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Aleph Null
Jun 10, 2008

You look very stressed
Tortured By Flan

OutOfPrint posted:

That makes sense. It's like why the gore in an 80's horror movie is fun, but modern torture porn isn't.

I agree. Some people love it and that's fine. I do not think they are weird or gross or broken, just better able to separate fiction and reality.
But my overactive empathy makes it way too nauseatingly uncomfortable to watch.

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Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

I have almost the opposite reaction where "cartoony gore" feels so weird and tonally inconsistent that I dislike it more than in something grounded like the last of us. Like the gore in team fortress 2 felt really off to me, as much as I enjoyed the rest of the game

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Digirat posted:

I have almost the opposite reaction where "cartoony gore" feels so weird and tonally inconsistent that I dislike it more than in something grounded like the last of us. Like the gore in team fortress 2 felt really off to me, as much as I enjoyed the rest of the game
Genuine, non-insult question, have you ever been diagnosed with OCD or anything similar?

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

No? What?

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Digirat posted:

No? What?
What you were saying reminded me of a friend with OCD describing the way that abstract thoughts could be more physically disturbing than seeing the same thing in a more concrete way.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




FactsAreUseless posted:

What you were saying reminded me of a friend with OCD describing the way that abstract thoughts could be more physically disturbing than seeing the same thing in a more concrete way.

Sounds like how good horror movies work. And also something about HD re-releases of Alien not being quite as scary as the original because you can see down 14 yards of hallway in the space station at any given time.

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:

StrixNebulosa posted:

After watching the Mortal Kombat fatalities, and then seeing these gifs -





- I agree. These are doofs having fun and the spines are just part of that fun. Compare/contrast with the MK11 Fatalities and migod, that's gross

Don't be fooled if we had the technology in the 90s mortal kombat i would've been just as gross

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦
I felt that MKX went a little too far too until I saw each fatality like six or seven times, and then I was totally on board from there.

It stops feeling so gross when it’s perfectly scripted and comes out the same way every single time.

Samuringa
Mar 27, 2017

Best advice I was ever given?

"Ticker, you'll be a lot happier once you stop caring about the opinions of a culture that is beneath you."

I learned my worth, learned the places and people that matter.

Opened my eyes.
MK still manages to be goofy even with the realism and sometimes because of it.

Expect No Mercy was a 90s fighting game that was just humorless and gross, a complete waste.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Dewgy posted:

I felt that MKX went a little too far too until I saw each fatality like six or seven times, and then I was totally on board from there.

It stops feeling so gross when it’s perfectly scripted and comes out the same way every single time.

They'll all be fine.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!
I don't know if this is necessarily 'dragging the game down', but I've noticed it and it's been bothering me: All of Dissidia Final Fantasy NT's 'heavy' characters are villains.

That doesn't really do anything directly, but it does skew things a little weirdly. The game seems generally more inclined to showcase the hero characters, both through the story mode and the free characters (although the latter might just be because there's more of them), so if you're someone like me that works better with the heavies the game services you less.

I suppose the only thing that manifests as explicitly a 'bad thing' about that is that there's some great potential picks for those types of heroes, and you just don't get them. Sabin, Barret, a couple of people from IV, Auron, Steiner, even the debatable ones get characters like XIV's Raubahn, there's a lot to pick from that could really stand out from the rest of the cast.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Cleretic posted:

I don't know if this is necessarily 'dragging the game down', but I've noticed it and it's been bothering me: All of Dissidia Final Fantasy NT's 'heavy' characters are villains.

That doesn't really do anything directly, but it does skew things a little weirdly. The game seems generally more inclined to showcase the hero characters, both through the story mode and the free characters (although the latter might just be because there's more of them), so if you're someone like me that works better with the heavies the game services you less.

I suppose the only thing that manifests as explicitly a 'bad thing' about that is that there's some great potential picks for those types of heroes, and you just don't get them. Sabin, Barret, a couple of people from IV, Auron, Steiner, even the debatable ones get characters like XIV's Raubahn, there's a lot to pick from that could really stand out from the rest of the cast.

Speaking of things dragging that game down, I heard they dropped gilgamesh?

Judge Tesla
Oct 29, 2011

:frogsiren:
To be fair as well before Final Fantasy 7 every villain was a dude in heavy armour with the exception of Kefka.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

Tunicate posted:

Speaking of things dragging that game down, I heard they dropped gilgamesh?

He's not the only one from the second Dissidia that didn't make it into the third--we're also missing Gabranth from XII, Tifa from VII, Laguna from VIII (who I believe could've counted as a 'heavy' in the last one) and Prishe from XI. But he is the saddest one, especially because they've got a whole new Clash on the Big Bridge remix.

Although if you're getting pedantic story-wise, I think he technically can't be pulled into the conflict that makes up the game's setting, because he's neither a legendary hero or villain, and also doesn't actually reside in any 'world' to take him from. Nobody can control Gilgamesh's presence, he only makes his appearance if he wants to, and it didn't go so well for him last time.

Judge Tesla posted:

To be fair as well before Final Fantasy 7 every villain was a dude in heavy armour with the exception of Kefka.

