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jesus WEP posted:When did the WWE start using the term WWE Universe, and did they immediately switch every single reference to the crowd/fans or did that happen gradually it was gradual at first they introduced the universal title and then they stopped saying the crowd and the audience and the viewers and started saying the universe. Does this mean technically the Universal champion is the People's champion since the universe to wwe are the people watching?
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I don't know the answer to the original question, but they were referring to fans exclusively as the WWE Universe years before there was a Universal title.
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Apr 12, 2019 19:59
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Looks like late 2008 e. their web site's community platform changed from WWE Fan Nation to WWE Universe in October 2008. Not sure if they started pushing that on tv immediately or some time later. Kennel fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Apr 12, 2019 |
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Apr 12, 2019 20:35
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They tried to trademark WWE fan nation, if memory serves, and they failed. I think they were gonna' go with WWE Nation at some point before settling on WWE universe. But Dave's said Vince absolutely loathes the word "fan."
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Apr 12, 2019 23:19
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No no no, Vince hates the fans.
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Apr 12, 2019 23:30
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Calling them the Universe is way better than hearing Cole yell about THE NATION every week.
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Apr 12, 2019 23:30
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It's a stupid loving term because it sounds like you're referring not to the crowd, but to the fiction of WWE.
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Apr 13, 2019 01:40
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Not Tom Magee vs Bret Hart but have Tom Magee vs Riki Choshu in All Japan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI9-gF9xbHg Watch as Tom looks green as hell but does one or two spots that make you go "Maybe he could of been big"
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Apr 13, 2019 03:02
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Bix posted a Magee/Arn match that aired in France over on Deadspin and Magee was absolutely awful at selling, even at selling his own moves as being impactful, but he could definitely be carried by a Hart/Anderson/Choshu level guy. Not that that's saying much, I could probably have a 3 star match with an in-his-prime Bret Hart.
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Apr 13, 2019 21:51
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Not Tom Magee vs Bret Hart but have Tom Magee vs Riki Choshu in All Japan the failed kip up into the fall into the ropes at about 4 minutes is incredible
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Apr 13, 2019 22:14
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Magee always just seems so self conscious about his movements. Selling, running the ropes, etc. It’s like he’s constantly thinking “oh no am I doing this right?” and psyching himself out.
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Apr 13, 2019 22:17
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Blast Fantasto posted:Magee always just seems so self conscious about his movements. Selling, running the ropes, etc. That was the first thing I thought about him when I first watched his matches years back. He's so uncomfortable in the ring.
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Apr 13, 2019 22:21
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Also, some people just never learn timing.
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Apr 14, 2019 01:21
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Gaz-L posted:Not that that's saying much, I could probably have a 3 star match with an in-his-prime Bret Hart. One of the only wrestling dreams I've ever had involved me in a tag match against HBK and HHH, and everything was going great till I realized (even in the dream) that HBK was carrying my dumb rear end to a passable match, and then he got pissed off with me and tagged in HHH to beat my rear end 
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Apr 14, 2019 01:58
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i would never let anyone hurt you.
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Apr 14, 2019 02:07
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His tumble and kip up from the backdrop was pretty great though and I could see how a spot like that in the 80's would make Vince and Baba go crazy, but than when Riki hit the lariat his sell job was like  and I was like that's not how you sell a lariat from Choshu especially if you are kicking out
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Apr 14, 2019 04:41
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Jerusalem posted:One of the only wrestling dreams I've ever had involved me in a tag match against HBK and HHH, and everything was going great till I realized (even in the dream) that HBK was carrying my dumb rear end to a passable match, and then he got pissed off with me and tagged in HHH to beat my rear end I had a very similar one where I was programmed against Christian at Bound for Glory 2006 and I hadn't trained a single day in my life and I was freaking out.
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Apr 14, 2019 06:10
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i had a dream i went on a disney style log flume ride with julius smokes and homicide and it was real fun
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Apr 14, 2019 06:13
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i had a dream i hadn't made it.
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Apr 14, 2019 06:31
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I have a dream sometimes where i'm an xpac or a virgil or whatever. Like, I'm visiting the locker room at a show but there's almost nobody I recognize and they keep trying to kick me out and I have to keep yelling that I wrestled randy savage once and I tagged with scott hall so these guys can't kick me out because I was around in the old days and who'd they ever beat anyway?
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Apr 14, 2019 14:05
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Who's the worst promo in New Japan?
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Cavauro posted:i had a dream i hadn't made it. Don’t worry cavauro. There’s nothing dragging down you now 
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Apr 14, 2019 14:34
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My only wrestling dream was in like 2011 or something. Me, Zack Ryder, and Cody Rhodes were on a like 50 hour roadtrip to Wrestlemania, then when we got there Cody pulled out a gun and shot me and Ryder. The end.
