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Jones Day was sued for gender discrimination. The complaint highlights conduct that is ubiquitous across major law firms. Maybe this will finally cause a change in big firm culture? https://twitter.com/gokpkd/status/1113522506567159820
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Sab0921 posted:Maybe this will finally cause a change in big firm culture? Lol. Nothing will force a change in big firm culture except multiple large jury verdicts. And even then the real change will be that firms get better at further hiding the behavior behind coded references to hitting hours and commitment to the firm and commitment to the client. And bringing in business and building client relationships.
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Apr 5, 2019 17:58
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The change will be hiring fewer women or the “right kind of women”
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Apr 5, 2019 18:21
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Sab0921 posted:Jones Day was sued for gender discrimination. The complaint highlights conduct that is ubiquitous across major law firms. Maybe this will finally cause a change in big firm culture? Is Jones Day the one with the fucky black box bonus structure?
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Apr 5, 2019 18:42
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Vox Nihili posted:Is Jones Day the one with the fucky black box bonus structure? yep
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Apr 5, 2019 19:20
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Phil Moscowitz posted:The change will be hiring fewer women or the “right kind of women” "Team players only."
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Apr 5, 2019 21:10
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Sab0921 posted:Maybe this will finally cause a change in big firm culture? Aprils Fools Day was Monday, dude. lol
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Apr 5, 2019 21:14
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Mr. Kurtz posted:"Team players only." Someday women will reach a critical mass at Firms and the Businesses that retain them. It will be a bad day for scummy guys and I look forward to it.
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Apr 5, 2019 21:21
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spoiler alert: the women who make it to the top will be the same dead-eyed soulless monsters as the men who made it to the top and nothing will change
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Apr 5, 2019 21:42
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Soothing Vapors posted:spoiler alert: the women who make it to the top will be the same dead-eyed soulless monsters as the men who made it to the top and nothing will change Coming from a country where women are extremely well represented in the field and even in top tier law firms, I can confirm that apperances have changed, substance has not. I also don't give a poo poo because I'm never taking a job at Corporate Hell World Soul Suck LLC because even collecting unemployment beats wanting to suck start a shotgun after six months. Not that they'd hire me anyway, I'm a radical after all. Not that they are hiring anyway because lol lawyer jobs. My stance is very principled and totally inconsequential, just the way I like it.
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Apr 5, 2019 22:49
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Soothing Vapors posted:spoiler alert: the women who make it to the top will be the same dead-eyed soulless monsters as the men who made it to the top and nothing will change Maybe somewhat less sexual harassment??
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Apr 6, 2019 00:09
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Nice piece of fish posted:Coming from a country where women are extremely well represented in the field and even in top tier law firms, I can confirm that apperances have changed, substance has not. I also don't give a poo poo because I'm never taking a job at Corporate Hell World Soul Suck LLC because even collecting unemployment beats wanting to suck start a shotgun after six months. Not that they'd hire me anyway, I'm a radical after all. Not that they are hiring anyway because lol lawyer jobs. My stance is very principled and totally inconsequential, just the way I like it. Imagine being in a country where you can afford to live on unemployment.
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Apr 6, 2019 07:19
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Vox Nihili posted:Maybe somewhat less sexual harassment?? Possibly for the few women who are in established positions of power. I doubt they will lift a finger to help out someone like a paralegal or intern.
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Apr 6, 2019 07:39
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nm posted:Imagine being in a country where you can afford to live on unemployment. Well, I mean it loving sucks and is no better than barely tiding you over until you get a job. And the right wing fuckers will take care of all that in good order, so you're eventually well below the poverty line while unemployed. Fuckers do the old regular song and dance with defunding, cuts, "starve the beast" while lying through their teeth about it all, and unfortunately no democracy is without its fair share of idiots, and down the toilet the spiral goes. My personal theory is that this coincided with the fall of the sovjet union, since the capitalists now don't have any scary boogeyman to remind them the proles might rise up and demonstrate that their luxury condos are not defensible positions. That for absolutely sure was a thing over here, we literally had a left-wing party founded on the basic principle of armed insurrection against the government to establish complete state control over industry. Too bad is was too impolite to work. But don't you worry about it, we're getting to where unemployment is a straight shoot to poverty soon. I'm sure of it.
