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There have been larger sales of WMR in the past, so who knows if this means anything. My cousin got an Acer one for $150 new back in December.
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Kazy posted:There have been larger sales of WMR in the past, so who knows if this means anything. My cousin got an Acer one for $150 new back in December. If Oculus and Valve actually commit to heavy marketing of their new PC headsets, nevermind whatever Oculus absolutely will have planned for the Quest leading up to and at around its launch, WMR headsets in their current iterations may as well not exist for the next few months until the marketing campaigns die down. Hadlock posted:Probably trying to burn up inventory ahead of two new halo headsets + one well marketed midrange headset. I've never not regretted buying silver tier stuff on fire sale because their sales department does way more opposition research than a bunch of sweaty nerds on a forum and they know what's coming around the corner. Agreed on both counts. I thought the Odyssey+ was weird/noteworthy because usually the hot new iteration usually gets spared from these kinds of deep discounts on an entire product line when they occur only a few months after release. Outside of it being a colossal trash fire of a product, of course. Neddy Seagoon fucked around with this message at 12:55 on Apr 10, 2019 |
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Apr 10, 2019 12:53
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Shine posted:Reminder that driving sims in VR are loving amazing. I hopped back on Dirt Rally after getting an analog handbrake, and goddamn this game is so loving good. Can't wait until they add VR support to the sequel.
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Apr 10, 2019 16:39
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ShadowHawk posted:Is there a realistic driving sim where I could teach someone how to use a manual transmission? City Car Driving, but it's a janky russian game and probably runs like poo poo in VR. Alternatively, euro truck?
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ShadowHawk posted:Is there a realistic driving sim where I could teach someone how to use a manual transmission? I can't really imagine this being useful to a learning driver. Changing gears is a mostly tactile experience - without the pedals and gear handle and the variable resistance they provide I can't imagine it'd be much of a facsimile of actually changing gears.
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Hellsau posted:It seems like VR streaming is one of the few situations where it might be worth the immense trouble to arrange a two-PC streaming setup. these days you'll be able to just buy a 32 core amd box and not do that anyway tho
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As someone who learned how to drive manual after doing it in video games, you can't learn properly even when a wheel, shifter and pedals. You have to feel the clutch bite and the revs drop.
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ShadowHawk posted:Is there a realistic driving sim where I could teach someone how to use a manual transmission? live for speed works great for me. it's f2p for the basic cars which is all you need if you just want that. Cojawfee posted:As someone who learned how to drive manual after doing it in video games, you can't learn properly even when a wheel, shifter and pedals. You have to feel the clutch bite and the revs drop.
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Cojawfee posted:As someone who learned how to drive manual after doing it in video games, you can't learn properly even when a wheel, shifter and pedals. You have to feel the clutch bite and the revs drop. Agreed. You can understand the mechanics of it but to really get it you gotta stall out a half dozen times in embarrassing fashion
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Truga posted:not really? i played a lot of LFS while doing my car license and i feel like it helped a bit. obviously it's not 1:1 because there's no force feedback on the clutch, but literally nothing is, every time you change to a new car you need to get the feel for the new clutch anyway so eh. You can learn how to move the stick around and push the pedals in, but that's the easy part. You can learn how to do that simply by imagining it. The hard part is engaging the clutch without stalling. Nothing will prepare you for that besides getting in a real car and doing it.
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But you have to do that in a car sim too?
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Truga posted:But you have to do that in a car sim too? Is there something we could give a beginner driver to actually help them learn? I'm thinking less "racing game" and more "how flight sims are actually useful to aspiring pilots"
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Very high end pedals simulate clutch bite point, but I'm guessing thats not what we're dealing with here.
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ShadowHawk posted:What actually is available in the state of the art car sims these days? Do pedals have force feedback based on the state of the simulated car engine? Is there a clutch pedal at all? Truga posted:obviously it's not 1:1 because there's no force feedback on the clutch, but literally nothing is, every time you change to a new car you need to get the feel for the new clutch anyway so eh. as for your second question, there's not anything like that I think. the lfs game i mentioned has a parking lot track you can litter with cones and fences to make a polygon, or download a premade one, but there's nobody there to yell at you if you forget to turn on a blinker when turning or somesuch, so you'd still need a live instructor. also, a 3 pedal + shifter wheel actually costs money. i'm still using a logitech g25 i bought gently caress knows when and it's great but it was by far the cheapest too iirc and it cost like 300 bux with all included. Jim Silly-Balls posted:Very high end pedals simulate clutch bite point, but I'm guessing thats not what we're dealing with here.
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So Vacation Simulator is out now, anyone tried it? Is it any good? According to Steam reviews it seems a bit mediocre, not as good as Job Simulator
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Truga posted:if anything, i'd argue it's harder doing it in a game precisely due to the lack of force feedback on the clutch. i haven't stalled a car irl in years, i still do sometimes in lfs when i'm trying to drive out of the pitstop garage since you can't just floor it there.
