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Basic Chunnel posted:The Bright Session dudes broke down #s on podcast production costs https://hotpodnews.com/making-money-part-one/ Another paid podcast network? Yeah no thanks. I liked TBS but not enough to pay another $8 a month to keep listening.
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Another paid podcast network? Yeah no thanks. I liked TBS but not enough to pay another $8 a month to keep listening. Well, I was already paying $5/month in its Patreon, so I don’t have a problem with this. But it is getting cumbersome with how many different places there are to stream media.
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Jurgan posted:Well, I was already paying $5/month in its Patreon, so I don’t have a problem with this. But it is getting cumbersome with how many different places there are to stream media. That's my main issue. I seriously think that we're gonna get to a point of podcast network arms races where these stupid services are going to throw money at popular creators to build their network and before you know it you'll have to sub to like 3-5 different premium services you probably don't want and/or are redundant for a handful of podcasts, not to mention the outright annoyance of a number of individual apps to keep track of. Maybe I'm being overly cynical but I think this is a really crappy trend. And I don't mind stuff like Patreon, especially not for bonus shows, but this is the equivalent of, I dunno, Rusty Quill going through all of TMA and then saying "there'll be a season 6 but it's going behind a paywall forever". It's not that I don't get it or that they haven't earned a payday, but I still think it sucks. Edit: It's the same thing as video streaming service fatigue which I'm also getting except it's even dumber, because I'm not saying an audio drama isn't crazy work but like, you're paying, I dunno, 2/3 of a Netflix subscription for a drat podcast network with way less content on it and it's all audio. Edit 2: Also TBS has gone full Limetown. They had a hit podcast that was such a hit they're trying to create a full media empire out of it and the original podcast at best feels ancillary to these new pursuits and at worst doesn't exist anymore. SamuraiFoochs fucked around with this message at 10:23 on Apr 10, 2019 |
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Apr 10, 2019 10:00
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I understand wanting to get paid for your work but I'm absolutely not going to pay for a podcast subscription. I wouldn't be opposed to just buying the season for a flat cost but I absolutely will not pay $8/mo for a podcast
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Apr 10, 2019 11:07
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While the cost seems a bit high, I wouldn’t mind paying for podcasts, I already donate or Patreon to the ones I really value anyway. What I mind is listening to them through some new lovely app - make your poo poo work with Pocket Casts or no deal. Part of this is just that podcasts are built on an open standard, RSS, and the web is already way too proprietary. The last thing we need is to make podcasts into another drat closed ecosystem. Arcsech fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Apr 10, 2019 |
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Apr 10, 2019 15:33
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There’s a lot of VC money going toward consolidation and exclusivity, expect it to become the new standard. It was really something that Gimlet paved the way for, and Homecoming wasn’t even very good!
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Apr 10, 2019 15:41
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It takes a certain kind of delusion to say "you know how well radio is doing these days? well what if it was only marketed to internet nerds, and you needed to pay for it" and expect anyone but the most desperate to go along.
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Apr 10, 2019 15:53
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Arrhythmia posted:It takes a certain kind of delusion to say "you know how well radio is doing these days? well what if it was only marketed to internet nerds, and you needed to pay for it" and expect anyone but the most desperate to go along. It's not sustainable at all but venture capital is all about inflating new bubbles to see what doesn't pop. They might make a mess of the podcasting landscape but by the time it all collapses the money folks will be long gone and anyone with investment in the medium will be left to pick up the pieces.
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Apr 10, 2019 16:07
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Len posted:I understand wanting to get paid for your work but I'm absolutely not going to pay for a podcast subscription. I wouldn't be opposed to just buying the season for a flat cost but I absolutely will not pay $8/mo for a podcast This too. Make me buy a season, poo poo, but everything about the current setup is a massive pain in the rear end and I cannot properly verbalize how much I hate the fact that that's where it's going. Edit: I give 8/month to my favorite podcast. Why? Because it's a Patreon and the bonus material is worth it to me, not because they strongarmed it out of me. Also I love how Lauren Shippen says in that article that "TBS will always be free" as if that helps. It's like, no poo poo dumbass, but for one TBS is over, and for another even if it wasn't, it would turn into mediocre poo poo because all your efforts will go into the paid stuff. See also: Limetown. SamuraiFoochs fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Apr 10, 2019 |
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Apr 10, 2019 16:39
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Welp, as a Patreon subscriber I got access to tomorrow's Magnus ep early. Suffice it to say I horribly dread where this is now going.
