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Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.

Orv posted:

No no what I mean by that is that because of it working that way they'll have to offer the DLC on Steam. I believe it's also some level of Steam policy on third-party DLC that you can't offer cross-client/store purchases on Steam.

Ah. That's more reassuring then, assuming they keep their word and don't find some bullshit reason to weasel out of their obligations.

Gwyrgyn Blood posted:

Less than 2 weeks until release now y'all :toot:
Yes - it's just around the corner (again) and I'm looking forward to actually getting to play.

They even made a handy dandy map for quick reference for the beta:

Donno who came up with these weird rear end times but I'm not going to complain since I essentially get to play the beta for an extra day.

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SubNat
Nov 27, 2008

Gwyrgyn Blood posted:

- You get a unique decoration for playing in the open beta.

Playing the game a bunch just to reset on launch day isn't super appealing.
(Especially since I'll probably be binging the game due to it arriving smack dab in the Easter Vacation. )

But I wonder how much you need to play to unlock this.
Just boot up the game and that's it?

After all, knowing how the game works is just going to make the campaign significantly worse as they slowly, slowly plod through explaining mechanics you figured out during the first 5 min of the previous beta.

Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002

SubNat posted:

Playing the game a bunch just to reset on launch day isn't super appealing.
(Especially since I'll probably be binging the game due to it arriving smack dab in the Easter Vacation. )

But I wonder how much you need to play to unlock this.
Just boot up the game and that's it?

After all, knowing how the game works is just going to make the campaign significantly worse as they slowly, slowly plod through explaining mechanics you figured out during the first 5 min of the previous beta.
Yes they say you just need to play at any time during the open beta is all. I'll probably grab it and give multiplayer a quick test and to see how the performance is now. Max recommended specs are pretty low so I wonder if it's running a lot better than the closed beta.

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.
Additionally, it sounds like there's both a campaign and endless modes in the beta (and actual game). So unlike 2205, which was basically just one long tutorial, you can choose to jump right into a map and do whatever you please instead of taking things step-by-step.

In all honesty I don't think I've ever played the campaign in any Anno game before (aside from 2205 where you had no choice). Just endless map after endless map.

Mazz
Dec 12, 2012

Orion, this is Sperglord Actual.
Come on home.
the 1404 scenarios were pretty good, i didn't like 2070s campaign from what i remember of it

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.
Is the beta open for everyone or just those with preorders? I 100% refuse to preorder a game no matter how hyped I am for it, but I’m still keen to check out the beta

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.
No, the beta is open to anyone regardless of you pre-ordering the game or not. You just have to get it through the Uplay store.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY

Mazz posted:

the 1404 scenarios were pretty good, i didn't like 2070s campaign from what i remember of it

I remember a dam broke and that's about it.

Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002

Psychotic Weasel posted:

Additionally, it sounds like there's both a campaign and endless modes in the beta (and actual game). So unlike 2205, which was basically just one long tutorial, you can choose to jump right into a map and do whatever you please instead of taking things step-by-step.

In all honesty I don't think I've ever played the campaign in any Anno game before (aside from 2205 where you had no choice). Just endless map after endless map.

The 1404 campaign is pretty alright. It is more or less a big glorified tutorial, but every map is jam packed with little side quests and fun characters and things to do, so it's pretty enjoyable to do.

1800's looks pretty similar from the little bit I eyeballed, but we'll have to see how meaty it is. Apparently once you finish it, it transitions into being free-play mode. Man that questbook tracker is so bad though.

Polish
Jul 5, 2007

I touch myself at night
I have never played an Anno game but I haven been following this for some time to scratch my itch for Banished. I will check out the open beta, but is this similar to Banished?

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

Polish posted:

I have never played an Anno game but I haven been following this for some time to scratch my itch for Banished. I will check out the open beta, but is this similar to Banished?

not really, banished is sort of a roguelike townbuilder, whereas the anno games are more of a logistics management simulator with some combat

dawn of man is pretty close to banished

Brutakas
Oct 10, 2012

Farewell, marble-dwellers!
There was a brief Q&A about multiplayer stuff on the dev blog: https://www.anno-union.com/en/happy-little-link/

quote:

FerudaFarstaria
When we add friends from our friends list. Does this include the Steam friend list and Uplay? Or do you have to find your friends in the game, and add them to your friends list? I’d really like to know if this does link to friends lists in Steam, and Uplay.
Answer: Anno lists steam friends as well as your Uplay friends. In case you invite someone from you friend list, Anno does automatically select the right backend (Steam or UPlay) for the invitation and also receive and handle the invitations from both systems.

