Tauros interlocking with each other.
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galagazombie posted:Ash's Tauros is like a school of Wishiwashi. If you look at the animation frame by frame you can see that the Tauros he's using in any particular battle is actually all his Tauros interlocking with each other. They've yet to form a giant angry cow. 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cT6ULpScZA Cross-posting from the Polygon thread because I think this thread can appreciate having their own Terry at one point or another.
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That's really magical
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Zedd posted:How does that place the league in game context? There’s no way to tell because we’ve never seen what happens after you win the league. Only a few of Ash’s actual league rivals have gone on to win the championship, and we never saw Tyson or Tobias make the attempt while Alain seems content to go back to his old job without pushing further. Considering though that we keep seeing the Elite Four challenging the champion (Aaron and Flint both take Cynthia on, for example), I would guess there’s a sort of pro league consisting of people who have the right to challenge Elite Four members, and then, if you win a position in said Elite Four, you then have the right to challenge the Champion. But this is just an inference based on what we’ve seen.
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Shinjobi posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cT6ULpScZA this is fantastic bdg is a treasure
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What should I do with Type:Null ? I have a revolving door for a sixth slot and it seems interesting enough to keep around while I do post-game stuff.
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Nasgate posted:What should I do with Type:Null ? I have a revolving door for a sixth slot and it seems interesting enough to keep around while I do post-game stuff. If it evolves you get a mini-Arceus that can change into any type you like. If you keep it as it, you get a big wall that can buff itself while taking hits -- it can also equip the Eviolite.
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Shinjobi posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cT6ULpScZA Oh my goodness, that was amazing. I ended up watching the whole thing, laughing all the way through.
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Shinjobi posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cT6ULpScZA Are there Pokeymon say-ers in this very thread??
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