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Apr 6, 2019 08:54
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Gearing up to take the bar in July! Kill me I'm more excited that I'm trying to get published, but that process almost costs as much as applying for the bar + barbri Phi230 fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Apr 6, 2019 |
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Apr 6, 2019 17:27
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Nice piece of fish posted:Well, I mean it loving sucks and is no better than barely tiding you over until you get a job. And the right wing fuckers will take care of all that in good order, so you're eventually well below the poverty line while unemployed. Fuckers do the old regular song and dance with defunding, cuts, "starve the beast" while lying through their teeth about it all, and unfortunately no democracy is without its fair share of idiots, and down the toilet the spiral goes. From work houses to a proper welfare state and back to work houses in a bit over a century. Nice going modern world.
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Nice piece of fish posted:
My theory is that the cold war forced the US to start giving a crap about its people so we wouldn't look bad in that area compared to the Soviets. Then the Soviet Union collapsed and the Russians did an end run, beating the US back to the Gilded Age. And it's not like China has to give a crap about it's people for at least another 25-30 years or so.
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Apr 6, 2019 20:50
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Phi230 posted:Gearing up to take the bar in July! Getting published in your law review should be free.
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Apr 6, 2019 22:39
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Roger_Mudd posted:Someday women will reach a critical mass at Firms and the Businesses that retain them. It will be a bad day for scummy guys and I look forward to it.
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Apr 7, 2019 04:31
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My firm has made women partners who were at the time of the vote out on a full length maternity leave at the time, so it is getting better in some places.
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Apr 7, 2019 12:11
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Sab0921 posted:Getting published in your law review should be free. My school's law review doesn't publish from our student body (only people in law review get to publish). They publish our faculty, law review members, and people from other schools. I ended up submitting my article to three different writing competitions
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Apr 7, 2019 16:46
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the article i got published in law school gets cited every so often, which is cool but uh it is always cited for factual points. i did zero factual research, every fact was cited to somewhere else. if you cite to my article for a factual point instead of the underlying article i cited, all you're doing is adding in potential error  well anyway i'm still a published cited author go me
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Apr 7, 2019 20:56
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Phi230 posted:My school's law review doesn't publish from our student body (only people in law review get to publish). They publish our faculty, law review members, and people from other schools. Good luck with the bar exam - it's only April though, entirely too early to be thinking about it - take a trip or spend some time getting drunk with your friends before you join our ranks of clinically depressed addicts.
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Apr 8, 2019 01:39
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My firm got sued for sexual harassment once, but it was a woman who was doing the harassing. Very progressive. E: alleged harassing gvibes fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Apr 8, 2019 |
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Apr 8, 2019 01:47
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Sab0921 posted:Good luck with the bar exam - it's only April though, entirely too early to be thinking about it - take a trip or spend some time getting drunk with your friends before you join our ranks of clinically depressed addicts. This is the correct approach. Put that poo poo out of your mind until you start with the prep courses (besides signing up and everything, of course).
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Apr 8, 2019 03:23
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evilweasel posted:the article i got published in law school gets cited every so often, which is cool I’m phoneposting but this phenomenon was one of the things I researched extensively in real grad school. E.g. https://www.bmj.com/content/339/bmj.b2680 It’s one of the only areas law can be a bit better in academic practices than the main academy.
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Apr 8, 2019 06:05
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I was too busy getting busy for law review.
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Apr 8, 2019 22:21
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Finished Book 3 of the Stormlight Archives, so its time for you guys to pony up some new reading recommendations. Also, if you haven't checkout out the Broken Earth series (Book 1 - The Fifth Season, by NK Jemisin) this is your reminder to do so.