Drake-1503
Does that mean that saved multiplayer matched can be continued with different players? That would mean it would be possible to create a staged savegame with already established cities instead of an empty map.
Answer: You are able to continue mutliplayer savegames even if the original players are not available anymore. When new players join, they can “overtake” an empire and continue to progress and expand with that game state. While it is technically possible to create scenarios that way, you would need to have a dedicated player for every single party as you cannot take control over two or more empires.

I'm curious if the MP saves would allow for resuming with more players than you initially started with (assuming there were enough empires in play).

Mayveena
Dec 27, 2006

People keep vandalizing my ID photo; I've lodged a complaint with HR
The beta is available for download on the Epic store. I couldn't find it on Uplay but it's supposed to be there as well.

https://t.co/Oj0ejNblKi

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.
The pre-load for the open beta should now be live according to some. It won't be on Steam but you should be able to find it in Uplay under the 'free games' section. Won't be home for several hours so I can't confirm myself just yet. Again, a pre-order is not needed if you want to play the beta.

Download itself is about 20GB. Apparently some streamers already have access now, it should unlock sometime tomorrow for everyone else (reference the times in the map a few posts above).

Along with some information on the beta there's been a few other tidbits released over the past few days. Notably that while the open beta will require an online connection to play, the full game will not. You will apparently be able to still play a singleplayer session offline if you want. Multiplayer will obviously still require a connection to work.

They also answered some questions regarding microtransactions. There won't be any in the game (at least at launch, sure that's subject to change) and instead they'll have what they've done in recent games where the extra decorative items and doodads can be unlocked using uplay points. These points are often aquired by unlocking achievements and whatnot.

Just ~1 more day before the beta depending where you live. Can't wait.

SubNat
Nov 27, 2008

Psychotic Weasel posted:

They also answered some questions regarding microtransactions. There won't be any in the game (at least at launch, sure that's subject to change) and instead they'll have what they've done in recent games where the extra decorative items and doodads can be unlocked using uplay points. These points are often aquired by unlocking achievements and whatnot.

Just ~1 more day before the beta depending where you live. Can't wait.

Might end up like 2070, where there were quite a few smaller DLC out and about.
A couple of ~1usd ones to unlock content you'd get from world events you might have missed for example, and a couple others for additional missions or vessels.
( https://anno2070.fandom.com/wiki/DLC )
(And also the expansion, of course.)

Though I guess unlocking event content isn't likely, since there's been no trace or hint as to them adding scenarios, or events.
It's something I really hope they'll incorporate in a patch, or in a possible content expansion. Lack of scenarios was a massive downfall of 2205, and it's a bit sad they might be excluded again.

Maybe they're not feeling they can reconcile it with the multi-session gameplay? It's a huge omission from 1404 and 2070, in any case.

Buller
Nov 6, 2010
Not gonna play the beta but excited to hear if people think the game is good.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
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Was wondering if pre-ordering on Steam would screw me out of the Beta but apparently not since it's just a free download which is cool. It's right in time for my weekend too.

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.

SubNat posted:

Might end up like 2070, where there were quite a few smaller DLC out and about.
A couple of ~1usd ones to unlock content you'd get from world events you might have missed for example, and a couple others for additional missions or vessels.
( https://anno2070.fandom.com/wiki/DLC )
(And also the expansion, of course.)

Though I guess unlocking event content isn't likely, since there's been no trace or hint as to them adding scenarios, or events.
It's something I really hope they'll incorporate in a patch, or in a possible content expansion. Lack of scenarios was a massive downfall of 2205, and it's a bit sad they might be excluded again.

Maybe they're not feeling they can reconcile it with the multi-session gameplay? It's a huge omission from 1404 and 2070, in any case.

I don't recall offhand if they've mentioned anything specific to events or the global elections like they had in 2070 or 2205. I never paid much attention to them previously to be honest, maybe a lot of people felt the same way so they're not bothering with them this time. With the ability to play offline I suspect you'd be cut off from them anyway.