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Apr 10, 2019 18:54
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AceOfFlames posted:Welp, as a Patreon subscriber I got access to tomorrow's Magnus ep early. Suffice it to say I horribly dread where this is now going. From a worry for the characters standpoint or a quality of the show standpoint?
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Apr 10, 2019 19:23
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SamuraiFoochs posted:From a worry for the characters standpoint or a quality of the show standpoint? the former. it's good.
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Apr 11, 2019 13:41
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This season of TMA is unbelievable.
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Apr 11, 2019 15:58
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I'm generally up on TMA but I don't care for the metaplot at all and it takes up more and more of the more and more infrequent MotW episodes
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Apr 11, 2019 16:17
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Basic Chunnel posted:I'm generally up on TMA but I don't care for the metaplot at all and it takes up more and more of the more and more infrequent MotW episodes Same. I feel we're in the minority but I think the metaplot sucks pretty bad (vis a vis my tastes, I recognize it's well executed) and the podcast has gone from my favorite, and absolutely must listen, to probably just top 5.
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Apr 11, 2019 23:09
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Now that the episode is out, I can say my dread is because they have touched upon MY personal fear as my post history in other subforums can attest.
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Apr 12, 2019 18:32
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I started The White Vault today because Martin told me to before this week's Magnus. Has anyone listened to it? I haven't followed the thread lately to see if its been discussed. It seems okay so far but I don't like their "security" guy's acting very much, and the sound effects make some things hard to hear, but I'm genuinely curious where it's going. It has a modern "At the Mountains of Madness" vibe to it.
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Apr 12, 2019 18:57
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It's good. That one guy never manages to bring his acting beyond the level of "sleepy Clint Eastwood" and I didn't find it particularly scary, but I enjoyed it.
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Apr 12, 2019 18:58
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Shame that some aren't enjoying the TMA metaplot, as I think the metaplot has led to some really great character moments. Although I think the primary plot itself isn't that great, how the plot has an impact on the ongoing characters I think is fantastic. theblackw0lf fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Apr 12, 2019 |
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Apr 12, 2019 18:59
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theblackw0lf posted:Shame that some aren't enjoying the TMA metaplot, as I think the metaplot has led to some really great character moments. TMA can do no wrong for me. I'm enjoying every second of it. The acting on the new guy leaves something to be desired, though..
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Apr 12, 2019 19:04
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New Leaf posted:I started The White Vault today because Martin told me to before this week's Magnus. Has anyone listened to it? I haven't followed the thread lately to see if its been discussed. It seems okay so far but I don't like their "security" guy's acting very much, and the sound effects make some things hard to hear, but I'm genuinely curious where it's going. It has a modern "At the Mountains of Madness" vibe to it. I don't mind it. The NoSleep guy is a bit of a bummer but the rest of the cast is pretty decent. I started Station Blue because someone pitched it on one of these podcasts and it's a thing. I'm almost done with season 1 and for me it's more bad than good. But I'll wait to see if it's just a rough start or going to continue being bad. I wish the Mars Corp/Bunker guys would put out more of something I enjoyed both of those. They're producing The Monster Hunters now which is okay but not as good as those other two
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The NoSleep guy has really, really improved since he started doing the NoSleep podcasts. Go back and listen to the first few hours of his narrating those- he was terrible. Overall I really like the white vault, and I'm really looking forward to season three. One question regarding late season two, did anybody else get the impression that the anomalously large lampreys they find and cook in the cave were meant to be the juvenile form of the monster?
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Pope Guilty posted:The NoSleep guy has really, really improved since he started doing the NoSleep podcasts. Go back and listen to the first few hours of his narrating those- he was terrible. No, my take was the Icelandic guy is being turned into one of the monsters. c.f. the way he complains about still being hungry no matter how many lampreys he eats.