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BMan posted:City Car Driving, Alternatively, euro truck? Honestly if they are new to driving you should absolutely have them spend an hour doing euro truck So many people just cut in front of a semi truck and expect them to be able to not crush them from behind if they have to stop suddenly I've not driven a semi myself but I've hauled a couple of 10 ton loads and it's obvious many people just think everything handles like a Honda Civic because that's all they've ever driven
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Truga posted:do any games actually support that poo poo though? i'm sure actual professional simulators do, but there's no cheap proper car sims like with flight sims i think... Most of the pedals that have adjustable bite points come with software to make it work with the major sims. Pro sims are basically the consumer grade sims with extra bells and whistles that race teams need, the physics simulation is the same between both. No need to maintain two physics engines and also backhandedly say “the consumer version isn’t as accurate”
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Zero VGS posted:I wonder how long the controllers will last, come to think of it. The Touch controllers last weeks while the WMR controllers run out really fast, so I wonder where these will fall. This is because WMR controller LEDs are always on, whereas Touch controller LEDs are synchronized with the camera exposures and are only on for a fraction of a second. It really adds up over time.
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https://www.t3.com/amp/news/ps5-set-for-wireless-psvr-headset-with-powerful-next-gen-graphics Sony filed some VR patents earlier this month. PSVR2 might have eye tracking.
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Patents mean less than nothing. If you want to have a really bad time check out the Index reddit (I could just stop this sentence here) where it's nothing but threads of people misreading patents to overhype themselves for that thing.
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I thought this was kind of neat to see, a list of the games confirmed so far that have cross buy with the PC and Quest: https://uploadvr.com/rift-quest-cross-buy-games/ Theres the things you would expect and probably come free with it like robo recall, or dead and buried, but it was interesting to see how many of the sort of non pack in bigger games are there. It seems like they're really encouraging the ability to cross buy which is fantastic if that becomes the standard. The list of confirmed so far: Robo Recall Dead and Buried 1 (and 2) Dance Central VR Apex Construct Face your Fears 2 I Expect you to Die Journey of the Gods Moss Orbus VR Shadow Point Sports Scramble The Climb Ultrawings Apparently the Beat Saber devs haven't decided yet to allow cross buy or not which... I guess I can understand since its such a big seller.
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homeless snail posted:Patents mean less than nothing. If you want to have a really bad time check out the Index reddit (I could just stop this sentence here) where it's nothing but threads of people misreading patents to overhype themselves for that thing. Patents are entirely the truth and definitely means they will be manufactured, which is why we have had flying cars since 1959 https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/8c/37/f6/9e1a4754573f88/US3090581.pdf
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Tom Guycot posted:I thought this was kind of neat to see, a list of the games confirmed so far that have cross buy with the PC and Quest: This list initially listed Beat Saber without actually checking with anyone, and everything we've seen about Sports Scramble (including its own site) indicates that it's a Quest exclusive. The rest seems to check out, but I'm not inclined to consider this particularly definitive.
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Tom Guycot posted:Apparently the Beat Saber devs haven't decided yet to allow cross buy or not which... I guess I can understand since its such a big seller. It's not really going to make that big a cut into their sales considering most of the people buying the thing won't be people who already own VR headsets.
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jaete posted:So Vacation Simulator is out now, anyone tried it? Is it any good? According to Steam reviews it seems a bit mediocre, not as good as Job Simulator I would like to hear about this too. I tried Job Simulator late into my VR ownership and I refunded it within an hour. It was bog-standard "grab this thing, put it in the obvious spot" and I didn't even think it was particularly funny. I mean, beyond the general "robots not understanding humans" they barely even had any jokes, they just put a few "funny" labels on the VR props and kinda leaned on the novelty of it. I was hoping Vacation Simulator would punch it up a little now that they had the general engine and design worked out.
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Job simulator is the first thing I had my friends play when they first tried VR because it's great at introducing the "use your hands for stuff" game play, but it's not a game that anyone who has spent more than 15 minutes with VR should ever play. I can't imagine Vacation Simulator would be any different.
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8one6 posted:Job simulator is the first thing I had my friends play when they first tried VR because it's great at introducing the "use your hands for stuff" game play, but it's not a game that anyone who has spent more than 15 minutes with VR should ever play. I can't imagine Vacation Simulator would be any different. My 13 year old daughter thinks job simulator is the best. Every time I see her playing VR it’s that and I don’t get it because I actually have good games and that’s what she chooses. Actually she does play one other game, and that’s Blade & Sorcery which she is disturbingly good at.
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GutBomb posted:My 13 year old daughter thinks job simulator is the best. Every time I see her playing VR it’s that and I don’t get it because I actually have good games and that’s what she chooses. She has two paths she can take here, really, and only one leads to boring mundanity
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Blade Runner posted:She has two paths she can take here, really, and only one leads to boring mundanity They could combine and lead to middle-management.
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I feel like job sim is probably great if you have never used VR before. If you have, it has to coast on its humor, because you’re used to all of the things you can do in a standing simulator already.
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I've hard It has a 10 foot charging cable you can use while playing if 4 hours isn't enough for you.
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Job simulator is crack for kids because it gives them a shot at something they can’t do yet, work at a job that has no consequences.
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Yeah its really not a surprise, just remember how many children's toys are based around what adults do. Cooking sets, power tools, toy cell phones and construction equipment... kids love to play grown up in safe fun ways.
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GutBomb posted:My 13 year old daughter thinks job simulator is the best. Every time I see her playing VR it’s that and I don’t get it because I actually have good games and that’s what she chooses. My daughter is the same way, my son like all VR games including Job/vacation simulator. I picked up vacation purely for them since they like job simulator, I played it for about 15 minutes to check it out and its pretty similar to job simulator if that is your thing.
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l still like Job Simulator. It does a good job giving you a sense or presence. The interactions are well thought out. And going HAM on a cubicle is cathartic.
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Just going to leave this here. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/feelreal/feelreal/description
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