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Apr 14, 2019 14:35
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Low Desert Punk posted:Who's the worst promo in New Japan? Yoshi Hashi?
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forkboy84 posted:Yoshi Hashi? I love tacos promos tbh Each one is like a new Jeff Farmer
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Apr 14, 2019 15:18
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As of a few weeks ago I would've said Michael Elgin but yeah right now it's probably Yoshi-Hashi. I don't think I've ever watched any of his translated backstage comments and remembered anything he said beyond "I lost and I'm going to try harder, even though I'll probably lose a bunch more."
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Apr 14, 2019 16:29
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Low Desert Punk posted:Who's the worst promo in New Japan? DBS? I generally don't mind him as a wrestler and as a part of KES, but very much hate his "silence is golden, duct tape is silver" line because it makes no sense and he always comes off like he's trying to be much cooler than he is in those promos. Elgin would have easily taken #1 if he was still around. His poo poo was always so bland and trying to force that he was this pure babyface who just wanted to win and succeed, but he's a trash person so it was especially grating.
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Apr 14, 2019 16:29
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I would say Tomoaki Honma, only because his voice is so shot that, like watching him wrestling, I have a visceral reaction and have to look away. Otherwise, when DBS Jr. cuts promos with Killer Elite Squad, he does the same shtick as Archer, but with way worse delivery, which is a sign he is a bad promo.
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Apr 14, 2019 17:26
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Saw Jake Atlas for the first time in the Orange Cassidy thing and he was good! What other great stuff from him can I see for free? Also it doesn't matter but it's bothering me not to know: Is he Filipino?
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Apr 14, 2019 18:10
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Nehru the Damaja posted:Saw Jake Atlas for the first time in the Orange Cassidy thing and he was good! What other great stuff from him can I see for free? He also worked a scramble that weekend for ISW if you bought the collective
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quote:Otherwise, when DBS Jr. cuts promos with Killer Elite Squad, he does the same shtick as Archer, but with way worse delivery, which is a sign he is a bad promo. Archer cuts promos like an 80s pissed-off gaijin heel, which works great for his character. Then DBS cuts promos like a generic modern-day heel, which makes him stick out like a sore thumb.
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Apr 14, 2019 21:49
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Davey Boy Smith Jr's promos in MLW have been so weird. They come in the context of these Teddy Hart and Brian Pillman Jr promos that are themselves completely loving weird because the two of them are so completely weird. But then every few weeks DBS shows up and just stands around saying "I love Japan!" like their autistic cousin on vacation. The whole thing is so odd. That being said I've really enjoyed him in the ring in MLW. I haven't really seen much of him since he left WWE and he seems way better.
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Apr 14, 2019 21:52
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Nehru the Damaja posted:Saw Jake Atlas for the first time in the Orange Cassidy thing and he was good! What other great stuff from him can I see for free? He was in a good scramble the first night of Spring Break too. I believe his parents are Mexican http://socaluncensored.com/2018/02/08/jake-atlas-interview/
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Low Desert Punk posted:Who's the worst promo in New Japan? It was Iizuka by default. Now yeah probably DBS Jr.
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STAC Goat posted:Davey Boy Smith Jr's promos in MLW have been so weird. They come in the context of these Teddy Hart and Brian Pillman Jr promos that are themselves completely loving weird because the two of them are so completely weird. But then every few weeks DBS shows up and just stands around saying "I love Japan!" like their autistic cousin on vacation. The whole thing is so odd. dbs was really bad for a while and then once he stopped wearing skintight jeans like his dad on that episode of smackdown and he got a lot better. for real though over the past couple years he really has improved in ring and it coincides with changing his ring gear to tights. maybe the jeans were like training in ultra-gravity for him
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Apr 15, 2019 04:48
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i found it kinda challenging to look at him in the jeans because yeah it REALLY reminded me of his dad when he was a year out from dropping dead
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Apr 15, 2019 07:11
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Does anyone have the Mark Henry fake out retirement thread saved?
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shiksa posted:for real though over the past couple years he really has improved in ring and it coincides with changing his ring gear to tights. maybe the jeans were like training in ultra-gravity for him He wore the jeans (and I think cowboy boots?) at Wrestle Kingdom in January 2018, let’s not pretend like this happened ages ago. Also his social media is a tilting towards “problematic weeaboo” the last few months.
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PUNKS DIET SODA posted:Does anyone have the Mark Henry fake out retirement thread saved? Henry shows up about this point and it only gets better from there.
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Does anyone have that picture of Booker T throughout various video games, where the TNA one is the only one that actually looks like him?
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