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Apr 8, 2019 22:48
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blarzgh posted:Finished Book 3 of the Stormlight Archives, so its time for you guys to pony up some new reading recommendations. Enjoying The Black Company, by Glen Cook. Also sort of low-key jonesing for some Honor Harrington (David Weber). And I recently read a couple of the Dresden Files books (Jim Butcher). I don't know how far I'll run with the series. The "I wear a duster and am dying breed of chivalrous" feels very... goon-y to me in a way that makes it difficult to overlook. Alaemon fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Apr 8, 2019 |
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Apr 8, 2019 23:36
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Perdido Street Station is pretty good, even if it takes a little while to get going.
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Apr 8, 2019 23:39
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Not sci-fi, but I’m reading The Paper Menagerie book of short stories by Ken Liu (translated books 1 and 3 of Three Body) and it’s excellent. I said not sci fi but some of the stories are.
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Apr 8, 2019 23:39
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blarzgh posted:Finished Book 3 of the Stormlight Archives, so its time for you guys to pony up some new reading recommendations. Give Naomi Novik’s Uprooted a go. (Obligatory Craft Sequence recommendation if you haven’t read it yet, Gladstone does good magic as law as magic in a way that’s enjoyable to actual lawyers.)
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Kalman posted:Give Naomi Novik’s Uprooted a go. The Craft Sequence is solid. I like how it deals both with systems and the people said systems grind between their wheels; this without being as dehumanized and bleak as stuff by KJ Parker. I recommended it before I think but I'll give a shout out to the series which begins with "A City of Stairs".
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Apr 9, 2019 00:39
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Arcturas posted:Perdido Street Station is pretty good, even if it takes a little while to get going. I'd also second its sequel, The Scar. I was ambivalent on the third book (Iron Council) but I didn't dislike it.
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Apr 9, 2019 01:27
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Alaemon posted:Enjoying The Black Company, by Glen Cook. Dresden is totally Butcher's Mary Sue. Enjoy the books anyway.
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Apr 9, 2019 02:34
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joat mon posted:Dresden is totally Butcher's Mary Sue. Enjoy the books anyway. The writing does improve significantly over the course of the series, at least. The first couple books are rooooough.
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Apr 9, 2019 03:01
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In which lawyers continue to ruin their lives over EVE Online.
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Apr 9, 2019 14:21
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Three immediate impressions: Maritime law Gold fringe I didn't know non-albino non-dead people got that pale.
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Apr 9, 2019 14:33
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Ok, so here is the list: - The Black Company, by Glen Cook - The Dresden Files books, by Jim Butcher - The Paper Menagerie, by Ken Liu - Uprooted, by Naomi Novik - The Craft Sequence Archives, bu Max Gladstone - The Divine Cities Series, by Robert Jackson Bennett - The Broken Earth Trilogy, by NK Jemisin - The Three Body Problem, Cixin Liu - The Stormlight Archives, Brandon Sanderson Prior Lists and Recommendations: - Russo, Ship of Fools - Children of Time, Adrian Tchaikovsky - Blindsight, Peter Watts - Red Rising Trilogy, Pierce Brown - Forever War, Joe Haldeman - Under the Banner of Heaven, Jon Krakauer [Non-fiction; Muder, History, Religion] - Stories of Your Life and Others, Ted Chiang - The Gameshouse, Claire North - The First Fifteen Live of Harry August, Claire North (or whatever pseudonym she used) - Old Man's War, John Scalzi (The rest of the series sucks) - The Aubrey–Maturin series, Ptrick O'Brian - Hull Zero Three, Greg Bear - The Forge of God, Greg Bear - Imperial Radch Series, Ann Leckie - Hyperion, Dan Simmons (skip the sequels) - Elantris, Brandon Sanderson Yes, I went back and searched out post histories, what of it. Also, huge shout out to Nice Piece of Fish for the Three Body Problem recommendation, and RIP Mastershakeman for Sanderson's Stormlight Archives!
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Eminent Domain posted:This is the correct approach. Put that poo poo out of your mind until you start with the prep courses (besides signing up and everything, of course). Yeah, my friend spent all summer playing Civ 4 until like, a week before the exam. He spent that week stressed out and crazy, which I would not recommend, but on the other hand, he passed on the first try, and there's no reward for 100%...
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