They've talked about The Anarchist DLC that will be coming sometime after the launch and it somehow having a story of it's own but I don't know how that will factor into the game overall. They also mentioned adding some multiplayer hotseat mode or something post-launch so they do have plans but there's no telling how in-depth they are. They dropped 2205 like a bad habit after it was clear sales and reception were lukewarm so maybe they dialed back their plans accordingly here.


Also, the beta pre-load is indeed available. Should be right smack in your face as soon as you open Uplay. Its a 18.21GB download and needs 30GB to unpack. The beta times have also changed, instead of the times posted in the map at the top of this page the beta begins globally at 20:00UTC on April 11th. That's about 4 hours sooner than originally planned.

Psychotic Weasel fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Apr 10, 2019

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.
Note that if the open beta pre-load isn't appearing for you, trying logging in via this link: https://register.ubisoft.com/anno-1800/

Log in with your Uplay account data and it should add the open beta to your uplay library.

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

did anyone get their keys from greenman yet? making me a little nervous that i still don't have the game in my Ubisoft account

SubNat
Nov 27, 2008

boar guy posted:

did anyone get their keys from greenman yet? making me a little nervous that i still don't have the game in my Ubisoft account

Don't worry, I've bought from GMG a bunch of times. It's not uncommon for keys to be sent out on release day, or right before. You'll probably get it towards the end of this week, or on monday.
(Though larger titles with preloads on steam and the like often got keys sent out a few days ahead of time, but I doubt this applies for that. )

(Though this time I just bought it on uPlay, since the -20% rebate in exchange for 100 coins works on preorders in Europe. And buying the game gave me back ~40 coins again.)

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

webmeister posted:

Note that if the open beta pre-load isn't appearing for you, trying logging in via this link: https://register.ubisoft.com/anno-1800/

Log in with your Uplay account data and it should add the open beta to your uplay library.

It looks like the open beta is a separate download to the full game. Kind of annoying.

Mayveena
Dec 27, 2006

People keep vandalizing my ID photo; I've lodged a complaint with HR
The official pages are still showing the open beta times as shown in the picture. Does anyone have a link to the change to an earlier time?

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.
Odd, checking Uplay again this morning I see they've changed the banners. Yesterday one of them mentioned it being available from April 11th 20:00 UTC to April 14 19:00 UTC but today there's no mention of it anywhere, just a link to the FAQ. Guess it was a mistake and they've changed it back. Too bad.

Mayveena
Dec 27, 2006

People keep vandalizing my ID photo; I've lodged a complaint with HR

Psychotic Weasel posted:

Odd, checking Uplay again this morning I see they've changed the banners. Yesterday one of them mentioned it being available from April 11th 20:00 UTC to April 14 19:00 UTC but today there's no mention of it anywhere, just a link to the FAQ. Guess it was a mistake and they've changed it back. Too bad.

Ok thanks. No harm in checking earlier though :) . I was going to reschedule my day if the change was official, which is why I asked.

Mayveena
Dec 27, 2006

People keep vandalizing my ID photo; I've lodged a complaint with HR
Nvidia just released new drivers that support 1800 so if you are running an nvidia card I'd suggest you download them. Hopefully they won't break everything.

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

i wish this polish motherfucker that tries to steal my ubisoft account a few times a week would realize that with two factor authentication it ain't happening, just so i can stop getting the loving emails

The Bramble
Mar 16, 2004

I'm excited for this free trial beta for the weekend. After the disappointment of the last two games, I'll be basing my decision to buy this or not on how I feel about it from the beta. They must feel pretty confident about the game if they're giving people a 3-day free trial before it goes on sale.

Gadzuko
Feb 14, 2005

The Bramble posted:

I'm excited for this free trial beta for the weekend. After the disappointment of the last two games, I'll be basing my decision to buy this or not on how I feel about it from the beta. They must feel pretty confident about the game if they're giving people a 3-day free trial before it goes on sale.

Based on the previous beta they have reason to be confident. It really feels like a solid successor to 1404. I enjoyed 2070 and was lukewarm on 2205 but 1800 seems like a return to form.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

The Bramble posted:

I'm excited for this free trial beta for the weekend. After the disappointment of the last two games, I'll be basing my decision to buy this or not on how I feel about it from the beta. They must feel pretty confident about the game if they're giving people a 3-day free trial before it goes on sale.