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Apr 12, 2019 23:11
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New Leaf posted:TMA can do no wrong for me. I'm enjoying every second of it. The acting on the new guy leaves something to be desired, though.. I'm in the same boat. I have loved all of it.
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:I'm in the same boat. I have loved all of it. Same. I'm even okay with Peter Lucas's stilted delivery, since I think it kinda fits with the character. I recently relistened to some earlier episodes though, and it's amazing how far Jonny Sims has came as a narrator though.
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Apr 12, 2019 23:38
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cptn_dr posted:Same. I started the series from episode 1 while waiting for this season to start. The season 3 climax calls back to the angler fish from the very first episode and being aware of some of the tertiary characters early on makes their small appearances a lot more meaningful. However, I swear that he mistakenly calls Gerard “Jared” multiple times through the series, and having Mike and Michael existing as distinct characters was vexing.
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Apr 12, 2019 23:55
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I think the Gerard/Jared thing is Jonny's accent occasionally swallowing the second R rather than him using the wrong name.
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Yeah, in a lot of Commonwealth countries Gerard is usually pronounced "Jerred" rather than rhyming with "hard".
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cptn_dr posted:Same. Yeah, I'm modestly sure it's intentional - "inappropriately peppy but weirdly affectless" sounds like a specific note
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New Leaf posted:I started The White Vault today because Martin told me to before this week's Magnus. Has anyone listened to it? I haven't followed the thread lately to see if its been discussed. It seems okay so far but I don't like their "security" guy's acting very much, and the sound effects make some things hard to hear, but I'm genuinely curious where it's going. It has a modern "At the Mountains of Madness" vibe to it. I love it. The No Sleep dude is kind of grating at first because he's just not as good as the rest of the cast, but eventually he grows in to the part and ceases to be irritating.
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New Leaf posted:I started The White Vault today because Martin told me to before this week's Magnus. Has anyone listened to it? I haven't followed the thread lately to see if its been discussed. It seems okay so far but I don't like their "security" guy's acting very much, and the sound effects make some things hard to hear, but I'm genuinely curious where it's going. It has a modern "At the Mountains of Madness" vibe to it. The moment they said "intellectual horror fiction" I felt my skin crawl. Is it less pretentious and up itself as that genre makes me think it might be?
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Montalvo posted:The moment they said "intellectual horror fiction" I felt my skin crawl. Is it less pretentious and up itself as that genre makes me think it might be? Other than one guy's less than stellar acting, it's really not all that different than Magnus in terms of acting. The story is compelling and the sound quality and pacing are solid so far (on episode 7). If you like Magnus I'd say it's an absolute listen. And if you hate it you're not losing anything other than a few minutes of your time.
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Speaking if White Vault is anyone a Patron? They have a Patreon exclusive side series and I'm wondering if it's worth listening to
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Montalvo posted:The moment they said "intellectual horror fiction" I felt my skin crawl. Is it less pretentious and up itself as that genre makes me think it might be? It's not up its rear end. By that the writer means "i have only one native Anglophone character", "i put a lot of effort into making a fake creepy society" and "i really like mouth of madness"
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New Leaf posted:Other than one guy's less than stellar acting I thought of him as being "Clint-Eastwood-Canadian" and it got a little better. But not much. The insane thing to me is there's an interview with him after season one. Iguessthats... Just... Howhe... Tallllllllks. It's maddening!
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Ratatozsk posted:I started the series from episode 1 while waiting for this season to start. The season 3 climax calls back to the angler fish from the very first episode and being aware of some of the tertiary characters early on makes their small appearances a lot more meaningful. See IMO that makes it less creepy. EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED WOOOOO makes the whole thing that much less scary. TMA is absolutely stellar quality but I enjoy it so much less now than I used to.
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SamuraiFoochs posted:See IMO that makes it less creepy. EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED WOOOOO makes the whole thing that much less scary. See, I never understand this argument. You guys think dozens of completely disconnected incidents are more interesting than a vast interconnected cabal of forces seeking the destruction of the world that the overwhelming majority of the populace is oblivious to? Because the first seems like most could be the ramblings of crazy people..
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