Almost right, but not quite; 2's Emperor was at most lightly armored (although he's not one of the heavies), and who 3's villain is is debatable, but neither of the contenders even wore shirts! (also 3's villain rep, Cloud of Darkness, is one of the heavies despite that)

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Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



exquisite tea posted:

They'll all be fine.

I'm not familiar with the lore but I think the competitors in Mortal Kombat need to chill out and show a little more sportsmanship. Say there was a cricket match on real-life Earth and people were pulling out their opponents' spines and things like that, not only would that probably be illegal, but you would be all: is this really necessary? It's bad form to rub it in when you've just won a match.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Cleretic posted:

He's not the only one from the second Dissidia that didn't make it into the third--we're also missing Gabranth from XII, Tifa from VII, Laguna from VIII (who I believe could've counted as a 'heavy' in the last one) and Prishe from XI. But he is the saddest one, especially because they've got a whole new Clash on the Big Bridge remix.

Although if you're getting pedantic story-wise, I think he technically can't be pulled into the conflict that makes up the game's setting, because he's neither a legendary hero or villain, and also doesn't actually reside in any 'world' to take him from. Nobody can control Gilgamesh's presence, he only makes his appearance if he wants to, and it didn't go so well for him last time.

He's currently booked to making hilarious appearances in XIV. His most recent one, for example.

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rydiafan
Mar 17, 2009


Phlegmish posted:

I'm not familiar with the lore but I think the competitors in Mortal Kombat need to chill out and show a little more sportsmanship. Say there was a cricket match on real-life Earth and people were pulling out their opponents' spines and things like that, not only would that probably be illegal, but you would be all: is this really necessary? It's bad form to rub it in when you've just won a match.

It's only a game. Why you heff to fatality?

Aleph Null
Jun 10, 2008

You look very stressed
Tortured By Flan

rydiafan posted:

It's only a game. Why you heff to fatality?

Being back Babalities.

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Phlegmish posted:

I'm not familiar with the lore but I think the competitors in Mortal Kombat need to chill out and show a little more sportsmanship. Say there was a cricket match on real-life Earth and people were pulling out their opponents' spines and things like that, not only would that probably be illegal, but you would be all: is this really necessary? It's bad form to rub it in when you've just won a match.

Counterpoint: it would both be more entertaining than Old Cricket and would solve many global medical problems by harnessing players as an infinite, instantly renewable source of internal organs.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


If members of parliament could rip out each other's spines in polite debate then Brexit would have never happened.

Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007

In MK9, Kratos is a guest character, with his stage being the chamber where he fought Zeus in a 2d section in GoW3. That part's snazzy, the part dragging it down is none of the stage fatalities have you throw the opponent into the Flame of Olympus like you did Pandora.

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



Cleretic posted:

Almost right, but not quite; 2's Emperor was at most lightly armored (although he's not one of the heavies), and who 3's villain is is debatable, but neither of the contenders even wore shirts! (also 3's villain rep, Cloud of Darkness, is one of the heavies despite that)

And one is just a sentient tree! Though all that means is that Exdeath would float on water instead of sinking to the bottom. Trees are still heavy as hell.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Cleretic posted:

Nobody can control Gilgamesh's presence, he only makes his appearance if he wants to, and it didn't go so well for him last time.


I think you're giving him far too mich credit in terms of competence and forethought here

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Captain Hygiene posted:

Counterpoint: it would both be more entertaining than Old Cricket and would solve many global medical problems by harnessing players as an infinite, instantly renewable source of internal organs.

OK how about we make real-life cricket more violent but Mortal Kombat has to rename itself Gentlemanly Kondukt and you now get points for inquiring after your opponent's family before the match, helping them up when they fall, and administering first aid when required.

Afriscipio
Jun 3, 2013

exquisite tea posted:

If members of parliament could rip out each other's spines in polite debate then Brexit would have never happened.

Tories have spines?

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

Phlegmish posted:

OK how about we make real-life cricket more violent but Mortal Kombat has to rename itself Gentlemanly Kondukt and you now get points for inquiring after your opponent's family before the match, helping them up when they fall, and administering first aid when required.

It's just not Brockian Ultra-Cricket.

Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Afriscipio posted:

Tories have spines?

Unknown. What we do know is they're infected with the T-virus, as this former Tory shows:

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Sunswipe posted:

Unknown. What we do know is they're infected with the T-virus, as this former Tory shows:


He looks like he's wearing someone else's face.

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.


Sleeping Dogs DE: I can't count the number of times I've tried to hail a cab only to hijack it instead because the two actions are mapped to the same button. A design-decision up there with Mass Effect's action-button.

Wei's shoulders don't seem to sway while running, giving his run-cycle an unnatural appearance.

You can only spend money on clothes and cars and there's nothing interesting to splash out on since all the upgrades are tied to XP bars.

I don't like holding down buttons in a beat-em-up to inflict heavy attacks. Heavy attacks should have gotten their own button.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

What did you say the strategy was?

Afriscipio posted:

Tories have spines?