Imo this is the first Anno since 1404 that feels like it's a genuine sequel rather than a weird sci-fi spinoff.

by.a.teammate
Jun 27, 2007
theres nothing wrong with the word panties
So I was playing a bit of 2070 to get in the mood and I can't for the life of me work out why this trade route isn't working, I'm sure i'm being dumb but can't figure it out

https://imgur.com/fx8dN6m

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.

by.a.teammate posted:

So I was playing a bit of 2070 to get in the mood and I can't for the life of me work out why this trade route isn't working, I'm sure i'm being dumb but can't figure it out

https://imgur.com/fx8dN6m

I don't have 2070 installed on this computer so I can't go in and check, but as soon as you assign a route some ports, cargo and a ship it should begin to move automatically. If not, there's a pause/play button you can press that should get it to move. Beside that there should be a hand or something in the shape of a thumbs up. If there's a problem with the route I believe hovering over that should give you an indication of what's wrong.


But - the open beta just unlocked so you can all run over and begin playing that now. Enjoy the next 4 days!

vandalism
Aug 4, 2003
I'm 1.2 gb away from designing and creating a penis-shaped victorian socialist paradise.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
This is very good so far and I have just started a colony in the new world. What are the other two regions? not-Canada in the North and not-Australia in the south?

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

This is very good so far and I have just started a colony in the new world. What are the other two regions? not-Canada in the North and not-Australia in the south?

There are no other regions, at least not yet. The only regions that will be in the release are The Old World and The New World. There is speculation that future DLC will include additional regions but at the moment that's all it is; speculation.


Just finished burning a good 3 hours without realizing it. I'd still be playing if I didn't need to work so I could pay for things like electricity and the internet.

vandalism
Aug 4, 2003
This game is good. I wanna build on multiple islands but i'm not sure how to best manage my poo poo. I am just plopping down tons of stuff en masse. I kinda wanna start over and do one with a plan.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

SubNat posted:

After all, knowing how the game works is just going to make the campaign significantly worse as they slowly, slowly plod through explaining mechanics you figured out during the first 5 min of the previous beta.

I am actually playing the campaign and they have a setting that makes it so they do not explain mechanics. Like, its still a glorified tutorial but they do not painstakingly go through mechanics; They give you an objective (Which, admitably is mostly 'build this, stupid' at this point) and it is up to you to figure out how to go about it, which is good if you had ever played an Anno game before.

Unlucky7 fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Apr 12, 2019

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
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Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



They also give you the most PUNCHABLE villain. Like he makes Thor Strinberg from 2070 look personable and nice. That alone makes you want to win.

by.a.teammate
Jun 27, 2007
theres nothing wrong with the word panties

Psychotic Weasel posted:

I don't have 2070 installed on this computer so I can't go in and check, but as soon as you assign a route some ports, cargo and a ship it should begin to move automatically. If not, there's a pause/play button you can press that should get it to move. Beside that there should be a hand or something in the shape of a thumbs up. If there's a problem with the route I believe hovering over that should give you an indication of what's wrong.


But - the open beta just unlocked so you can all run over and begin playing that now. Enjoy the next 4 days!

I should just play the open beta but it's annoying me I can't find out why it won't work, I've got it green loading veg in one port then red dropping it off on my home base then added a ship. At first it was showing a red hand pointing down then I fiddled with the numbers it would pick up and drop off and now it always shows (even if I put it back to the original that before showed a red thumb down) a blue thumb midway but the ship just sits with the zzz above it, I've tried pausing and unpausing but it just won't start arghhhh!

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Asimov
Feb 15, 2016

I've had similar problems with trade routes but ultimately there is always something I'm doing wrong. Without more info it's hard to say what the root cause is but make sure to check:

- you didn't mix up red and green. no matter how many times I think I have it correct I sometimes confuse green and red with loading and unloading
- there is adequate room in both warehouses
- your ship has enough free cargo space
- the sea route to the warehouse isn't blocked by offshore fishing platforms, you need a little bit of space
- I think you set the "reserve" that will stay on your island and not be traded by Shift+Left Clicking on a product and then moving the slider. Set it to something like 10 so your islands will only keep quantity 10 in the warehouse and load the rest onto ships for transport to other islands

As a final troubleshooting step you can see if you can manually load product on your cargo ship, move it to the other island and manually drop off the product.

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