Cornyn doesn't either, so that leaves... The snp?

Gnome de plume
Sep 5, 2006

Hell.
Fucking.
Yes.

exquisite tea posted:

They'll all be fine.

Outworld has really good healthcare so losing a spine isn't such a big deal on its own

It's the premiums that will kill ya

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


I like to imagine there's a team of increasingly exasperated surgeons working to stitch all the kombatants back together in between rounds. *gurney rolls in* So you're saying this one had their face melted by acid, then exploded, then atomized by a space laser? I don't get paid enough for this poo poo.

spit on my clit
Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747

exquisite tea posted:

I like to imagine there's a team of increasingly exasperated surgeons working to stitch all the kombatants back together in between rounds. *gurney rolls in* So you're saying this one had their face melted by acid, then exploded, then atomized by a space laser? I don't get paid enough for this poo poo.

just klone them, geez

Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

muscles like this! posted:

He looks like he's wearing someone else's face.

He's either a zombie or about to start asking for sugarwater.

Inco
Apr 3, 2009

I have been working out! My modem is broken and my phone eats half the posts I try to make, including all the posts I've tried to make here. I'll try this one more time.
I got Dandara in the most recent Humble Monthly and I'm really loving over corpse runs. They were fine in Dark Souls, but then every game ever decided they had to ape it and I'm just tired of it. Especially here, where the player's movement is extremely constrained, and not like Dark Souls where it's meant to be methodical and make the player cautious, this is "you can only move by jumping from surface to surface, only being able to land on specific areas on those surfaces, also you have to dodge a bunch of poo poo".

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Zanzibar Ham
Mar 17, 2009

You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.


Grimey Drawer
Yeah that poo poo always sucks. Had fun with Dandara otherwise, but even only dying maybe 3 times total that was aggravating.

e: actually there was one spot where I died a bunch, surely more than 3, but getting back my salt (heh) wasn't a problem there

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Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Finally picked up No Man's Sky for pretty cheap after hearing it's probably going to jump back up in price with a re-release before long. Generally having a fun time, it feels a lot like Stardew Valley In Space so it's mostly a good, chill time relaxing while watching or listening to something on the side.

I feel like the tuning's a bit off, though, like I have resource gathering and building in mind for regular stuff too often - especially for ship travel. It's getting better, but I feel like I'm having to stop and build up resources for launching my ship and using the warp drive slightly too often.

Also, for a game entirely built around resource gathering and exploration, I feel like it's a little too fast to get in your way on both fronts - you run out of item slots pretty quickly and it's weirdly slow/opaque to get more, so you spend a lot of time shuttling around to sell off stuff you've gathered to make room. It's way too fast to throw enemies at you for my taste, too, like all I want to do is land on this fresh new planet and run around for a while, but two seconds after I hop out of my ship there's a drone army hunting me down.

Still a lot of fun for now, I usually play these resource-focused games incessantly for a while then suddenly burn out on them so we'll see how it lasts.

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

Captain Hygiene posted:

Finally picked up No Man's Sky for pretty cheap after hearing it's probably going to jump back up in price with a re-release before long. Generally having a fun time, it feels a lot like Stardew Valley In Space so it's mostly a good, chill time relaxing while watching or listening to something on the side.

I feel like the tuning's a bit off, though, like I have resource gathering and building in mind for regular stuff too often - especially for ship travel. It's getting better, but I feel like I'm having to stop and build up resources for launching my ship and using the warp drive slightly too often.

Also, for a game entirely built around resource gathering and exploration, I feel like it's a little too fast to get in your way on both fronts - you run out of item slots pretty quickly and it's weirdly slow/opaque to get more, so you spend a lot of time shuttling around to sell off stuff you've gathered to make room. It's way too fast to throw enemies at you for my taste, too, like all I want to do is land on this fresh new planet and run around for a while, but two seconds after I hop out of my ship there's a drone army hunting me down.

Still a lot of fun for now, I usually play these resource-focused games incessantly for a while then suddenly burn out on them so we'll see how it lasts.

It's pretty easy to get rich and buy both resources and inventory space.

Riatsala
Nov 20, 2013

All Princesses are Tyrants

I'm playing Mutant Year Zero and enjoying the hell out of it. It really scratches the XCOM-style tactical itch while being it's own thing that I think I enjoy more than XCOM at the moment.

However, I'm a little disappointed that scaling enemy difficulty basically means giving enemies more health. It happens quickly, and there's not anything to distinguish a level 5 bad guy from a level 10 bad guy other than the fact that the level 10 badguy has twice as much health. This becomes a bit of a problem because your weapons don't really scale up in the same way, and while there's a neat ambush mechanic where you can pick off isolated goons without alerting the main horde, it gets difficult to put out enough damage to kill them in a single turn with the limited and progressively less useful stealth weapons available.

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Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:

It's pretty easy to get rich and buy both resources and inventory space.

I'm getting there on the rich part, I just feel like the game is pretty tightlipped about buying more space. Like, I only randomly found how to buy inventory space for my suit, and I still have no idea how to upgrade my ship storage space after a few days in the game.

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